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    George1

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    Tactical Nuclear Weapons

    Post  George1 on Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:01 am

    Does anyone has details for nuclear bombs analogous to B-61 us bomb? And from which aircraft are carried?


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    Re: Tactical Nuclear Weapons

    Post  GarryB on Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:49 am

    Info on Russian tactical nuclear bombs is pretty sparse, and would be associated with the Su-24, Su-34, and Tu-22M3 aircraft.

    Tu-95MS and Tu-160 are pretty much cruise missile carriers, though they are getting conventional guided weapon capability, I rather doubt they would carry nuclear free fall bombs on any missions.
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    Re: Tactical Nuclear Weapons

    Post  coolieno99 on Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:23 pm

    The largest nuclear gravity bomb tested (Oct. 30, 1961) by RuAF was the Tsar Bomba (yield = 50 MT). It was air-dropped by a specially modified Tu-95 bomber.  The shock wave from the blast traveled around the world 3 times. Because of its huge size (27 ton), it was more of a "political" weapon than a practical military weapon.



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    Re: Tactical Nuclear Weapons

    Post  GarryB on Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:17 am

    Found a few pics of Russian nuclear bombs... no detail though... cry



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    Re: Tactical Nuclear Weapons

    Post  George1 on Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:42 am

    i think they are in a museum Smile
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    Re: Tactical Nuclear Weapons

    Post  GarryB on Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:49 am

    That is correct...

    Museums and line drawings are your most likely result when asking about secret stuff like nuclear weapons.

    Just looking that them the large M54 shaped bombs in the background will be for internal carriage, while the more aerodynamic silver weapons look like they are based on the later M62 design for external carriage and have been aerodynamics.
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    Re: Tactical Nuclear Weapons

    Post  George1 on Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:07 pm

    If i understand correctly FAB series bombs will be used with nuclear charge?
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    Re: Tactical Nuclear Weapons

    Post  GarryB on Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:54 pm

    Not as far as I know.

    FABs are explosive (F) aerial (A) bombs (B), and come in a range of sizes and uses.

    Tactical nuclear bombs might look similar externally but would not be based on existing types.

    The main types of FAB are the M54 and M62 and come in a range of weights and payloads, but basically the M54s are stubby compact designs designed for internal carriage in bomber aircraft and high drag, so when dropped they decelerate rapidly and are less likely to explode directly below a low flying plane.

    The M62 designs are much more aerodynamic and are designed for external carriage on fighter bombers.

    Tactical nukes also come in a range of sizes for bomb bay use and for tactical use.

    To carry tactical nukes extra electronics and systems are required and it is known that Su-24, and Mig-29 aircraft were wired to carry such weapons as export models of those aircraft are fitted for but not with the extra equipment needed. It is therefore rather likely that the Su-27 was also similarly equipped, and the Su-34 will definitely be equipped to use TNs.

    Ironically the Tu-16 was designed to use very old very large nukes and because of this was used in Afghanistan because it could carry the FAB-9000.
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    FOAB as missile warhead

    Post  The-thing-next-door on Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:20 pm

    The INF treaty prohibits building tactical missiles with more range than 500km but says nothing about warhead size so wyh not make a heavy tactical missile with somehing like the FOAB to destroy tows,airfields,factories and other things in 1 hit without people whining about "the Russians used a nuke on these people who only wanted freedom (freedom to succumb to western)"
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    Re: Tactical Nuclear Weapons

    Post  kvs on Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:59 pm

    The-thing-next-door wrote:The INF treaty prohibits building tactical missiles with more range than 500km but says nothing about warhead size so wyh not make a heavy tactical missile with somehing like the FOAB to destroy tows,airfields,factories and other things in 1 hit without people whining about "the Russians used a nuke on these people who only wanted freedom (freedom to succumb to western)"

    It's not a bad idea, but even FOABs cannot compete with nukes for damage induced. Sometimes by listening to the "conventional warhead"
    drivel from Washington (e.g. prompt global strike) one would get the impression that all that matters is precision. BS. The blast energy
    matters more. Conventional warheads require many more missiles to do the same level of damage. During a modern rocket war, every advantage
    counts.
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    Re: Tactical Nuclear Weapons

    Post  Big_Gazza on Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:13 am

    ..or a HGV that acts as a carrier for a FOAB. Its a ~7T weapon however, so you'd need an ICBM with a 10T throw-weight. Global Strike on steroids...

    Now, what new Russian liquid-fuelled ICBM is being developed that could potentially lift such a beast?... Very Happy
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    Re: Tactical Nuclear Weapons

    Post  GarryB on Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:00 am

    Actually if you are going to put it on an ICBM it would be just as effective to use 7 tons of small steel balls about 10mm across with an ablative nose cone to protect them from the hypersonic slipstream until just short of impact...

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