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    UAVs in Russian Armed Forces: News

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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:49 pm

    Apparently the Russian UAV helicopter is better.

    Russia could just asset seize and let this guy go to US with nothing. Chances are, this will end up like that company who made those expensive sniper rifles in Russia. Moved to UAE, found out they didn't do so well in UAE after promises not kept, tried to go back into Russian market later to find out they can't because some other company (makes T-5000) has propt up and doing well in Russia.

    The UAV makers loss.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:42 am

    miketheterrible wrote:Apparently the Russian UAV helicopter is better.

    Russia could just asset seize and let this guy go to US with nothing.  Chances are, this will end up like that company who made those expensive sniper rifles in Russia. Moved to UAE, found out they didn't do so well in UAE after promises not kept, tried to go back into Russian market later to find out they can't because some other company (makes T-5000) has propt up and doing well in Russia.

    The UAV makers loss.

    Well there is military technical secrets, apparently they were working with MOD, if they decide to leave permanently then under current climate they could either strike a deal or seize whatever is necessary. The UAV is NOT a game changer, and Zala already has already small UAV's that can accurately and precisely map terrain with LIDAR:



    ...They're going in the same direction as Lobaev, will they also return with their tail in between their legs? Embarassed
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    Post  southpark on Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:14 am

    Probably fake news and why would NY do that...leftist state and they are dreaming Russia at the moment even during the day. US does not need it either....we have full spectrum of them already.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:59 am

    southpark wrote:Probably fake news and why would NY do that...leftist state and they are dreaming Russia at the moment even during the day. US does not need it either....we have full spectrum of them already.

    The news seems odd indeed. There's no end in sight for U.S. based UAV makers, from the very small to the massive military tech firms (Boeing, Lockheed Martin, etc.) that have UAV divisions over there own....of all the U.S. based military-tech firms out there, why would the state of New York give $200 million in subsidies to an obscure small UAV firm based in Russia? Smells like Bollocks!!! They're screaming like the 'grass is greener' on the other side, but they'll find out the hard way just like the Lobaev arms firm.
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:59 am

    I suspect this is an attempt to get a better counter offer from Russia... why else would you make public such an arrangement?


    If this developer had anything Russia needed they likely would not be allowed to take it with them to the US anyway...

    And quite frankly I would think they would be making this offer to the makers of S-400 and Pantsir and Armata rather than some UAV maker....
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    Post  Hole on Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:05 pm

    According to SouthFront Orion was used in Syria - with weapons.
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    Post  archangelski on Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:44 pm

    Hole wrote:According to SouthFront Orion was used in Syria - with weapons.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc0KeeR7D6o
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    Post  dino00 on Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:38 am

    Some crazy stuff going on
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:39 pm

    dino00 wrote:Some crazy stuff going on

    This proves my point without a shadow of a doubt, ECM is bar none by far the best way to deal with drones. From the video we saw how drone copters immediately were stopped in their tracks and quietly landed on the grown, similarly drones that fly like a plane will just crash to the ground and the effect will happen at the speed of light, instantaneous. Most of the 'suicide' drones the Kosher Nostra parades as destroyers of SAMs like Pantsir, can be killed just as easily as this. The Mosquito anti-drone ECM complex can effectively kill an indefinite amount of those things with a constant electro-magnetic barrier. Hard kill systems (57mm) are vastly inferior in that respect, and should be used solely on destroying drones that are ordinance carriers (UCAVs like Predator) or cruise missile drones like Tomahawks, where the destruction of the warhead ordinance is a high priority. Anti-drone drones armed with shotguns and nets should be used to cover/clean up the blind spots of the Mosquito ECM complex.
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    Post  GarryB Today at 2:58 am

    Well, the west likes to think in terms of new tech replacing old quite rapidly... even prematurely... ie MLRS is so wonderful, lets replace tube artillery with rockets....

    They have realised that tube artillery has its own virtues too...

    I personally think this technology can be combined with existing technology... these EM weapons can stop drones in their tracks and make them easier targets for even small arms to defend... make the hovering threats land and shoot them on the ground... make fixed wing threats crash, but keep other systems because we can't assume these systems will work perfectly forever or indeed on everything, so 57mm air burst shells and quad Pantsir missiles still have their place, but if these systems can do the job using a few cents worth of electricity then that is even better.

    It should be possible to develop a 57mm EMP round that can be fired to go off within a swarm for instance... local artillery batteries with 152mm Coalition could launch 152mm EMP rounds within a radius of 70km which is a circle 140km across that it could be used in... of course being careful not to send your own systems to sleep obviously...

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