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    Project 677: Lada class Submarine

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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:58 pm

    hoom wrote:The fact that there is any news at all, has nothing for a long time.
    Also apparently in March Deputy Minister of Defense said it wouldn't be launched until 2019...

    then they found solutions to problems that hampered launching perhaps

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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  hoom on Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:39 am

    Couple of recent pics


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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  Isos on Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:48 am

    To defend them for the smoke, they have a big country full of trees that need CO2 to grow up lol1
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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:29 am

    Isos wrote:To defend them for the smoke, they have a big country full of trees that need CO2 to grow up lol1

    that's a Stirling engine with external coal heat source lol1 lol1 lol1
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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  GarryB on Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:48 am

    Or is it hot steam from a hydrogen fuel cell?

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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  hoom on Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:01 am

    Or a cold just started diesel...
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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  Hole on Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:55 am

    It´s a diesel Sub, so it´s ok. If a nuclear sub smokes like this… pale
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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  flamming_python on Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:04 pm

    hoom wrote:Or a cold just started diesel...

    Could be, but why would the diesel be off for so long?
    Running on batteries?
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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:20 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Could be, but why would the diesel be off for so long?
    Running on batteries?

    no she's refactoring bio food to imitate sea mammals

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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  Vladimir79 on Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:09 pm

    hoom wrote:Couple of recent pics

    Now that is just embarrassing ... unshaven
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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:11 pm

    no it isn't.

    I guess you have zero experience with diesel during cold snaps?
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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  Isos on Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:26 pm

    It may be related to the AIP and not the engine. Even old kilos don't smoke, why would this thing smoke ?
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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  Hole on Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:24 pm

    Who the f... cares? This is a military vessel. It is still much cleaner than german diesel engines. lol1
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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  Vladimir79 on Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:10 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:no it isn't.

    I guess you have zero experience with diesel during cold snaps?

    It is not exactly cold there this time of year.
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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:36 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    It is not exactly cold there this time of year.  

    it was morning and looks like there's no sun. In St Petersburg now at night can be 10-11 Celsius.

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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  hoom on Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:33 am

    There wasn't a specific date given by the poster @Balancer, he does say North & a 2nd poster said it was July.
    The other pic is St Petersburg Navy Day (I presume) so has apparently transitioned before/since.

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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  dino00 on Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:10 pm

    "Admiralty Shipyards" are planning to sign in 2018 a contract for two more submarines "Lada"

    Submarines of Project 677 belong to the fourth generation of diesel-electric submarines

    More:
    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5585175

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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  hoom on Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:56 pm

    Now thats a surprise Shocked
    Filling out a 6 ship squadron?

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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  Tingsay on Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:09 pm

    Are they with AIP?
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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:22 pm

    hoom wrote:Now thats a surprise Shocked
    Filling out a 6 ship squadron?

    Tartus needs hulls thumbsup  


    Tingsay wrote:Are they with AIP?

    No but 1/3 smaller crew complement and much better specs all round.




    thumbsup And it's in the water:

    Submarine Kronstadt launched

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/112221/



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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  Hole on Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:34 pm

    According to sputnik, which cites the defence ministry, it has some sort of AIP.

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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  hoom on Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:57 pm

    The class was supposed to have AIP but it didn't work right -> as far as I'm aware they're completing without.
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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:12 pm

    The AIP system has undergone and apparently passed bench tests. So they are continuing with the AIP. Are they built on these newer vessels? Dont know. But they are to get them eventually if they are not.

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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  hoom on Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:49 pm

    Couple more pics


    Amazing how the background can affect the impression: 1st pic its clearly new with just-painted sheen
    2nd pic with the yellow setting sun & background of decrepitude it looks rusty, faded & streaky with wonky railing, like its been sitting there since the '90s...
    I had to double take that it wasn't a pic of Alrosa Neutral

    Some of the Russian language reporting talked about 10* Kalibr launchers & there was a cutaway drawing showing a small hump with VLS behind the sail, clearly that isn't actually the case, apparently was an offering for export version.

    Edit: towed array is pretty surprising on such a little sub isn't it?
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    Re: Project 677: Lada class Submarine

    Post  Hole on Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:58 pm

    Maybe the 2 vessels that will be ordered get the VLS.

    First plan was to fit the fifth sub with the AIP system, but at that time the Navy didn´t want a new class of normal diesel subs so the completion of the second (now launched) and third sub was suspended until the AIP system was ready.

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