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    Post  Werewolf on Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:13 pm

    George1 wrote:

    we do it sometimes


    Make it a new year suprise.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:54 am

    Yeah... of course acting like a dick and murdering Turkish pilots will of course solve everything... NOT.

    Turkey is no more an enemy than it was 5 months ago... it is still a US stooge and still part of NATO a group it is now hiding behind.

    There was some potential for cooperation in a range of mutually beneficial areas that would quite frankly have benefited Turkey rather more than it would have benefited Russia, but that benefit is clearly not so important to turkey as protecting its illegal smuggling of ISIS oil.

    The amusing thing is that I really thought controlling gas deliveries to the EU would actually have given turkey some real leverage and might have led to their inclusion in that grouping but then if they have not been allowed in by now they would likely never have been...
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    Post  macedonian on Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:20 pm

    GarryB wrote:Yeah... of course acting like a dick and murdering Turkish pilots will of course solve everything... NOT.

    Turkey is no more an enemy than it was 5 months ago... it is still a US stooge and still part of NATO a group it is now hiding behind.

    There was some potential for cooperation in a range of mutually beneficial areas that would quite frankly have benefited Turkey rather more than it would have benefited Russia, but that benefit is clearly not so important to turkey as protecting its illegal smuggling of ISIS oil.

    The amusing thing is that I really thought controlling gas deliveries to the EU would actually have given turkey some real leverage and might have led to their inclusion in that grouping but then if they have not been allowed in by now they would likely never have been...

    I'm accusing you of having logical, non-emotional posts on this forum GarryB! That's it! I thought it was verboten?
    (though I really dislike Turks atm...but you all know that)
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:38 am

    Yes... I am half Vulcan...

    An eye for an eye and all that left is blind people... a slow painful starvation...

    Russia will not benefit from revenge, what Russia needs is justice... but they can't get that because the US and the west will protect their little stooge, so in terms of punishment all they can hope for is to inflict a little economic pain and at the same time sever ties that Turkey could use in the future to harm Russia.

    There is no point going into business with a partner that will turn on you when it suits their interests... there are plenty of other countries that have shown interest in being a partner to Russia and will not stab Russia in the back at the first opportunity... and don't have strong ties to groups that are unfriendly to Russia.

    (though I really dislike Turks atm...but you all know that)

    We have more than one Turkish member on this forum... and so far they have remained respectfully quiet on the matter... of course we do have one new member who tried to put his view across too... you don't have to agree with what they all have to say but I think it is useful to hear it... abusing each other and we have a fight... and how do you win an internet fight... I can because I am a mod, but I don't choose to take part in such meaningless fights... communication should be about resolutions... of course I am only human and can find myself in discussions that are combative rather than instructional...


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    Post  PeterSwe on Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:06 pm

    GarryB wrote:Yes... I am half Vulcan...

    An eye for an eye and all that left is blind people... a slow painful starvation...

    Russia will not benefit from revenge, what Russia needs is justice... but they can't get that because the US and the west will protect their little stooge, so in terms of punishment all they can hope for is to inflict a little economic pain and at the same time sever ties that Turkey could use in the future to harm Russia.

    There is no point going into business with a partner that will turn on you when it suits their interests... there are plenty of other countries that have shown interest in being a partner to Russia and will not stab Russia in the back at the first opportunity... and don't have strong ties to groups that are unfriendly to Russia.

    (though I really dislike Turks atm...but you all know that)

    We have more than one Turkish member on this forum... and so far they have remained respectfully quiet on the matter... of course we do have one new member who tried to put his view across too... you don't have to agree with what they all have to say but I think it is useful to hear it... abusing each other and we have a fight... and how do you win an internet fight... I can because I am a mod, but I don't choose to take part in such meaningless fights... communication should be about resolutions... of course I am only human and can find myself in discussions that are combative rather than instructional...

    Turkey has never been friend of Russia. When communists slaughtered russians turks help the communists with the genocide. West has been a supporter of Turkey wich history is only genocide on native christians that have nearly been exterminated in this they call Turkey, this has been done and encouraged from USA mainly but England and Germany have strongly contributed. But now Russia have shown that it will answer with very strong military force that can cause serious damage to Turkey and USA=NATO have shown that its not willing to die for Turkey. Turkey have done a big misstake by the terrorist attack and murder of russian pilot. The severe economical consequenses will be very hard for Turkey, and now Turkey knows that it will suffer a lot more if they attack russians.
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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:26 am



    I would include the Anglo buffoons from Australia, New Zealand, Republic of South Africa, Canada.
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    Post  George1 on Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:57 pm

    According to Vedomosti, 72% of respondents believe that the United States of America is most hostile to the Russian Federation. Ukraine was ranked second (48%, in 2015 - 37%). The third most hostile country is Turkey: the figure has grown from one percent in 2015 to 29 percent in 2016.

    http://www.pravdareport.com/news/russia/politics/02-06-2016/134606-russians_enemy-0/#sthash.MhoLsJoa.dpuf
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    Re: Russia's enemy countries

    Post  berhoum on Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:51 pm

    NATO: a German battalion spreads in Lithuania



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    Post  andalusia on Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:46 am

    Let's be honest, the United States of America is an sworn enemy of Russia.  I live here in the United States and I know it is the truth.  This author makes a very valid point: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/09/06/dear-russia-enemy-not-partner/
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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:29 am


    Odin of Ossetia wrote:

    I would include the Anglo buffoons from Australia, New Zealand, Republic of South Africa, Canada.


    And the U.K. of course.

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    Re: Russia's enemy countries

    Post  Project Canada on Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:45 am



    G7 countries might introduce new sanctions against Russia due to situation in Donbass

    OTTAWA, April 24. /TASS/. The Group of Seven (G7) countries might impose new sanctions against the Russian Federation because of the situation in Donbass, according to the joint statement issued on Monday by the foreign ministers of these states and High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Federica Mogherini, distributed by the Canadian Foreign Ministry.

    "Given Russia’s responsibility in the conflict, we urge Russia to stabilize the security situation in the Donbass without delay. We recall that the duration of Donbass-related economic sanctions is clearly linked to Russia’s complete and irreversible implementation of the Minsk Agreements. These sanctions can be rolled back only if Russia truly fulfills its commitments, but we also stand ready to take further restrictive measures should Russia’s actions so require," the statement said.

    According to the statement, the G7 countries "reiterate our enduring support for Ukrainian sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity within its internationally recognized borders. This includes our non-recognition of Russia’s violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity. We decry the degraded human rights situation in the peninsula, and the violations and abuses committed against its population by Russia in Crimea."

    At the same time, the countries, "fully support the efforts within the Normandy format and of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe for a solution to the conflict in eastern Ukraine. We are convinced that the only way a sustainable solution to the conflict can be reached is through the full implementation of the Minsk agreements."

    G7 countries accused Russia of destabilizing the situation in the world, however expressed their readiness for cooperation with Moscow, according to the joint statement.

    "We are committed to protecting and promoting the rules-based international system. This stands against the background of a pattern of irresponsible and destabilizing Russian behavior, including interference in countries’ democratic systems," the statement said.

    According to the statement, the G7 countries "call on Russia to cease this behaviour, which is highly detrimental to prospects for constructive cooperation." "We urge Russia to live up to its international obligations, as well as its responsibilities as a permanent member of the UN Security Council (UNSC), to uphold international peace and security. Notwithstanding, we will continue to engage with Russia on addressing regional crises and global challenges," the statement said.

    The meeting of foreign ministers of the G7 countries was held in Toronto, Canada, on April 22-23. A meeting of G7 foreign and security ministers is held on April 23-24. Canada holds the G7 Presidency from January 1 to December 31, 2018.

    http://tass.com/world/1001390

    NATO will stop at nothing until it breaks Russia completely apart Cool But instead of answering NATO with a strong response, Russia restrains itself and continue to hope for Better relations with nations whose ultimate goal is Russia's total destruction Laughing
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    Re: Russia's enemy countries

    Post  kvs on Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:41 pm

    @Project Canada

    Actually you are wrong. By keeping to a low key response Russia avoids having the world attention focused on it as
    the belligerent. Any noise from Russia will be propagandized as aggression by both the western media and its
    sycophant chorus in the rest of the world. Russia's "timid" behaviour is the worst thing for NATO. Reagan
    used to say that it takes two to dance. Well, Russia ain't dancin'.

    Meanwhile Russia is bolstering itself both economically and militarily. It is not "waiting to be friends again" as you
    claim. It just does not need any idiotic and self-defeating behaviour such as Khruschev's shoe pounding of the
    UN podium.
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    Post  flamming_python on Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:40 pm

    Project Canada wrote:

    G7 countries might introduce new sanctions against Russia due to situation in Donbass

    OTTAWA, April 24. /TASS/. The Group of Seven (G7) countries might impose new sanctions against the Russian Federation because of the situation in Donbass, according to the joint statement issued on Monday by the foreign ministers of these states and High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Federica Mogherini, distributed by the Canadian Foreign Ministry.

    "Given Russia’s responsibility in the conflict, we urge Russia to stabilize the security situation in the Donbass without delay. We recall that the duration of Donbass-related economic sanctions is clearly linked to Russia’s complete and irreversible implementation of the Minsk Agreements. These sanctions can be rolled back only if Russia truly fulfills its commitments, but we also stand ready to take further restrictive measures should Russia’s actions so require," the statement said.

    According to the statement, the G7 countries "reiterate our enduring support for Ukrainian sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity within its internationally recognized borders. This includes our non-recognition of Russia’s violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity. We decry the degraded human rights situation in the peninsula, and the violations and abuses committed against its population by Russia in Crimea."

    At the same time, the countries, "fully support the efforts within the Normandy format and of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe for a solution to the conflict in eastern Ukraine. We are convinced that the only way a sustainable solution to the conflict can be reached is through the full implementation of the Minsk agreements."

    G7 countries accused Russia of destabilizing the situation in the world, however expressed their readiness for cooperation with Moscow, according to the joint statement.

    "We are committed to protecting and promoting the rules-based international system. This stands against the background of a pattern of irresponsible and destabilizing Russian behavior, including interference in countries’ democratic systems," the statement said.

    According to the statement, the G7 countries "call on Russia to cease this behaviour, which is highly detrimental to prospects for constructive cooperation." "We urge Russia to live up to its international obligations, as well as its responsibilities as a permanent member of the UN Security Council (UNSC), to uphold international peace and security. Notwithstanding, we will continue to engage with Russia on addressing regional crises and global challenges," the statement said.

    The meeting of foreign ministers of the G7 countries was held in Toronto, Canada, on April 22-23. A meeting of G7 foreign and security ministers is held on April 23-24. Canada holds the G7 Presidency from January 1 to December 31, 2018.

    http://tass.com/world/1001390

    NATO will stop at nothing until it breaks Russia completely apart  Cool  But instead of answering NATO with a strong response, Russia restrains itself and continue to hope for Better relations with nations whose ultimate goal is Russia's total destruction  Laughing

    Just look at my post no. 281 on the previous page.

    I made it 2 1/2 years ago, but it's almost prophetic.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:11 pm

    I agree with KVS - let the dogs bark.

    All this will do is keep on pushing Russia to a strong Autarky, and enforcing itself and it's interests, while ignoring the retards. G7 is full orlf useless dolts who think they rule the world. Too bad for them.

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    Post  GarryB on Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:26 am

    Actually I don't think Russia should not be pushing back, but not via their economy.

    How hard would it be to take the new anti ship mach 10, 2,000km range MiG-31 launched Kinzhal and fit it with a tactical nuclear warhead.

    The cold war is over, but I think the west didn't pay attention... the logistics of the Soviet Army could never have supported an invasion to the English Channel... or as it would be named after the Soviet attack... Stalins back passage...

    They weren't going to invade Europe... they were going to eliminate an enemy threat... and it was going to be fought from eastern europe...

    Obviously with nuclear weapons there would be enormous casualties, but this time on both sides... the UK and US combined in both theatres of the war lost maybe a million soldiers... less than a 10th of what germany or the Soviets each lost in a war that only happened because the british and french and americans wanted to destroy germany after WWI.

    Now they can make it clear to the west... 100% guarantee there will be no invasion of Europe, and there will be no invasion of the US.

    With the new Breeder reactors they should be able to massively build up the numbers of tactical and strategic nuclear weapons... they wont invade the west if there is a problem... they will destroy it.

    Putin has been passing on messages but the media are retards who don't pass the message on so the western public does not know that the unique situation in Kosovo that allowed the west to give them some Serbian land led directly to the Russians giving South Ossetia and Abkhazia full autonomy, which led directly to opening Russian borders to both states... they no longer depended on Georgia for survival and that is the real reason Sackofshit invaded.

    These new hypersonic missiles, nuclear powered cruise missiles, nuclear torpedo drones, uninterceptable ICBM RVs, and laser defence systems were all a response to the US withdrawing from the ABM treaty... but no one mentioned it in the west... just evil aggressive Russia....

    Russia should make some serious demands... in fact if the US wants a new START treaty it needs to pull all its military forces out of western and eastern europe.... Russia did that in the 1990s.. if the US wants peace it can do the same. US nuclear warheads and ABM systems need to be removed from Europe too... otherwise Russia will make lots of ICBMs and tactical nukes to deal with them...
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    Post  Nibiru on Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:18 pm

    'Peace of Mind': Latvian MP Wants Russia to Fall Apart?



    Almost three decades after the Soviet Union’s breakup, some politicians in Latvia still see Russia as an enemy.

    Russia should be carved up into several parts to give Latvia and the rest of Europe “peace of mind,” Latvian MP Aleksandrs Kirsteins wrote on his Twitter account.

    “Only when Russia breaks up into small countries along ethnic lines, will military conflicts finally end and Europe will live a peaceful life for years to come,” Kirsteins wrote in a tweeted comment to an extremist take on the Soviet anthem by the late Russian author Vladimir Voinovich.

    ​Vladimir Voinovich, who penned “The Life and Extraordinary Adventures of Private Ivan Chonkin” trilogy, “Moscow 2024” and “A Portrait Against the Background of a Myth,” died of a heart attack on Friday night. He was 85.

    Anti-Russian slogans are frequent in the Baltic States since they regained their independence in the wake of the USSR’s dissolution in 1991.
    In recent years, Baltic governments have made efforts to "squeeze out" the Russian language and, in some cases, Russian speakers themselves.

    In Latvia, for example, a law has recently been passed transferring all minority secondary schools to education in Latvian only.

    Some local politicians still believe that the current cool in relations with Russia is detrimental to their countries’ well-being.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:42 am

    Well one idiots opinion is not enough to get excited about, but certainly stopping all trade with the country should be an option they should be looking at.

    The american companies make a lot of money making Russia the bad guy so I can understand a financial reason to need a big bad bogey many to keep spending money on weapons instead of schools or hospitals, but the Baltic states really don't have an excuse.

    Perhaps leaking maps showing general locations of tactical nuclear weapons locations all along the border with those Baltic states might tone down their aggressive rhetoric... their range and power... and expected results within the first ten minutes of a NATO defensive operation to halt Russian aggression might sober them up a bit...
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    Post  Regular on Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:41 pm

    Well maybe one day Russia federation will collapse on itself and... Empire will be born. Tsar protects!
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    Post  Aristide on Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:36 am

    GarryB wrote:Actually I don't think Russia should not be pushing back, but not via their economy.

    How hard would it be to take the new anti ship mach 10, 2,000km range MiG-31 launched Kinzhal and fit it with a tactical nuclear warhead.

    The cold war is over, but I think the west didn't pay attention... the logistics of the Soviet Army could never have supported an invasion to the English Channel... or as it would be named after the Soviet attack... Stalins back passage...

    They weren't going to invade Europe... they were going to eliminate an enemy threat... and it was going to be fought from eastern europe...

    Obviously with nuclear weapons there would be enormous casualties, but this time on both sides... the UK and US combined in both theatres of the war lost maybe a million soldiers... less than a 10th of what germany or the Soviets each lost in a war that only happened because the british and french and americans wanted to destroy germany after WWI.

    Now they can make it clear to the west... 100% guarantee there will be no invasion of Europe, and there will be no invasion of the US.

    With the new Breeder reactors they should be able to massively build up the numbers of tactical and strategic nuclear weapons... they wont invade the west if there is a problem... they will destroy it.

    Putin has been passing on messages but the media are retards who don't pass the message on so the western public does not know that the unique situation in Kosovo that allowed the west to give them some Serbian land led directly to the Russians giving South Ossetia and Abkhazia full autonomy, which led directly to opening Russian borders to both states... they no longer depended on Georgia for survival and that is the real reason Sackofshit invaded.

    These new hypersonic missiles, nuclear powered cruise missiles, nuclear torpedo drones, uninterceptable ICBM RVs, and laser defence systems were all a response to the US withdrawing from the ABM treaty... but no one mentioned it in the west... just evil aggressive Russia....

    Russia should make some serious demands... in fact if the US wants a new START treaty it needs to pull all its military forces out of western and eastern europe.... Russia did that in the 1990s.. if the US wants peace it can do the same. US nuclear warheads and ABM systems need to be removed from Europe too... otherwise Russia will make lots of ICBMs and tactical nukes to deal with them...

    Your post makes no sense. nuclear war heads and ABM systems need to be removed from Europe? Since when has Russia or USa a say about the french nuclear weapons?

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but France will not give up its nuclear arsenal.
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    Post  Nibiru on Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:00 am

    Russia is under intensified economic, political and cultural attacks and by the looks of it NATO is determined to push forward until Russia is completely destroyed, this time for real.

    * Economic sanctions
    * Accusation of election meddling in US, Europe, Mexico, etc
    * Accusation of political assassination (skripal), chemical massacre (syria), supporting terrorists (taliban)
    * Accusation of sonic attacks (cuba, china)
    * Getting banned from international sports
    * Space program sabotage
    * Dismemberment of Russian church (ukraine)
    * Demonization of Russia and Russians

    I'm sure there is more to add in this list, but its absolutely clear that NATO is working double time to bring Russia to its knees, perhaps they are beginning to realize that the fall of the Soviet Union is an unfinished job since Russia is still capable of thwarting US/NATO attempts to impose their will across the world, Now NATO has decided to Finish the job once and for all. Tremendous pressure is being piled on Russia, how will this play out? Sanctions continue and will only increase in intensity, I dont see any reversal of this economic attack against Russia, Putin and his government needs to come up with a decisive solution out of this quagmire.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:40 am

    Nibiru wrote:Russia is under intensified economic, political and cultural attacks and by the looks of it NATO is determined to push forward until Russia is completely destroyed, this time for real.

    * Economic sanctions
    * Accusation of election meddling in US, Europe, Mexico, etc
    * Accusation of political assassination (skripal), chemical massacre (syria), supporting terrorists (taliban)
    * Accusation of sonic attacks (cuba, china)
    * Getting banned from international sports
    * Space program sabotage
    * Dismemberment of Russian church (ukraine)
    * Demonization of Russia and Russians

    I'm sure there is more to add in this list, but its absolutely clear that NATO is working double time to bring Russia to its knees, perhaps they are beginning to realize that the fall of the Soviet Union is an unfinished job since Russia is still capable of thwarting US/NATO attempts to impose their will across the world, Now NATO has decided to Finish the job once and for all. Tremendous pressure is being piled on Russia, how will this play out? Sanctions continue and will only increase in intensity, I dont see any reversal of this economic attack against Russia, Putin and his government needs to come up with a decisive solution out of this quagmire.

    I would say, their attacks are pretty useless and stupid.

    Results?

    Russia's economy is growing
    Russia's exports are growing
    Diversification of Russia's economy has intensified
    Increase in trade with Asia
    More investments within Russia and Russia's diversifying investments outside
    More Russians returning home and more Russian's parking their money at home
    More foreigners coming to Russia for tourism so they spend their money in Russia

    US is shooting itself in the foot. Same with NATO. NATO doesn't even constitute 1/3 of the world. If they want to burn their bridges, let them. Russia doesn't need to do anything more special than they are doing now. Other than just keep jabbing at US and be a thorn in their behind. Like Iran does.

    If they want to go to war with Russia, since it is their only option left, let them. It just wont work out how they want it to.
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:18 am

    Your post makes no sense. nuclear war heads and ABM systems need to be removed from Europe?

    During the cold war there were Soviet nukes in eastern europe and there were US and UK and French nukes in western europe.

    When the cold war ended the Soviet forces withdrew, but instead of withdrawing US forces, they have moved closer to Russia.

    If the US wants an arms control treaty to replace new Start then they need to first withdraw from Europe the same way the Soviets did, and they also need to withdraw their nuclear weapons the way the Soviets did.

    All of the Warsaw Pact and some Soviet states have joined NATO, yet Russia is the aggressor?

    Why should Russia agree to nuclear weapons parity with the US when NATO is on Russian borders with no limits on nuclear weapons?

    Obviously the US and NATO will never agree, so the solution for Russia is to start making short range and medium range nuclear weapons especially to deal with NATO troops in europe.

    It is important to make it clear this is not about invasion or occupation... it is about self defence.

    Any threat from the EU or NATO, or just Europe in general will result in the massive launch of tens of thousands of nuclear weapons to eliminate the threat.

    Having fast neutron reactors building up nuclear weapons stocks should be very easy and relatively quick.

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but France will not give up its nuclear arsenal.

    I don't expect you to. But French numbers will count with American and British weapon numbers.

    I dont see any reversal of this economic attack against Russia, Putin and his government needs to come up with a decisive solution out of this quagmire.

    Eliminate all trade with the west and start looking elsewhere for trade partners...

    Loss of trade with the US is not really a big deal, which is why they are so keen on it. Loss of trade with the EU was more painful for the EU and Russia because it involved much larger dollar amounts... but it seems that Russia has survived, and the EU has not been hurt so much they actually want to disobey their masters in washington.

    Growing trade with BRICS and other nations as well who are keen to deal with countries that are not the US will be good for Russia and for the countries they trade with.
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    Post  Nibiru on Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:22 pm


    US warship challenges Russia claims in Sea of Japan

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    Two U.S. Marine Aircraft Crash in Sea Off Japan

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-05/u-s-marine-f-a-18-kc-130-crash-in-sea-off-japan

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