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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:49 pm

    Apparently the Russian UAV helicopter is better.

    Russia could just asset seize and let this guy go to US with nothing. Chances are, this will end up like that company who made those expensive sniper rifles in Russia. Moved to UAE, found out they didn't do so well in UAE after promises not kept, tried to go back into Russian market later to find out they can't because some other company (makes T-5000) has propt up and doing well in Russia.

    The UAV makers loss.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:42 am

    miketheterrible wrote:Apparently the Russian UAV helicopter is better.

    Russia could just asset seize and let this guy go to US with nothing.  Chances are, this will end up like that company who made those expensive sniper rifles in Russia. Moved to UAE, found out they didn't do so well in UAE after promises not kept, tried to go back into Russian market later to find out they can't because some other company (makes T-5000) has propt up and doing well in Russia.

    The UAV makers loss.

    Well there is military technical secrets, apparently they were working with MOD, if they decide to leave permanently then under current climate they could either strike a deal or seize whatever is necessary. The UAV is NOT a game changer, and Zala already has already small UAV's that can accurately and precisely map terrain with LIDAR:



    ...They're going in the same direction as Lobaev, will they also return with their tail in between their legs? Embarassed
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    Post  southpark on Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:14 am

    Probably fake news and why would NY do that...leftist state and they are dreaming Russia at the moment even during the day. US does not need it either....we have full spectrum of them already.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:59 am

    southpark wrote:Probably fake news and why would NY do that...leftist state and they are dreaming Russia at the moment even during the day. US does not need it either....we have full spectrum of them already.

    The news seems odd indeed. There's no end in sight for U.S. based UAV makers, from the very small to the massive military tech firms (Boeing, Lockheed Martin, etc.) that have UAV divisions over there own....of all the U.S. based military-tech firms out there, why would the state of New York give $200 million in subsidies to an obscure small UAV firm based in Russia? Smells like Bollocks!!! They're screaming like the 'grass is greener' on the other side, but they'll find out the hard way just like the Lobaev arms firm.
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:59 am

    I suspect this is an attempt to get a better counter offer from Russia... why else would you make public such an arrangement?


    If this developer had anything Russia needed they likely would not be allowed to take it with them to the US anyway...

    And quite frankly I would think they would be making this offer to the makers of S-400 and Pantsir and Armata rather than some UAV maker....
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    Post  Hole on Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:05 pm

    According to SouthFront Orion was used in Syria - with weapons.
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    Post  archangelski on Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:44 pm

    Hole wrote:According to SouthFront Orion was used in Syria - with weapons.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc0KeeR7D6o
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    Post  dino00 on Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:38 am

    Some crazy stuff going on
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:39 pm

    dino00 wrote:Some crazy stuff going on

    This proves my point without a shadow of a doubt, ECM is bar none by far the best way to deal with drones. From the video we saw how drone copters immediately were stopped in their tracks and quietly landed on the grown, similarly drones that fly like a plane will just crash to the ground and the effect will happen at the speed of light, instantaneous. Most of the 'suicide' drones the Kosher Nostra parades as destroyers of SAMs like Pantsir, can be killed just as easily as this. The Mosquito anti-drone ECM complex can effectively kill an indefinite amount of those things with a constant electro-magnetic barrier. Hard kill systems (57mm) are vastly inferior in that respect, and should be used solely on destroying drones that are ordinance carriers (UCAVs like Predator) or cruise missile drones like Tomahawks, where the destruction of the warhead ordinance is a high priority. Anti-drone drones armed with shotguns and nets should be used to cover/clean up the blind spots of the Mosquito ECM complex.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:58 am

    Well, the west likes to think in terms of new tech replacing old quite rapidly... even prematurely... ie MLRS is so wonderful, lets replace tube artillery with rockets....

    They have realised that tube artillery has its own virtues too...

    I personally think this technology can be combined with existing technology... these EM weapons can stop drones in their tracks and make them easier targets for even small arms to defend... make the hovering threats land and shoot them on the ground... make fixed wing threats crash, but keep other systems because we can't assume these systems will work perfectly forever or indeed on everything, so 57mm air burst shells and quad Pantsir missiles still have their place, but if these systems can do the job using a few cents worth of electricity then that is even better.

    It should be possible to develop a 57mm EMP round that can be fired to go off within a swarm for instance... local artillery batteries with 152mm Coalition could launch 152mm EMP rounds within a radius of 70km which is a circle 140km across that it could be used in... of course being careful not to send your own systems to sleep obviously...
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    Post  dino00 on Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:49 pm

    UAV "Eleron-7" with an updated optical module will be presented at the "Army-2019"

    The designers were able to modify the daily module payload UAV. Instead of 10x optical zoom, it now provides 30x. In this case, the overall dimensions of the apparatus in the piling remained the same.

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    The chief designer of Enix, Sergei Pobezhimov, stressed that the changes actually lifted Eleron-7 to a new level: "Now the characteristics of the optical part of Eleron are similar to those of heavier vehicles, take-off weight of 10-15 kg."

    Peter Syuhurov, advisor to the director of the scientific and technical center of PJSC KMZ, honorary aircraft manufacturer of Russia, told Mil.Press Military that an increase in the multiplicity of optics will not lead to a loss of quality of the image received by the operator.

    “The UAV, of course, is light. With a high magnification, you can expect image shaking. The designers, I think, expected it and took it into account. There is certainly gyrostabilization on Aileron. Plus, the image can be improved programmatically,” the expert concluded.

    Also, Pyotr Sygurov added that UAVs of such a class as "Eleron" are useful if the enemy uses means of disguise.
    “A typical target is a camouflaged tank. Once it is covered with insulating cloth, it becomes invisible in the IR range. It is covered with a conventional mask network - it becomes unobtrusive in the visible range. within the framework of the “Treaty on Open Skies". This problem can be solved only by such "Aileron" that can go at the height of the terrain. And from a height of 50-100 meters you can distinguish the same tank in size, "said Professor Pyotr Sygurov.
    Sergey Pobezhimov also clarified that regardless of the installed modules, a camera is mounted on the drone, thanks to which the device can autonomously carry out aerial photography of the surface.

    In addition to the payload in the UAV, the hardware of the tracking machine was reworked and the power plant was replaced - now in Eleron it is of domestic production.

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    https://xn--b1aga5aadd.xn--p1ai/2019/%D0%91%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%B025/

    Looks very good, will have to see the specs.

    This UAV was presented at army-2018, I never heard of that, only the eleron 3, anyway, there is a link with more picture s and information about him
    http://m.ruslet.webnode.cz/technika/ruska-technika/bezpilotni-prostredky/eniks/eleron-7/


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    Post  Cyberspec on Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:47 am

    Korsar with radar pod

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    Post  medo on Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:14 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:Korsar with radar pod

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    Well suited for NAVY for near coast maritime patrols.
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    Post  dino00 on Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:23 pm

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    "Kalashnikov" has created a new drone-kamikaze "Lancet"

    https://ria.ru/20190624/1555871983.html
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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:09 am

    dino00 wrote:UAVs in Russian Armed Forces: News - Page 37 15558710


    "Kalashnikov" has created a new drone-kamikaze "Lancet"

    https://ria.ru/20190624/1555871983.html


    For some reason I find this drone absolutely beautiful love



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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:16 am

    To be honest, my first thoughts were.... kamikazi?... what a waste...

    Korsar with radar pod

    Do we know it is a radar pod... it might just be a comms repeater to support radio communications in an area with bad communications like in the mountains...

    It could even be a datalink node to support ground operations with unmanned ground vehicles... or it could be for gathering electronic data and signals in a given area...
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    Post  medo on Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:15 am

    dino00 wrote:UAVs in Russian Armed Forces: News - Page 37 15558710


    "Kalashnikov" has created a new drone-kamikaze "Lancet"

    https://ria.ru/20190624/1555871983.html

    If there wasn't a propeller behind, I would say it is a new gliding bomb. Who knows, maybe they will also drop them from planes and helicopters.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:34 am

    Actually take away the propeller and wings and it looks like a SAPSAN pod...
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    Post  Isos on Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:23 am

    https://m.tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/20196242122-tYN5A.html/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

    So there is two variants of the drone. One smaller and one bigger. There is a video from test in tge link.

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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:44 pm

    On the CK website I saw this too...

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    Which looks pretty clever too... is it a bird... is it a plane?
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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:53 pm


    They will need different bird species, owls don't fly during day


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    Post  Isos on Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:32 pm

    https://mobile.twitter.com/RALee85/status/1143439431317315584

    Longer video of tests.

    It is far better than those atgms that use live video and wire guidance because thos drone are probably cheaper, spends more time in the air and provide reco for 30 min before hiting anything they want at a longer range.
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    Post  George1 on Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:54 pm

    As Rostec CEO Sergey Chemezov told journalists in his turn, the new intellectual complex ZALA Lancet includes a reconnaissance, coherent, navigational and high-precision percussion element. “Under the conditions of new combat operations, it is capable of striking in the air, on land and water without creating a ground or maritime infrastructure. This system is superior in efficiency to standard types of weapons, but it is incommensurably less,” Chemezov said.



    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3686030.html

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:59 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    They will need different bird species, owls don't fly during day



    There's already an Eagle version.

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