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    Cyberspec

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    Re: UAVs in Russian Armed Forces: News

    Post  Cyberspec on Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:39 am

    Second Altius/Altair prototype unveiled

    Arrow https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/93663/



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    Post  George1 on Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:24 am

    New details of the research project "Ohotnik-B" and the design of the unmanned aerial vehicle S-70

    Some additional details on the development of the unobtrusive unmanned S-70 unmanned aircraft in Russia ("Ohotnik-B" research project) are reported by Piotr Butowski in the note "Au-dela du Su-57: le Su-70 Okhotnik" published by Air & Cosmos. Thus, the author notes that on October 14, 2011, the Russian Ministry of Defense instructed Sukhoi Company (Sukhoi Design Bureau) to begin research work on the topic "Ohotnik", whose goal is to create an unmanned reconnaissance-strike system that would have a large Speed ​​and autonomy. In those rare documents where there is mention of the "Ohotnik", it is characterized as "unmanned aerial vehicle of the sixth generation"



    Within the framework of the research project "Ohotnik" Sukhoi Design Bureau is developing a project designated as S-70. According to information to be checked, the S-70 demonstrator was manufactured at the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant named after V.P. Chkalov - a branch of JSC "Company" Sukhoi ". The first flight is scheduled for 2018. The specific characteristics of the S-70 are unknown, only guesswork can be built. The weight of the UAV is in the range of 10-20 tons, and the maximum speed is estimated at 1000 km/h.



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    Re: UAVs in Russian Armed Forces: News

    Post  Arctic_Fox on Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:13 am

    Found this at Yak oficial page:

    ALBATROS and EXPERT, never heard of them before.

    still in development? any info about them?

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    Post  Austin on Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:03 pm

    Russia’s First MALE UAV Is Revealed

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    Egozi: Israel Will Not Export Advanced UAVs to Russia

    Post  theking950 on Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:03 pm

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    Egozi: Israel Will Not Export Advanced UAVs to Russia

    By Arie Egozi

    This was the U.S demand even before the Trump era and the downturn it had brought to the Washington-Moscow relations. Washington has objected to the further sale of any type of Israeli-made unmanned aerial system (UAV) to Russia. The unofficial embargo has been the focus of talks between Washington and Jerusalem during the Obama era but the Americans made it clear that their position was firm.

    Israeli sources said that the fact that a Russian UAV entered the Israeli airspace from Syria last year gives Washington another reason to block any future sales of Israeli-made UAVs to Russia. This was prior to the recent deterioration of the relations between the U.S and Russia.


    Immediately after the UAV was detected, two Patriot surface-to-air missiles were launched and missed. A third attempt to shoot it down with an air-air missile also failed.

    According to the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF), the origin of the UAV has not been verified, but sources said that it is probably an Israeli-made Russian UAV operated by the Russian forces in Syria.

    In recent months, Washington has vetoed any further sales of Israeli-made UAVs to Russia. Israel has tried to fight the veto as part of the improved relations with Russia. Washington says that the war in Syria may result in advanced technologies falling in the hands of ISIS.

    Russian companies have recently contacted some Israeli manufacturers of UAVs in an attempt to reach some kind of a joint venture agreement, but after checking with the Israeli Ministry of Defense it became obvious that the Americans would be “very angry” if further sales would be made.

    Some years ago, the Russians have purchased 10 Searcher 2 and 30 BirdEye-450 from Israel aerospace industries (IAI). The Israeli-made UAVs were partially assembled in a Russian plant. Some of the UAVs, mainly the Searcher 2 dubbed Forpost in Russia, have been used by the Russian forces in Syria.

    Russian sources said that the combat experience has resulted in a demand for more advanced UAVs that are manufactured by some Israeli companies. The preliminary talks with the Israeli companies have been cut short after it was made clear that as a result of an American veto an export license will not be issued.

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    Re: UAVs in Russian Armed Forces: News

    Post  theking950 on Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:06 pm

    if russia develop 20 ton ucav why they want to buy from israel?
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    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:09 pm

    theking950 wrote:if russia develop 20 ton ucav why they want to buy from israel?

    They don't. Post a Russian source saying they want Israeli UAV's.

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    Post  theking950 on Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:17 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    theking950 wrote:if russia develop 20 ton ucav why they want to buy from israel?

    They don't.  Post a Russian source saying they want Israeli UAV's.
    maybe they wont admit it
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    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:18 pm

    theking950 wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    theking950 wrote:if russia develop 20 ton ucav why they want to buy from israel?

    They don't.  Post a Russian source saying they want Israeli UAV's.
    maybe they wont admit it

    Better yet, you can take your links and shove it. Because it holds no form of reality.  "since they don't want to admit it".  Hey asshole, unlike your shitty Jew media, Russia has real independent media.  You know that?  Novaya Gozeta hates Putin so they would post this drivel as well.

    But, reality is, Russia doesn't want it.  We have gone over this with you.  Western media is bullshit, sorry to say.  And that is why Russia funded programs like Orion and Altius.

    So thank you, and go away.

    So once again, please provide proof or fuck off.

    Lets see, non Russian government media outlets not reporting it: interfax, Novaya Gazeta. Huh, so I guess it isn't real then. Funny thing too, is that Russia could have purchased it prior to 2014. but nope, nothing.

    Sure sounds like Israel suffers from some delusions of grandeur were everyone wants their shit. Yet, you can get same shit from Turkey if they REALLY wanted to. Or Iran.

    Gee, I guess russia will just have to use the stuff that they make like Orion. Oh well. Poor them Laughing
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    Re: UAVs in Russian Armed Forces: News

    Post  GarryB on Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:19 am

    if russia develop 20 ton ucav why they want to buy from israel?

    In the mid 1980s the Soviets launched the Buran on an Energyia rocket... it flew at mach 22+ and circled the earth and weighed rather more than 20 tons.

    It is not about weight.

    Different UAVs have different sensors and systems and performances.

    Clearly the Israeli UAVs had software and systems that were tested and proven and have been developed over many years with many millions of dollars spent on making them better.

    Think of it in terms of the failed Mistral deal with France.

    The Mistrals were a proven design that would have gotten into service rapidly and not have future problems or issues because of hidden or unforeseen faults.

    Of course the real issue was the stupid French government and no fault on the side of the French ship makers, though in the end the Russians ended getting full indepth access to the design and systems of the Mistral and got their money back and also got sales potential for systems and aircraft to the new owner Egypt... but they didn't get the ships they wanted in the time frame they wanted.

    Now they have more time to develop and plan and build their own ships, which means more time to develop and build other support ships and equipment.

    It is the same with these Israeli UAVs.

    They would prefer to buy more UAVs that are better than the ones they have previously bought, but that is clearly off the table.

    They are using UAVs and seem to be very effective in their use in Syria, so at the end of the day these US imposed sanctions are only hurting Israeli companies that are not getting contracts that will now likely go to Russian companies.

    the investment will improve Russian capabilities in this area.

    We have already seen feedback from Syria about needing better optics for longer range viewing in all weathers day and night, so I expect they are already going to apply that to UAVs and UCAVs too.


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    Re: UAVs in Russian Armed Forces: News

    Post  George1 on Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:12 am

    Interesting

    Aviation means of destruction for UAV

    In the special exposition of the "Innovation Club" within the framework of the 3rd International Military Technical Forum "Army-2017" at the stand of OKB Aviaautomatika LLC (Kursk) a new complex of aviation armament for the UAV (KAVB) was presented. Works are conducted jointly with OOO "VAIS-Technika".
    Mass ammunition, according to the developers, vary from 25 to 50 kg. The launching range is up to 100 km. As a warhead, it is assumed that small-sized combat elements will be used against MLRS missiles. The suspension device is also unified.
    Ammunition, developed in an initiative order for about three years, was recently taken for testing on one of the "big" domestic UAVs. Mainly, TSA is designed for high-precision destruction of small-sized mobile targets.

    With what, I congratulate all of us, first the "Caliber" with the X-101, then the raids of the MTR of the Russian Federation against the bandits in Syria, and now the compact SD missiles for our UAV ... Everything is grown-up!))





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    Post  Project Canada on Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:47 pm


    Guided, Glide Bombs for Combat Drones Developed for 1st Time in Russia

    According to information provided to Sputnik by a defense industry source, Russia has developed guided and glide bombs for combat drones, which are designed to carry warheads with a payload of up to 50 kilograms, for the first time.
    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – A variety of bombs for combat unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) with a payload of up to 50 kilograms (110 pounds) have been developed in Russia for the first time, a defense industry source told Sputnik Wednesday.

    "In fact, these are guided and glide bombs. Bombs with the weight of 15, 25, 50 and 100 kilograms that are designed to carry warheads with the payload of up to 50 kilograms with ranges of 12 to 20 kilometers with the engine shut off and up to 100 kilometers when using the engine," the source said.

    According to the source, the units vary anywhere from 1 to 2 meters in length, while the mass of the payload and the warhead might be 7-50 kilograms. The items are manufactured by the Aviaavtomatika joint stock company in conjunction with WiseTechnique LLC.

    The bombs are capable of changing the flight path through trajectory adjustment by radio signals, while the targeting is carried out by a laser-guiding system as well as with the use of a video-based guidance module, the source said.

    UAVs are widely used by the Russian armed forces, particularly during its operations in Syria. According the Russian military, over 14,000 missions have been carried out by Russia's combat aerial drones since the start of the military operation in Syria in 2015.
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    Re: UAVs in Russian Armed Forces: News

    Post  GarryB on Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:06 am

    Nice.

    That is good experience, plus these new weapons will make more options possible.

    I wonder if the ATGMs with command guidance like ATAKA and SHTURM would be effective from UAVs... They are high speed missiles that don't drag wires and are not that expensive.

    Would be interesting to see a large heavy high altitude UCAV with dumb bomb capacity using a modification of the Gefest & T dumb bombing system to allow the effective use of lots of small dumb bombs like the FAB-10 and FAB-20 in huge numbers...

    I guess these new glide bombs offer the same potential without having to overfly the targets and with guided weapon accuracy...


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    Post  Militarov on Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:34 pm

    Interestingly enough all boards and electronic components in Orlan-10 seem to be manufactured by Foxconn-CM, judging by close-up photos from the one that crashlanded.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:29 pm

    Wouldn't surprise me. Orlan-10 was accepted and used long before the whole sanctions debacle in 2014. And back then it was supposed to be a cheap drone for excess use and possibly loss. So it would make sense. Bigger, more sensative would have to use the more expensive Russian components as they are not in widespread manufacturing thus far more expensive. Now, I don't know what they would be using, unless they can still obtain from Foxconn China.
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    Post  kvs on Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:07 pm

    Import substitution does not mean 100% in house product purchases. It means making sure that core strategic
    industries exist in Russia that can fill of Russia's needs under critical conditions. The Foxconn components are cheap
    and do the job. They are also not compromised by backdoors for the benefit of NATO. And Russia buying these
    Chinese parts does not mean it is surrendering the capacity to produce such parts.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:36 pm

    kvs wrote:Import substitution does not mean 100% in house product purchases.  It means making sure that core strategic
    industries exist in Russia that can fill of Russia's needs under critical conditions.    The Foxconn components are cheap
    and do the job.   They are also not compromised by backdoors for the benefit of NATO.    And Russia buying these
    Chinese parts does not mean it is surrendering the capacity to produce such parts.    

    that is obvious since we all have the news and even photo/video evidence of Russia's fabrication plants and production of electronic components. But even I think it wouldn't be a bad idea of doing some JV with a Chinese or Korean company in opening up a plant in Russia to build cheap consumer electronic subcomponents and other such things. Could make it even cheaper in long run, employ a lot of specialists, and still keep money internally.

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