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    Re: Lada class Submarine: News

    Post  Isos on Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:35 am

    http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/row/rus/677.htm

    Description of all the versions of the lada class.

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    Re: Lada class Submarine: News

    Post  Big_Gazza on Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:38 am

    Isos wrote:http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/row/rus/677.htm

    Description of all the versions of the lada class.

    Hmm... Updated Thursday, September 07, 2000 7:00:00 AM....

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    Re: Lada class Submarine: News

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:54 pm

    SEVERODVINSK, 18 Jul — RIA Novosti. Sea tests AiP (anaerobic) power plant will start in 2016 in the Baltic sea, said Friday the General Director of CDB "Rubin" Igor Vilinet.
    "We have completed a full cycle of ground tests, and preparations are under way for sea trials that are a mandatory step, they will begin in 2016 in the Baltic sea," said Vilinet.
    According to him, anaerobic power plant is modular and can be installed including submarines, currently under construction.


    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20151218/1344206228.html#ixzz3ugURCNB5


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    Re: Lada class Submarine: News

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:16 pm

    Currently, the "Admiralty shipyards" built two diesel-electric submarines of project "Lada" - "Kronstadt" and "Velikiye Luki". Delivery of these submarines will happen in a timely manner, said General Director of CDB Rubin Igor Vilinet.


    At the present time in the interests of the Russian Navy at Admiralty shipyards built two diesel submarines of project "Lada" — "Kronstadt" and "Great Luke".
    "The terms of construction are on schedule and the delivery of these submarines will happen in a timely manner," said Vilinet journalists.
    He added that the third submarine of the Lada project is now at the Contracting stage.
    In November, Navy commander Admiral Viktor Chirkov said that the diesel submarines of project 677 "Lada" will have significantly improved characteristics.


    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20151218/1344222115.html#ixzz3ugZWDaoo


    and from other article:

    "Similarly, for non-nuclear fleet is now under-construction project "Lada", and the next a certain number of ships with improved properties will be based on, for example, the project "Lada", — said Vilinet.

    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20151218/1344226132.html#ixzz3uga0O95M

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    Re: Lada class Submarine: News

    Post  GarryB on Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:13 am

    AFAIK the first sub wont enter service and will be used as a testing sub for new technologies.

    The second and third will incorporate new technologies and improved systems based on experience with the first vessel and the fourth new build will have a few other brand new technologies like their new design AIP system as standard and likely a few other all Russian technologies.


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    Sea tests AiP (anaerobic) power plant will start in 2016 in the Baltic sea, said Friday the General Director of CDB "Rubin" Igor Vilinet.

    Post  GarryB on Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:18 am

    I have read that there were plans to fit AIP to the second and third Lada class subs to improve their performance.

    The fourth Lada... Lada-M would have AIP as standard AFAIK.

    Of course if they have problems in testing that might not happen to plan.. Smile


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    Re: Lada class Submarine: News

    Post  Isos on Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:19 pm

    Why don't they ask AIP to the chinese ? They always give the best russian stuff (S-400, Su-35, engines ...) so they could give AIP. I have read that russian AIP is not ready and that is the cause why lada is not ready too.

    Maybe I'm wrong. If chinese have AIP thanks to spying, russian should have it too. They are better in spying especially germans and sweden who are leaders in AIP.




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    Re: Lada class Submarine: News

    Post  GarryB on Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:52 am

    The chinese AIP is a sterling engine... basically an internal combustion engine that uses liquid oxygen to run in a lo or no oxygen environment.

    the Russian AIP is superior in that it does not need a supply of oxygen which is not a safe material to have on any vessel due to risk of fire or explosion.

    the Russian AIP runs on diesel which means every port on the planet that is equipped to fuel ships already has the infrastructure to support the Russian AIP.



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    Re: Lada class Submarine: News

    Post  max steel on Sat Jan 02, 2016 6:24 pm

    Sea Ghost: New Russian Submarine is Stealthier Than a 'Black Hole'

    Russia’s newest silent submarine is even stealthier than its sneaky predecessor. The stealth capabilities of Russia’s new Lada-class diesel-electric submarines far exceed those of their predecessors, Admiraty Shipyard’s CEO Alexander Buzakov told the Russian press.

    According to Buzakov, the new vessels are even stealthier than Russian Kilo-class submarines, thought to be one of the quietest diesel-electric submarine classes in the world and dubbed "black holes" for their ability to "disappear” from sonars.

    The new submarines are able to maintain such a low profile thanks to a clever implementation of a next-generation anti-reflective acoustic coating and a new improved hydro-acoustic system, Buzakov said. He also added that during the new submarines’ construction and design process, the development team managed to gather a lot of valuable data which, among other things, allowed them to significantly improve the Kilo-class submarines as well.

    The Lada-class submarines are designed to defend coastlines against ships and other submarines, gather intelligence, provide surveillance and reconnaissance missions, and act as a mother ship for special forces. With its new air-independent propulsion plant, a Lada submarine can remain submerged for as many as 25 days. With its vast array of weapon systems, the Lada is also world’s first non-nuclear submarine to be equipped with specialized launchers for cruise missiles.




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    Re: Lada class Submarine: News

    Post  George1 on Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:01 pm

    Source: Navy will receive two new submarines of "Lada" in 2019

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    Re: Lada class Submarine: News

    Post  Austin on Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:33 am

    Russian Navy: noise submarines type "Lada" is 10 times lower than that of the project 636 submarines

    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2592426

    MOSCOW, Jan. 16. / TASS /. Noise of non-nuclear submarines of the fourth generation of "Lada" (Project 677) is reduced by 10 times compared to their predecessors 636 project. This is the radio "Russian news service," said the head of the Russian Navy ship captain Vladimir rag-pickers.

    "There adequately designed submarine 677 project" Harmony ". She is now undergoing trial operation in the Northern Fleet. Any questions, but when they are closed, finished trial operation, adjusted the working design documentation, the operating instructions - this is a serious underwater boat, which will have the noise level is lower than the currently possess submarines 636 project ", - he said the rag-pickers, speaking of the head submarine" Saint Petersburg ". "And now we are building in parallel two other submarines of this project. This is the" Great Luke "and" Kronstadt ", which are constructed taking into account those comments, which are revealed in the trial operation of the head of the boat," - said the representative of the fleet. show more

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    Re: Lada class Submarine: News

    Post  George1 on Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:26 pm

    This projects ends

    Russia Scraps Plans of Additional Project 677 Submarines Construction

    The Russian Navy decided not to build Lada-class diesel-electric submarines (Project 677) since the funding will be spent on Kalina-class ships, a senior Russian Navy’s official said Tuesday.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Construction of the Sankt Peterburg, the lead ship of the Project 677, began in December 1997. It was introduced into the Navy for trial operations in April 2010. Two other ships of the class have already been laid down.

    "The Navy has decided to complete the construction of two Lada-class boats and stop the work on the project. All three boats of this project will join the Baltic Fleet. Funding will be directed to the Kalina project," the official told RIA Novosti.

    He added that a Russian design bureau, Rubin, was working on the project of the submarines equipped with anaerobic (air-independent) power units, dubbed Kalina-class. Their construction is expected to be launched after 2020.

    Air-independent, closed cycle submarines, which usually use hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells, are quieter than conventional diesel-electric boats and do not have to surface or use snorkel tubes to breathe air, thereby exposing themselves to detection by radar and other sensors.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160119/1033354924/russia-plans-additional-submarines-construction.html#ixzz3xhUHEOwm


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    Re: Lada class Submarine: News

    Post  JohninMK on Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:26 pm

    Looks like a really good move by the Navy, investing in the next generation.

    On the other hand, on the other side of the country we have more of the "10 times noisier" sub

    MOSCOW, January 16. /TASS/. A series of six conventional submarines (project 636) will be built for the Pacific Fleet, Chief of the Russian Navy's shipbuilding management department Captain 1st Rank Vladimir Tryapichnikov said on Saturday, aired by the Russian News Service radio station . "In the perspective the Navy is making attempts and, evidently, they should find a confirmation in construction of another six submarines (project 636), which would go to the Pacific Fleet," he said.

    More: http://tass.ru/en/defense/850127


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    Re: Lada class Submarine: News

    Post  andalusia on Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:14 pm

    This is an interesting read:

    http://nextbigfuture.com/2016/01/usa-is-not-buying-cheaper-and-deadlier.html

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    Re: Lada class Submarine: News

    Post  max steel on Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:48 pm

    Construction of Last Lada-Class Submarines to Be Completed in 2018-2019

    The two last Lada-class diesel-electric submarines (Project 677) will be constructed in 2019, an official representative of Russia's United Shipbuilding Corporation said Friday."The two Lada-class Project 677 submarines will be delivered as scheduled — in 2018 and 2019," the spokesman told RIA Novosti.

    Then the construction of the new non-nuclear Kalina-class submarines will be launched," he added.Air-independent, closed cycle submarines, which usually use hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells, are quieter than conventional diesel-electric boats and do not have to surface or use snorkel tubes to breathe air, thereby exposing themselves to detection by radar and other sensors.


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    Re: Lada class Submarine: News

    Post  George1 on Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:18 pm

    USC: Τrial operations of the parent of submarines "Lada" will end in 2016

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    Re: Lada class Submarine: News

    Post  zg18 on Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:52 pm

    "Lada" class sub U/C, May 31st, Admiralty shipyards St. Petesburg


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    Re: Lada class Submarine: News

    Post  Austin on Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:13 pm

    http://aviationweek.com/awin/new-submarines-use-advanced-technology-improve-performance

    Russia's Project 636 SSK, called Kilo in the West, set standards in the Cold War, but its designer—St. Petersburg-based CDB Rubin—is now playing catch-up after years of underinvestment. Rubin's general director, Andrey Dyachkov, tells DTI that the company is completing bench-testing of a prototype AIP system.

    The system is a hydrogen fuel cell, as used by TKMS-HDW, but instead of operating on stored hydrogen, it relies on chemical re- formation of the sub's diesel fuel, which eliminates special on-board tankage and hydrogen infrastructure on shore. According to Dyachkov, this technology has already been validated during AIP bench tests. “This allows us to use the standard diesel fuel and doesn't require complex ground support” compared to the German variant, he explained.

    Rubin plans to install AIP in the Amur 1650, offered for the Indian navy's tender for six conventional submarines. An export version of Russia's Project 677 Lada class, Amur has a surface displacement of 1,765 metric tons, submerged speed of 19 kt. and a crew of 35. It is designed to strike both sea-based and fixed land-based targets. The 66-meter (217-ft.) boat carries six torpedo tubes and Klub-S (SS-N-27) missiles in 10 vertical launchers that can be fired in salvos. For the Indian tender it also will be equipped with Russo-Indian PJ-10 BrahMos supersonic missiles fired from the same launchers.

    The AIP can be installed in the Amur 1650 in a separate module along with the conventional diesel-electric propulsion system. Using the AIP, the sub's endurance can increase by two or three more weeks from 45 days currently, based on a customer's request. Continuous submerged time increases from the current nine days to 14-20 days.

    The first Project 677 boat, the St. Petersburg, is undergoing reliability testing with the Russian navy in the Baltic Sea. In 2012, it is expected to complete the testing of its sonar system, says Dyachkov. The Admiralty Shipyards in St. Petersburg are constructing two more, the Kronstadt and Sevastopol, but so far there are no funds for completing these with AIP.

    Rubin plans to further increase Amur 1650 endurance by replacing lead-acid batteries with lithium-ion (Li-Ion) batteries. The designers do not report about their progress in this field, but say that lithium-ion batteries will be able to increase the sub's submerged endurance and distance by 50% at low noise patrol speed and threefold at full speed. Unlike the AIP, which is only compatible with the Amur, the new batteries can also be offered for Rubin's Project 636 Kilo boats.

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    Re: Lada class Submarine: News

    Post  George1 on Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:19 am

    Operational evaluation of Russia's Lada-class lead submarine meets expectations

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    http://tass.com/defense/902924?_ga=1.55244651.1337049799.1447427261


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    Re: Lada class Submarine: News

    Post  zg18 on Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:08 pm

    Lada class "Sankt Peterburg" test launches cruise missiles in Barents sea


    http://militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=432821

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