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    Re: UAVs in Russian Armed Forces: News

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:12 am

    Militarov wrote:

    And there seems to be some attack capability availabe


    Combine that helidrone with Uran-9 and you have nice little mini horror show for entrenched enemy while you sip tea at safe distance. Drones tenderize, troops mop up...

    Add some human snipers in the mix and oh boy Smile


    That fixed wing model in the back is something new, haven't seen it before, anyone have some info on it?
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    Post  TheArmenian on Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:18 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Militarov wrote:And there seems to be some attack capability availabe


    Combine that helidrone with Uran-9 and you have nice little mini horror show for entrenched enemy while you sip tea at safe distance. Drones tenderize, troops mop up...

    Add some human snipers in the mix and oh boy Smile


    That fixed wing model in the back is something new, haven't seen it before, anyone have some info on it?

    It is called KORSAR

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    Post  Vann7 on Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:30 pm

    Isos wrote:We saw what hapened to US drones near Iran or near Crimea. Not reliable technology for a conventional warefare. US trying to base their tactics, even military strategy, on it is stupid. Unless you make them totaly autonomus, they will ever be subject to hacking, jamming or destroyed by manned fighters. The worst scenario would be that they can be hacked by terrorist and used against civilians (USA are doing this too however) .

    Russia is producing them to have the technology and to help their ground forces to have instanteneous picture of battlefield. They use small cheap drone so that they can send them for 30 minutes on the enemy line and coordinate attacks. They know they won't last more than that their.

    Bigger drones have to fly high and can be spotted by any anti air system and destroyed easily before they reach their engagement zone, specially by front line pantsir, buk and Tanguskas or tor.


    Is because drones were never intended to bypass the air defenses of any modern nation.. Drones major role
    come into place because Terrorist hide in caves like afganistan, or underground bunkers like Syria whenever listen combat planes or attack helicopters near. So you send a combat plane...terrorist hide before you do anything and then bomb is wasted.. and terrorist go outside ,when no longer listen the combat plane.. With drones they use fans to make them silent.. and for very efficient continuous operation in air.. So with a drone you can have 24 hours or 36 hours non stop monitoring of terrorist positions , and do it stealthily. and when they show up , and leave their bunkers
    and show their heads.. BOOM.. target the terrorist with the bombs in the attack drone..

    So drones have its place.. it fills the gap between Combat planes and attack hellicopters , Drones are ideal for soft targets and to carry many mini bombs designed to soft targets..like terrorist. or pickup trucks.. for a fight against
    NATO drones are useless.. they only can operate in zones there are no air defenses targeting them..

    and drones also remove the risk of losing human live.. So drones have its place.. but their role is largely more
    important against Rebels and or terrorist.. Against NATO Russia will be better with an A-50 or A-100 intellignece.

    Drones can also save money ,in monitoring military bases from air non stop. If Russia had combat drones.. it will have made more harder for ISIS to hide.. and will wiped way more ISIS terrorist.

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    Post  marcellogo on Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:28 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    Is because drones were never intended to bypass the air defenses of any modern nation.. Drones major role
    come into place because Terrorist hide in caves like afganistan, or underground bunkers like Syria whenever listen combat planes or attack helicopters near. So you send a combat plane...terrorist hide before you do anything and then bomb is wasted.. and terrorist go outside ,when no longer listen the combat plane.. With drones they use fans to make them silent.. and for very efficient continuous operation in air.. So with a drone you can have 24 hours or 36 hours non stop monitoring of terrorist positions , and do it stealthily. and when they show up , and leave their bunkers
    and show their heads.. BOOM.. target the terrorist with the bombs in the attack drone..
    So drones have its place.. it fills the gap between Combat planes and attack hellicopters , Drones are ideal for soft targets and to carry many mini bombs designed to soft targets..like terrorist. or pickup trucks.. for a fight against
    NATO drones are useless.. they only can operate in zones there are no air defenses targeting them..
    and drones also remove the risk of losing human live.. So drones have its place.. but their role is largely  more
    important against Rebels and or terrorist.. Against NATO Russia will be better with an A-50 or A-100 intellignece.

    Drones can also save money ,in monitoring military bases from air non stop. If Russia had combat drones.. it will have made more harder for ISIS to hide.. and will wiped way more ISIS terrorist.
    Let's make a distinction there.
    UAV have surely their role in all type of conflict, big or small.
    Armed drones it's just another matter.
    Against even a small sized air defence they are helpless, if not supported by conventional planes.
    Same about anti-terrorism role, also in this case it's a question of scale.
    In a case like Syria/Iraq you didn't face rag-tag groups of insurgents hiding in a cave of a mountain, both large groups capable of fielding hundreds of fighters.
    When faced by air forces alone they would disperse and blend with local populace leaving just the minimum visible presence needed to keep civilians into submission.
    Against such a structure. use of armed drones could just get some pinpricks here and there but nothing substantial.
    Better use them just as a recon device in DIRECT support of ground forces, leaving rebels into get up and fight in the field, so getting all AF and artillery firepower against them or keep to stay hidden and be overrun by the advancing troops.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:57 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:

    Check ze engine



    https://www.flyrotax.com/produkte/detail/rotax-912-is-isc-sport.html

    That's twice the size of the Scheibel S-100 it draws upon.

    It is literally and S-100 doubled up.

    And do you know where Russia encountered the S-100? In Ukraine used by the OSCE mission.

    https://112.international/conflict-in-eastern-ukraine/donetsk-militants-fired-at-osce-drone-25512.html

    Good move from Russia, they went for a good engine.

    Oh BTW the S-100 can be equipped with modest AA capability.
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    Post  TheArmenian on Wed Apr 25, 2018 2:25 am



    Korsar
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    Post  George1 on Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:51 am

    New Russian coaxial rotor UAV by AO KumAPP during the Victory Day Parade rehearsal in Alabino.
    Still taken from 0:58 mark in the video - https://youtu.be/rmzVsWT8Ke4 Re; earlier Tweet in this thread - those are 9M120 Ataka missile launch tubes, not 9M114.



    https://twitter.com/Russian_Defence/status/988885169779200021
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    Post  TheArmenian on Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:45 am



    KORSAR again.
    The missile does not look like ATAKA to me.

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    Post  Isos on Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:52 am

    It is maybe hermes missilee or a fuel tank.
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:50 am

    One end looks slightly wider like Konkurs... but I don't think they would go for Konkurs over Ataka simply because wire guided is not as good as command guided for air launched missiles...

    It is certainly not a fuel tank and I don't think it is Hermes either...
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    Post  George1 on Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:28 am

    Fresh image of the Korsar UAV by KB Luch during the evening Victory Day Parade rehearsal in Moscow.With wings attached and 9M120 Ataka & 9M113(M) Konkurs missile launch tubes on the KamAZ trailer. Note the pixelated livery, plus one more Korsar in the background.



    https://twitter.com/Russian_Defence/status/989607378432790533

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    Post  Vann7 on Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:01 am

    George1 wrote:Fresh image of the Korsar UAV by KB Luch during the evening Victory Day Parade rehearsal in Moscow.With wings attached and 9M120 Ataka & 9M113(M) Konkurs missile launch tubes on the KamAZ trailer. Note the pixelated livery, plus one more Korsar in the background.



    https://twitter.com/Russian_Defence/status/989607378432790533


    What a load of Crap...  Neutral

    I don't know what's wrong with Russia military , decision makers in using such crappy missiles
    in drones.. For attack drones you need FAST missiles ,not incredibly slow ones.. warning your enemies
    5 minutes before the missile hit their positions.  I have been watching Russian Attack Helicopters in Syria
    their abysmally awful missiles , that takes an eternity to  get to the terrorist.. and how because they are guided manually through optics.. have seen not only how incredibly slow the missiles are.. but how painful and embarrasing
    was after the pilot wasted 1 minute or 2 .. waiting for the missile reach a moving car with terrorist and then failing
    to intercept it.. the pilot to need to fire another missile and wait even more.. It was like 4-5 minutes to kill a single pick
    up truck in motion. No

    looked very amateurish.. and very weak.. having to fire 2 ataka missiles ,
    and wait an eternity for just destroying a stupid pickup truck in motion of a terrorist in Syria. No

    speed...
    ataka ,missiles   =  400 m/s
    9M113 Konkurs  =  170 m/s

    This is horribly slow , to hit anything..
    in comparison..

    Predator hellfire missile speed. = Mach 1.3

    So literary the Predator missiles are up to 10x times the speed of the crap Russia drones use.
    if your missiles are very slow.. it will give plenty of time for terrorist to do evasive maneuvers and hide..
    if missiles are fast. terrorist will not have enough time to react. and hide.

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    Post  Isos on Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:17 am

    speed...
    ataka ,missiles   =  400 m/s
    9M113 Konkurs  =  170 m/s

    This is horribly slow , to hit anything..
    in comparison..

    Predator hellfire missile speed. = Mach 1.3

    Mach 1.3 = 446 m/s which is almost the speed of ataka ...
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    Post  medo on Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:07 pm

    Max. speed of Vikhr is 600 m/s. Ataka and Khrizantema ATGM have similar speed to Hellfire, all the rest western or russian ATGMs are subsonic.

    AT-5 Konkurs ATGM have average speed of 200+ m/s and is in class with HOT and TOW ATGMs, which are wire guided. 170 m/s is for AT-4 Fagot ATGM.

    Ataka and Khrizantema ATGMs have average speed of 400+ m/s and max. speed for Ataka is 550 m/s, so it is not that slow. Only ATGMs are faster than speed of sound with UAV armament, all other munition is subsonic, so Predator or Reaper ammunition is no faster than russian ammunition. It take similar time to reach target at 8 km for Ataka or Hellfire missile.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:26 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    George1 wrote:Fresh image of the Korsar UAV by KB Luch during the evening Victory Day Parade rehearsal in Moscow.With wings attached and 9M120 Ataka & 9M113(M) Konkurs missile launch tubes on the KamAZ trailer. Note the pixelated livery, plus one more Korsar in the background.



    https://twitter.com/Russian_Defence/status/989607378432790533


    What a load of Crap...  Neutral

    I don't know what's wrong with Russia military , decision makers in using such crappy missiles
    in drones.. For attack drones you need FAST missiles ,not incredibly slow ones.. warning your enemies
    5 minutes before the missile hit their positions.  I have been watching Russian Attack Helicopters in Syria
    their abysmally awful missiles , that takes an eternity to  get to the terrorist.. and how because they are guided manually through optics.. have seen not only how incredibly slow the missiles are.. but how painful and embarrasing
    was after the pilot wasted 1 minute or 2 .. waiting for the missile reach a moving car with terrorist and then failing
    to intercept it.. the pilot to need to fire another missile and wait even more.. It was like 4-5 minutes to kill a single pick
    up truck in motion. No

    looked very amateurish.. and very weak.. having to fire 2 ataka missiles ,
    and wait an eternity for just destroying a stupid pickup truck in motion of a terrorist in Syria.  No

    speed...
    ataka ,missiles   =  400 m/s
    9M113 Konkurs  =  170 m/s

    This is horribly slow , to hit anything..
    in comparison..

    Predator hellfire missile speed. = Mach 1.3

    So literary the Predator missiles are up to 10x times the speed of the crap Russia drones use.
    if your missiles are very slow.. it will give plenty of time for terrorist to do evasive maneuvers and hide..
    if missiles are fast. terrorist will not have enough time to react. and hide.


    Holy S*** if this post doesn't get you ban for laughably delusional ignorance, I don't know what will.
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    Post  Isos on Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:01 pm

    George1 wrote:Fresh image of the Korsar UAV by KB Luch during the evening Victory Day Parade rehearsal in Moscow.With wings attached and 9M120 Ataka & 9M113(M) Konkurs missile launch tubes on the KamAZ trailer. Note the pixelated livery, plus one more Korsar in the background.



    https://twitter.com/Russian_Defence/status/989607378432790533

    Is it remote controled ?

    I'm really not fan of drones. They are not cheap at all and the cheapest trainer aircraft could be transformed in light reco anf attack to make their job.

    Russia proved itself that it can easily jam small drones in Syria and the best that US has. Same with Israel intercepting one with a chopper ...

    The bigger ones are easy targets for anti air systems. A yak 152 with reduced RCS and some missiles could do a far better job than those things. Pilots don't need an expensive training and the plane itself is cheap to operate.

    The human factor can't be replaced in aviation.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:28 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:
    George1 wrote:Fresh image of the Korsar UAV by KB Luch during the evening Victory Day Parade rehearsal in Moscow.With wings attached and 9M120 Ataka & 9M113(M) Konkurs missile launch tubes on the KamAZ trailer. Note the pixelated livery, plus one more Korsar in the background.



    https://twitter.com/Russian_Defence/status/989607378432790533


    What a load of Crap...  Neutral

    I don't know what's wrong with Russia military , decision makers in using such crappy missiles
    in drones.. For attack drones you need FAST missiles ,not incredibly slow ones.. warning your enemies
    5 minutes before the missile hit their positions.  I have been watching Russian Attack Helicopters in Syria
    their abysmally awful missiles , that takes an eternity to  get to the terrorist.. and how because they are guided manually through optics.. have seen not only how incredibly slow the missiles are.. but how painful and embarrasing
    was after the pilot wasted 1 minute or 2 .. waiting for the missile reach a moving car with terrorist and then failing
    to intercept it.. the pilot to need to fire another missile and wait even more.. It was like 4-5 minutes to kill a single pick
    up truck in motion. No

    looked very amateurish.. and very weak.. having to fire 2 ataka missiles ,
    and wait an eternity for just destroying a stupid pickup truck in motion of a terrorist in Syria.  No

    speed...
    ataka ,missiles   =  400 m/s
    9M113 Konkurs  =  170 m/s

    This is horribly slow , to hit anything..
    in comparison..

    Predator hellfire missile speed. = Mach 1.3

    So literary the Predator missiles are up to 10x times the speed of the crap Russia drones use.
    if your missiles are very slow.. it will give plenty of time for terrorist to do evasive maneuvers and hide..
    if missiles are fast. terrorist will not have enough time to react. and hide.


    Holy S*** if this post doesn't get you ban for laughably delusional ignorance, I don't know what will.

    I think he's kept around for comic relief. Literally nothing will get him banned, he's been spamming and trolling this board for YEARS!
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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:49 pm

    Isos wrote:.....
    Is it remote controled ?

    I'm really not fan of drones. They are not cheap at all and the cheapest trainer aircraft could be transformed in light reco anf attack to make their job.

    Russia proved itself that it can easily jam small drones in Syria and the best that US has. Same with Israel intercepting one with a chopper ...

    The bigger ones are easy targets for anti air systems. A yak 152 with reduced RCS and some missiles could do a far better job than those things. Pilots don't need an expensive training and the plane itself is cheap to operate.

    The human factor can't be replaced in aviation.

    Drones are still cheaper than humans.

    What we see here with Corsar and that helidrone are army drones not airforce drones (weapon types are dead giveaway). You send them ahead to scout and haras enemies while you relax and prepare for kill blow.

    They would be used in low intensity conflicts like Syria and the Ukraine. Anything bigger would unfold too fast to deploy drones in any other role than recon and only in initial stage.

    These types of drones will keep financial and political pricetag of wars low and give nation wider range of options in small and mid sized crises.

    Airforce will be getting larger models​ with lot more range.
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    Post  Militarov on Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:21 pm

    Vann7 wrote:

    What a load of Crap...  Neutral

    I don't know what's wrong with Russia military , decision makers in using such crappy missiles
    in drones.. For attack drones you need FAST missiles ,not incredibly slow ones.. warning your enemies
    5 minutes before the missile hit their positions.  I have been watching Russian Attack Helicopters in Syria
    their abysmally awful missiles , that takes an eternity to  get to the terrorist.. and how because they are guided manually through optics.. have seen not only how incredibly slow the missiles are.. but how painful and embarrasing
    was after the pilot wasted 1 minute or 2 .. waiting for the missile reach a moving car with terrorist and then failing
    to intercept it.. the pilot to need to fire another missile and wait even more.. It was like 4-5 minutes to kill a single pick
    up truck in motion. No

    looked very amateurish.. and very weak.. having to fire 2 ataka missiles ,
    and wait an eternity for just destroying a stupid pickup truck in motion of a terrorist in Syria.  No

    speed...
    ataka ,missiles   =  400 m/s
    9M113 Konkurs  =  170 m/s

    This is horribly slow , to hit anything..
    in comparison..

    Predator hellfire missile speed. = Mach 1.3

    So literary the Predator missiles are up to 10x times the speed of the crap Russia drones use.
    if your missiles are very slow.. it will give plenty of time for terrorist to do evasive maneuvers and hide..
    if missiles are fast. terrorist will not have enough time to react. and hide.


    Okay.. now... go and do the math how many m/s is 1,3 Mach please. After you are done place finger firmly on your forehead and think, very, very carefully... why we all dislike you. Suspect
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:21 am

    With wings attached and 9M120 Ataka & 9M113(M) Konkurs missile launch tubes on the KamAZ trailer.

    The missile tube in front is new.

    The missile tubes in front of the UAV are not pure cylinders... they appear to get wider near one end like the Konkurs did...
    From what I remember the rear of Konkurs was wider to make room for the wire guidance spool that allowed it to reach targets at 4-4.5km range.

    I rather doubt this missile is wire guided.

    Perhaps we are looking at a new model of Kristantema with a modifed nose or warhead?

    The launch tubes for Shturm, Ataka, and Krisantema, as well as Kornet are all straight cylinders... is this a new weapon?

    Or a new version of an existing type?

    speed...
    ataka ,missiles = 400 m/s
    9M113 Konkurs = 170 m/s

    This is horribly slow , to hit anything..
    in comparison..

    Predator hellfire missile speed. = Mach 1.3

    So literary the Predator missiles are up to 10x times the speed of the crap Russia drones use.
    if your missiles are very slow.. it will give plenty of time for terrorist to do evasive maneuvers and hide..
    if missiles are fast. terrorist will not have enough time to react. and hide.

    The speed of sound at sea level is 320m/s, so this 10 times faster US missile moves at 416m/s.

    Also Ataka moves at 450m/s, while the larger slower Krisantema moves at 420m/s but it has a larger warhead... and it has a slightly longer range... which is very important because all the speeds listed above are average speeds... which obviously depends on distance covered divided by flight time... so much longer range can make a faster missile seem slower.

    Ironically the slowest operational missiles are Javelin and Spike... gonna bitch about them are we?

    Holy S*** if this post doesn't get you ban for laughably delusional ignorance, I don't know what will.

    No rules about going off half cocked... or being totally wrong.... which is just as well... I am not always right myself.


    I'm really not fan of drones. They are not cheap at all and the cheapest trainer aircraft could be transformed in light reco anf attack to make their job.

    They are rather small and hard to spot, yet can operate above the range of small arms fire, yet deliver weapons on target when needed.

    Ataka is command guided so launching from 5km altitude you could probably hit targets 10km away... the target would have no idea it is under attack... especially as it moves at supersonic speed so the first sound the target will hear is the warhead exploding.

    the same guidance is used with Pantsir and TOR missiles so it can be very accurate out to decent distances.

    Don't think of these things as replacements for Su-25s and Mi-28/Ka-52s... these are a light recon tool that the local force commander can launch to see what is ahead or in an area he wants to monitor or may have to move into.

    The point of these things is that they are disposable, so who cares if one gets shot down... but it does mean troops moving into new areas can have a good look there before setting boots there and any obvious target spotted can be dealt with immediately.

    With Krisantema then you have a supersonic missile with a range of 6km+ that can penetrate 1.2 metres of steel plate, so even if it detects a tank it can start to take them on. Of course to soften the enemy if any air defence forces are detected they would likely take first priority to lessen their impact on follow up assets like Su-25s and Mils and Kamovs... but if the local commanders jeep is spotted then obviously that will be target number one... if a patriot battery is there or an MLRS battery then it would just as likely keep looking quietly as the target location information is passed up to HQ for an artillery barrage of 300mm unguided rockets from a nearby Smerch battery...

    Russia proved itself that it can easily jam small drones in Syria and the best that US has. Same with Israel intercepting one with a chopper ...

    So they can't use them to invade the US or Israel... there are still plenty of situations where they can be useful...

    The bigger ones are easy targets for anti air systems. A yak 152 with reduced RCS and some missiles could do a far better job than those things. Pilots don't need an expensive training and the plane itself is cheap to operate.

    Most will be operating at standoff distances and heights where ground fire should not be an issue... with a Yak-152, if you took that 90kg pilot and the 200kg ejection seat out you could put another 300 odd Kgs of equipment or fuel or weapons in there... leave the Yak-152 for training pilots and use the UCAVs for what they are good at.

    The human factor can't be replaced in aviation.

    It isn't... there will be a guy with the forces this drone is operating with monitoring the data it collects and populating maps with the location of the enemy forces... if the drone comes under fire or a particularly juicy target appears then they might open fire immediately, but half the time it will not fire and will bring its missiles back home for use another day. Video feed of targets can be used locally and sent to HQ for processing and passing on information or selecting targets to be engaged.

    BTW Good explanation PapaDragon.... at one point we had whining because there were no Russia UCAVs... well now we see one and it is not well enough armed... which is hugely ironic of course

    Recently a video was shown with objects like aircraft and missiles being hung in front of all manner of radars and IR sensors... the purpose of this was to determine the radar and IR signature of various enemy assets and equipment... that way they can be automatically identified by their radar or IR signature.

    The same will be performed with optical signatures, so that video footage can be processed by software to detect and identify equipment and systems, which can be used with data on where the drone was when it took the video as well as laser ranging of objects in view the angle and distance is used to plot the targets on maps in real time that can be updated in frontline forces battle management systems... you are sitting in your Armata tank and you know you have orders to move forward over a low hill... hours before your operation one of these drones is sent and as it flys around targets start popping up on your map showing you the locations of visible enemy positions... pretty damn useful... especially if you can click onto the symbol on your screen and it brings up a still image of the target taken from the video from the drone...

    Wont be perfect... targets move and some things wont be spotted every time... but it does build a picture... hell if you spot a threatening target the drone could remain in the air and local artillery could start firing laser homing missiles like the Krasnopol, or perhaps Smelchak if it is particularly hard... the drone can light up the target and boom... before ground forces even move.

    My opinion... as long as it has good optics for stand off operations up high... having supersonic command guided ATGMs is ideal... a fraction of the cost of laser homing, yet precise and not range and speed limited like wire guided.

    Being launched from 4-5km up would mean average speed would likely be boosted to the 500-550m/s range and horizontal range would also be improved.

    With 5km altitude you are above small arms fire range and MANPADS should not be a huge issue, plus at that altitude they will never hear you or see you... just ideal to watch and find enemy targets...
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    Post  miketheterrible on Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:03 pm

    https://southfront.org/new-photo-of-russias-tactical-combat-uav-korsar-sparks-rumors-about-its-usage-in-syria/
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    Post  George1 on Tue May 01, 2018 1:44 am

    Some more photos from April 26th night rehearsal of 2018 Victory Day Parade

    Katran UAV



    Katran UAV second version



    Korsar UAV



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    Post  Project Canada on Tue May 01, 2018 1:52 am

    Any specs for the UAVs?
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    Post  Militarov on Tue May 01, 2018 2:06 am

    https://informnapalm.org/en/russian-drone-orlan-10-consists-of-parts-produced-in-the-usa-and-other-countries-photo-evidence/

    Well...not like we didnt know.
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    Re: UAVs in Russian Armed Forces: News

    Post  miketheterrible on Tue May 01, 2018 2:19 am

    No shit. It started production way before import substitution in 2010. For all we know, this could have been an older model? Don't know.

    Since they can't get their hands on most of that anymore due to sanctions, I imagine most basic components are Russian and the more advanced components are maybe Chinese.

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