Mr.Kalishnikov47 wrote:And what are the SWAT army teams??
GRU I'd assume.
GRU Spetsnaz? In USA SWAT is special police unit, like SOBR in Russia i think
Mr.Kalishnikov47 wrote:And what are the SWAT army teams??
GRU I'd assume.
Russian intelligence officers seek speedy creation of new special ops center
A group of leading military officers has asked the newly appointed Defense Minister to set up a Special Operations Command – a body uniting the commando teams and support services – that would match the modern day military and civilian challenges.
According to the proposal, the new command will unite the Senezh special operations center belonging to the Defense Ministry that reports personally to the minister, with a Spetsnaz brigade, a helicopter squadron of the Air Force training center in Torzhok, and a squadron of the Il-76 transport aircraft from the Migalovo air force base. A source in the Defense Ministry told the Izvestia daily that the plan to reform Russia’s special operations dates back to 2008. They were submitted to the recently dismissed former minister Anatoliy Serdyukov who rejected them without offering any explanation.
The plan will now be presented to the new Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu hoping that he will reverse his predecessor’s decision. Izvestia’s source stressed that the plan was made on the basis of foreign experience, namely France, UK and Germany and in some tactical elements the US experience was also used.
When founded, the Special Operations Command will take on various tasks like hostage rescue in enemy territory, evacuation of civilians from war zones, and operations against criminal groups. In case of a full scale war, commandos will destroy the enemy’s strategic weapons and command, disrupt communications and logistics and perform other duties.
Authors of the plan claim the creation of the new body has practically already happened as the helicopter squadron from Torzhok and the aircraft unit from Tver have been taking part Senezh center exercises for four years. The only thing needed now is to choose the Spetsnaz brigade from two options – either the central Russian Tambov Unit or one of the experienced brigades of the Southern Military District.
The initiative, however, has opponents among the Special Forces’ officers who say that the command must oversee all military Spetsnaz units, not the selected ones. The critics also pointed at foreign countries saying that in France or Britain all Special Forces in the military report to a single HQ.
Russian special forces returned to the operating room
Russian military justified the need for a single body control special forces in 2008, and then began the development of a specific project. However, in October of this year, former Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov has rejected the draft. The group of senior officers of the General Staff and the Chief Intelligence Directorate (GRU) has decided to achieve a positive decision from the new defense minister - Sergei Shoigu.
I must say that the Russian military intelligence, or rather for the GRU, the last few years were not the most favorable. Despite the fact that, in contrast to, for example, the KGB and Interior Ministry, military intelligence managed to survive the post-perestroika period and the "wild nineties" with minimal structural losses, major military reform has been on it rink. GRU is one of the most effective intelligence services in the world, and its force component - special forces - is at least the respect of all potential opponents. However, in the course of the reform of the Russian armed forces brigade GRU were partially cut and placed under the command of the military districts.
That, in the opinion of most military and special forces themselves, destroyed an effective system of special military operations. But now there is a chance to return to their seats, and can be pre-reform and improve the mechanism of special operations, the chairman of the Public Council under the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the chief editor of "National Defense" Igor Korotchenko . In an interview with "Voice of Russia" , he said:
"In my view, should not have been put out of the GRU spetsnaz brigades. My position is that the General Intelligence Department - is an independent value for our country, I was generally against the reforms of the GRU as such. Rather, it was necessary to strengthen, reinforce the authority of strategic intelligence. The fifth was a control - as it was called - which is run by sabotage activities in the territory of the enemy in the event of a full-scale war. And each of the teams responsible for a particular area of operations. But it is important to understand that, of course, geographically remote theater of war - Africa, Asia, South East Asia, if it is to act, we still did not have an adequate structure that could solve these problems. So perhaps now is exactly the time and occasion to really create Command special operations forces. "
Proponents of a unified command special forces say that the creation of such a structure will significantly improve the coordination of interaction between groups of special forces. For example, we know that often in counter-terrorist operations in the Caucasus is used by special forces, guided by different departments - GRU, FSB, MVD. Due to the different visions of the specific situation in the different headquarters military operations do not always bring the desired effect, although highly professional soldiers and officers who directly perform the task.
The above-mentioned U.S. Military Intelligence Agency (Defense Intelligence Agency - DIA) and the CIA, if necessary act in close coordination with the U.S. Special Operations Command (CSR; US Special Operations Command, SOCOM). Creating a unified special operations command failure was the result of a major U.S. intelligence in Iran. In 1980, special units of various arms of the U.S. (Air Force, Navy, Marines) during the complicated joint operation "Eagle Claw" had to release the American hostages detained in the United States Embassy in Tehran. Commando raid ended in complete failure, the loss of eight soldiers, several helicopters, aircraft and secret documents. The investigation of the disaster, American experts have concluded that at that time the main weak point of any importance was the lack of military special operations center that continuously planning the integrated use of various special forces. In spring 1987, the then U.S. President Ronald Reagan approved the establishment of the U.S. Special Operations Command. Since then, the agency manages special units of the Army, Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps. There also includes the famous "Green Berets."
Unified command of the military special forces practiced not only in the United States. The German Bundeswehr after its reorganization in 2001, was formed by the Special Operations Division, DSO (Division Spezialle Operationen). It includes all the mobile units and rapid response, including the battle group KSK special forces. Britain in all conflicts is using the famous SAS - Special Airborne Service (SAS, Special Air Service), created in 1942.
Russia has in modern conditions have to be effective mobile units SWAT sure Igor Korotchenko:
"Generally speaking, the Russian fishing trawler seized container or Somali pirates. This means that the SWAT team to fly to the area in a matter of hours to get there, to the corresponding operation. First, the structure should be ready to perform these functions. Must know theater of operations in the relevant geographic area. Secondly, to be deployed on-site communications, control in real time. So it is a complex organizational and technical problems. "
GRU participated in numerous operations abroad and has the unique experience of their conduct. As is known from open sources on the draft of the General Staff and the GRU special operations command center will include a special "Senezh" SWAT team, a helicopter squadron and the squadron of military transport aircraft Il-76. It is possible that the new structure will separate reconnaissance regiment of the 45th Airborne. However, this project - the first step, according to Russian military experts. In addition, on a broader scale, it then there is the special forces of the Navy, Marine Corps and other elite units of the Russian army. In principle, the formation of national CSR ready, lacking only the signature of the Minister of Defense.
Vann7 wrote:just saw the next video.. about Russian/chechen army ...in competition in Jordan..
Representing Russia..In wondering if this muslins chechens part of the Russian army trainsin the same way of all armed forces of Russian Federation.. if they follow orders of
Russia Defense minister.. and if their training is exactly the same of any other ethnic Russian
,lets say from moscow in the Russian army?