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    Post  Guest Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:44 am

    theking950 wrote:
    franco wrote:A look at the Outpost UAV, Russian development of the Israeli Searcher MK II ;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2354007.html

    My understanding is there will soon be 50 of these complexes, all with C3 container, radar, etc and 3 UAV's.
    why did you pay so much for this old uav if you buy buy this
    https://scontent.fhfa2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15726736_10210617908498875_7361140991391824820_n.jpg?oh=a4be35c2022e4b4a9e82ead5db486040&oe=58D8BA90
    israel heron tp 4650 take of weight 1000 kg payload

    At the moment when this was signed Russia required recon drones, as it operated virtually no drones whatsoever. And IAI Eitan is reaching into heavish attack drone category, also i am not sure how Israel would feel about selling it to Russia even back then.
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    Post  theking950 Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:31 am

    Militarov wrote:
    theking950 wrote:
    franco wrote:A look at the Outpost UAV, Russian development of the Israeli Searcher MK II ;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2354007.html

    My understanding is there will soon be 50 of these complexes, all with C3 container, radar, etc and 3 UAV's.
    why did you pay so much for this old uav if you buy buy this
    https://scontent.fhfa2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15726736_10210617908498875_7361140991391824820_n.jpg?oh=a4be35c2022e4b4a9e82ead5db486040&oe=58D8BA90
    israel heron tp 4650 take of weight 1000 kg payload

    At the moment when this was signed Russia required recon drones, as it operated virtually no drones whatsoever. And IAI Eitan is reaching into heavish attack drone category, also i am not sure how Israel would feel about selling it to Russia even back then.
    or hermes 900 is good also can atack
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xABahAVm6bA
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    Post  franco Sat Dec 31, 2016 1:47 pm

    theking950 wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    theking950 wrote:
    franco wrote:A look at the Outpost UAV, Russian development of the Israeli Searcher MK II ;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2354007.html

    My understanding is there will soon be 50 of these complexes, all with C3 container, radar, etc and 3 UAV's.
    why did you pay so much for this old uav if you buy buy this
    https://scontent.fhfa2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15726736_10210617908498875_7361140991391824820_n.jpg?oh=a4be35c2022e4b4a9e82ead5db486040&oe=58D8BA90
    israel heron tp 4650 take of weight 1000 kg payload

    At the moment when this was signed Russia required recon drones, as it operated virtually no drones whatsoever. And IAI Eitan is reaching into heavish attack drone category, also i am not sure how Israel would feel about selling it to Russia even back then.
    or hermes 900 is good also can atack
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xABahAVm6bA

    It was low tech. There was no way the Israeli's ,even if they had wanted too, was giving over attack or higher tech UAV's. The Outpost is higher tech then the Searcher but more importantly allowed the Russians to jump start their UAV development.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Jan 01, 2017 1:09 am

    The purchase was purely commercial and not every option was on the table.

    They bought the UAVs on offer for inflated prices because that was the deal.

    the performance was actually quite irrelevant... this was a chance for the Russian military to look at a mature system that they could take away and play with to formulate their own performance requirements.

    I would think just looking at they way they have operated in Syria it is pretty clear they don't operate the same way the israelis and US do so their needs and wants and requirements will be different.
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    Post  Austin Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:09 am

    Russian Heavy/Medium/Light UCAV/UAV program  ( via Pralay )


    Company Sukhoi + MiG = "Охотник / Hunter," take-off weight of 20 tons, attack, the first flight of 2018. Analogue of the X-47B


    http://bd.patent.su/2353000-2353999/pat/servl/servlet3c0b.html

    http://bd.patent.su/2353000-2353999/images/rupatimage/0/2000000/2300000/2350000/2353000/2353547.tif
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    Company Irkut aviation plant + Yak = "Прорыв / Breakthrough" (Yak-133), take-off weight of 10 tons, attack, first flight in September 2016.

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    Company "Simonov" + Kazan aviation plant = "Альтаир / Altair", take-off weight of 5 tons,Survellence scout


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    Company Myasischev + TsAGI = "Обзор-1 / Review-1", first flight 2017, analogue Global Hawk

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    Company "Kronstadt" = ..., take-off weight of 1.2 tons, scout / attack. Analogue Predator
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    Post  Flanky Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:15 pm

    I think Kronstadt have Dozor-600? But its a nice summary of all the important UAV programs in Russia.
    Fregat is another important Kronstadt project.
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    I can see this thing to be used from helipad of a ship...

    Regarding their Predator/Reaper equivalent... Its the Orion/Inokhodec UAV
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    A sidenote: Kronstadt used to be Transas - they have changed their company name but its the same group of people with all their projects...
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    Post  theking950 Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:53 am

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    russia develop 20 ton ucav?
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    Post  Guest Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:11 am

    theking950 wrote:?
    russia develop 20 ton ucav?

    There were rumors of 20 ton class UAV being derived from PAK-FA components post 2019.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:29 am

    russia develop 20 ton ucav?

    From Austins post above {Post number 612}


    Company Sukhoi + MiG = "Охотник / Hunter," take-off weight of 20 tons, attack, the first flight of 2018. Analogue of the X-47B

    http://bd.patent.su/2353000-2353999/pat/servl/servlet3c0b.html

    ...which if you can't read Russian might not make much sense... so here is a translation:

    https://translate.yandex.by/web?url=http://bd.patent.su/2353000-2353999/pat/servl/servlet3c0b.html
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    Post  Benya Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:33 am

    Russian military will receive virtual reality helmet to control UAVs Unmanned Aerial Vehicles.

    The Russian military will receive a sophisticated virtual reality (VR) helmet designed for not only watching the battlefield via the cameras carried by unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV), but also controlling the UAVs by simply turning the head or the eyes, according to the Izvestia daily newspaper.

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    A soldier controls UAV launch operations with Virtual Reality Helmet.

    The Svarog helmet developed by the Russian Defense Ministry Main Robotics Research and Test Center (GNIITs) in cooperation with Mari State University will pioneer combat VR helmets in the Russian Armed Forces.

    The VR helmet’s operating principle is simple enough. It is a small video display worn on the face and divided into two by a partition. It shows each of the eyes separate slightly offset images, thus simulating a 3D image. The device also has a set of sensors gaging the position of the eyes and the tilt of the head. This enables the helmet to simulate the reality even more accurately.

    "Now, the Svarog is in the manufacturer’s trials and will be delivered to the Defense Ministry as soon as this year," Alexei Pechkin, a researcher with Mari State University, told the Izvestia daily. "We keep on improving the helmet and experimenting with the characteristics of its lenses, but even now the screen’s resolution is twice as that of its foreign rivals, while the Svarog’s angle of view is limited by the wearer’s natural field of view alone."

    Unlike commercial VR devices and augmented reality (AR) goggles used by the NATO militaries, the Russian helmet has as many as two video displays, which made the Svarog much wider than its rivals are. Its edges protrude 10 cm away from the operator’s head. Despite the cumbersome appearance, however, the device weighs 400 g, which is a standard weight of present-day VR helmets. It is this novelty - a separate display for either eye - that ensured the - pixel resolution - a fourfold increase over the resolution of a standard PC monitor. The resolution that high enables the operator to watch the ground via the UAV’s lenses in minute detail, discerning not only tanks and fighting vehicles from high altitude, but individual troops as well.

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    The PowerUp FPV is a paper airplane drone you control with your head

    The Svarog is fit for not only aerial surveillance but for controlling drones by means of simple enough movements as well. The operator can vary the UAV’s altitude by raising or declining his head: the integral gyroscopic sensors are tracking the helmet’s tilt angle in real time and make the aircraft climb or descend depending on the input from the helmet.

    Two more sensors tracking the position of the pupils of the eyes enable the UAV operator to change the flight direction by only shifting his eyes to a point of interest - the UAV will immediately follow his gaze accordingly.

    "Using a VR device for controlling a reconnaissance unmanned aircraft features many advantages over the traditional display and joystick," Maxim Chizhov, director for business development, Intellect and Innovation Company, and a VR expert, tells the Izvestia daily. "An up-to-date VR helmet offers the UAV operator an illusion of soaring over the battlefield, with the simulation allowing quicker decision-making and more effective control of the drone at high speed."

    The expert noted that the militaries of NATO’s member countries lacked devices like that. The only place the similar gear may be found is at sports competitions of UAV operators, and even there VR helmets have been new even to the most advanced drone enthusiasts. The lack of military analogs and the high performance even in comparison with commercial VR helmets make the Svarog truly unique, Chizhov summed up in his interview with the Izvestia daily.

    Source: Arrow http://www.armyrecognition.com/weapons_defence_industry_military_technology_uk/russian_military_will_receive_virtual_reality_helmet_to_control_uavs_unmanned_aerial_vehicles_11502171.html



    Sophisticated VR helmet? A VR headset like Oculus Rift would do the job quite well. Plus I think that these drones should be operared by two soldiers, one pilots the UAV, while the other controls the surveillance camera mounted under the fuselage.

    Plus current UAVs of the Russian Army (like "Takhion", "Leer-3" or even "Orlan-10") can be easily retrofitted to be able to used with VR helmets/headsets.
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    Post  George1 Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:19 am

    Satellite image of the Russian unmanned aerial vehicle "Orion"

    As reported by March 1, 2017 the agency RIA Novosti, the image of the Russian aircraft have never been published, for the first time got on satellite images on Terraserver.com resource.

    The device is embodied on a taxiway Gromov Flight Research Institute in Moscow. Russian expert in the field of unmanned systems Denis Fedutinov told RIA Novosti that the photograph shows, presumably, the new Russian UAV "Orion".

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    "This is the most likely option, based on the dimensions and configuration of the aircraft, as well as information about the mind that at this time in LII airfield began tests of the UAV" - said the expert.

    According to him, the appearance of the UAV on satellite images different from what was shown at the exhibition, including the Moscow Air Show MAKS. Earlier, in 2013-2015, company shows the layout of UAVs, made by two-beam scheme with a high wing with the tail in the form of an inverted V.

    Caught on the photo machine is a device more like an American UAV Reaper - sredneplan with high aspect ratio wing, V-shaped tail and located in the rear part of the engine with pusher propeller.

    RIA Novosti news agency at the beginning of May 2016 reported about the beginning of UAV test, citing its own sources.

    Work on the creation of UAVs "Orion" in the framework of research and development work (R & D) "pacer" is part of the AFC "System" Company "Kronstadt" (until 2015 was called the "Transas"). Generated UAV is classified as medium-long duration flight vehicles. It is assumed that the maximum duration of the flight is not less than 24 hours, and the ceiling - about 8000 meters.

    In October 2011, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation signed an agreement with the St. Petersburg company "Transas" contract to carry out development work. According to the former vice-president of the group of companies "Transas" Victor Godunov, the project is expected to build a reconnaissance UAV weighing about 1 ton. In 2015, at the MAKS 2015 the former president "Transas" Group Nikolai Lebedev adjusted data on certain characteristics - UAV takeoff weight increased to 1200 kg, the mass of the payload was 300 kg.

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    Post  theking950 Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:59 am

    https://www.aviaport.ru/digest/2017/03/17/428085.html
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    Post  George1 Thu May 04, 2017 12:06 am

    Russian UAVs in Syria

    During the war with Georgia in 2008, the Russian forces had only a few UAV systems in service; all of them were cumbersome, primitive, and obsolete. During the post-war analysis, their performance was deemed totally inadequate because they failed to meet modern technical requirements. As part of the sweeping military reforms launched shortly after the conflict, the existing drones were retired, and the MoD placed orders for hundreds of new ones. As of late 2015 (i.e. when Russia was already involved in Syria), its Armed Forces operated a total of 1,720 UAVs. In 2016, they received an additional 105 UAV complexes with 260 individual drones.

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    Russian UAV "Eleron-3SV", crashed in Syria because of technical problems, Latakia, 07.20.2015 (c)

    As of the spring of 2016, Russia had 30 UAV complexes (70 individual drones) deployed in Syria. In December 2016 it was reported that another three complexes (consisting of six to nine drones) had been brought to Syria to monitor compliance with the ceasefire agreed between the government and the rebels.

    The Russian UAV fleet deployed in Syria included systems operated by the UAV companies of brigade and division-level Army units. Additionally, Russia deployed several Orlan-10 and Forpost drones (the latter being the Russian version of the Searcher Mk II drone developed by Israel’s IAI) that are operated by Navy units established in 2013. The involvement of the Navy is easily explained by the fact that it operated six or the 10 Forpost complexes (three drones per complex) that the Russian forces had at the time, and the Forpost is the only Russian drone that approaches the capability of the MALE (medium altitude, long endurance) class of UAVs. All the remaining Russian drones (almost 2,000 of them, as of the time of writing) have a take-off weight of no more than 30kg, and are vastly inferior to the Forpost in terms of the payload.

    The joint command of the Russian forces in Syria has managed to ensure proper coordination between the use of drones operated by the Army and the Navy. For example, the naval drones were used to support operations by the Russian Air Force and the Russian and allied land forces in Syria (in addition to the Navy’s own operations).

    Interestingly, there have been few, if any reports from Syria about the use of Russia’s lightest short-range tactical UAVs, which are used by troops at or near the front line. This does not mean that the Russian forces completely lack such drones – it rather confirms that the use of the Russian land forces in Syria remains limited.

    Apart from the Forpost, the Russian UAV model that has seen the most action in Syria is the Orlan-10. Such a conclusion is based on the available photo imagery and video footage from Syria; videos from UAV cameras released by the Russian MoD; and from reports on the Russian losses in Syria. The widespread use of the Orlan-10 is unsurprising because it makes up about a third of the entire Russian UAV fleet.

    In fact, the Orlan-10 specifications largely determine the reconnaissance capability of the Russian forces in Syria. These specifications aren’t too bad, given the system’s take-off weight of just 18kg. The drone can carry up to 5kg of payload such as stabilized day- and night-vision cameras and electronic warfare devices. Even a small drone can transmit live video from up to 120km away, and stay aloft for 14 hours at an altitude of up to 5,000 meters. The effective range of video transmission can be increased further by using another Orlan-10 as an airborne relay station. The drone can also record footage up to 600km from the ground control station in the offline mode.

    The drone’s propulsion unit is an internal combustion engine that takes regular gas. It takes off using a simple collapsible catapult, and lands with the help of a parachute, so it does not need a landing strip and can be operated from pretty much anywhere. When dismantled and packed up for transportation, the entire drone, along with its team of operators, can all fit into a single car. As a result, the Orlan-10 is affordable and cheap to operate. A set that includes two drones, the ground control station, the payload, the various accessories, and the light vehicle that carries it all costs the Russian MoD 35m roubles (600,000 dollars), so it has been procured and supplied to the Russian forces in large numbers, and relatively quickly.

    The availability of numerous drones with a range of over 100km has enabled the Russian forces in Syria to deploy them in every part of the country where the government is fighting the ISIS forces and other rebels. There have often been several Russian drones aloft at the same time.

    For example, during the first Russian missile strike using Kalibr cruise missiles launched from RNS Rostov-on-Don (a Project 06363 large diesel-electric submarine) on December 8, 2015, UAVs simultaneously observed the launch of four missiles from a submerged position, part of their flight to targets, and all three of the targets. That required the simultaneous use of at least four or five drones.

    The primary roles in which Russian drones are used in Syria include reconnoitering targets for airstrikes, assessing the results of those strikes, and serving as airborne spotters for the Syrian artillery. In fact, artillery spotting is one of the main roles in which drones are used across the Russian armed forces. There are numerous videos of barrel and rocket artillery strikes in Syria recorded from UAVs.

    The Soviet Army had practically no proper means of real-time aerial artillery spotting. Russia had no such means at all, until modern UAVs arrived. At this stage, however, the Russian forces have aerial spotting capability for all types of artillery, including the Smerch long-range MLR systems, and for sub-strategic missiles. The Orlan-10 and Forpost software is well-suited for that role, and both drones can be integrated with automated artillery fire control systems. Lighter UAVs are less capable, and can be used mostly for mortar spotting.

    The Russian Army still remains heavily reliant on artillery, so the use of drones can substantially augment its firepower. We do not know whether UAVs have been used for target designation with guided artillery projectiles, but Russian programs to develop that capability have already reached the trial phase.

    The vast majority of the missions involving the heavier Forpost drones, which are equipped with powerful optics, were to observe and monitor strikes against top-priority targets from medium altitudes and distances, thereby remaining undetected by the enemy. The same usage scenario is not always possible with the lighter drones, which have to approach the target more closely for effective surveillance.

    Other missions included collecting aerial imagery and 3D-mapping in support of humanitarian convoys and S&R operations. For example, when the wreckage of the Russian Su-24M2 bomber shot down by a Turkish fighter jet fell to earth in a mountainous area near the Turkish border, the surviving member of the crew was quickly located with the help of an Orlan-10 drone, making it possible to extract him from rebel-held territory. The crew that piloted the drone later received medals for their crucial role in the S&R operation.

    The Russian UAVs deployed in Syria were initially stationed at the Khmeimim airbase in Latakia Province. As the scope of the Russian involvement grew, some of them were moved to other bases across the country. The combined units that operate the Forposts require a runway, so they are usually stationed at airfields. During the offensive to retake eastern Aleppo from the rebels in August 2016, one of those units was deployed at Aleppo international airport. Another Russian unit operating UAVs was stationed at the T-4 airbase near Palmyra; its drones were used against ISIS. The deployment of drones near the front line has enabled the Russian forces to launch missions more quickly and to increase the drones’ airborne time in the target area.

    On the whole, the use of Russian reconnaissance drones in Syria has been judged a success. Nevertheless, the campaign has highlighted one critical flaw: the Russian forces don’t have any attack drones – unlike not only the U.S.-led coalition, but also the Israelis, the Iranians, and the Turks, who all have medium-class attack drones in the Syrian theater. Even the ISIS terrorists have cobbled together ultralight attack drones, used as bombers, from off-the-shelf components.

    Russian engineers are currently experimenting with the use of remotely controlled containers attached to the Orlan-10 drones; if necessary, these can be used for weapons delivery. But the maximum payload of the Orlan-10 is only 5kg, so these drones are ill-suited for such roles. We don’t have any reliable information as to whether these experimental prototypes have been used by the Russian forces in Syria.

    The Russian MoD commissioned the development of medium and heavy UAVs back in 2011, but these programs are still far from fruition. Work is under way to develop drones with a take-off weight of 1-2 metric tonnes and 5 tonnes. Their prototypes have already begun flight testing, but without any weapons payloads. The Russian defense industry is also developing a 20-tonne UAV, but that program is making even slower progress and has not even reached the flight testing phase.

    It can be hoped that the experience gained in Syria with reconnaissance drones will help the Russian forces to make better use of attack UAVs once they have entered production. These UAVs will be integrated with the already existing extensive infrastructure for this type of weaponry, enabling Russia to narrow the gap in UAV technology with the world’s leading military powers.

    Like all the other users of military drones, the Russian government was happy do discover that the loss of these drones on the battlefield doesn’t make headlines or cause any problems with public opinion. The Russian forces are known to have lost at least 10 UAVs during the campaign in Syria – but that has gone almost unnoticed in Russia itself. Besides, the drones are easily replaced; they are only a part of the larger complex that enables their operation.

    The first Russian drone was lost in Syria on July 20, 2015, two months before the official launch of the Russian campaign there. It was an Eleron-3SV, operated by the Army; the drone was shot down in a mountainous area in Latakia. The Eleron-3SV is a light tactical UAV. Used by units deployed on the front line, it has a maximum range of 15km. It is not clear whether the drone shot down in Latakia was operated by a Russian crew; it may have been supplied to the Syrian forces. So far, however, there have been no reports about any Russian drones being supplied to Syrian government troops or their allies.

    At about the same time, the Russian forces lost another drone in Syria. Its specific model is unknown, but judging from the payload it was carrying, the drone was being used for 3D mapping of the area, perhaps in preparation for future airstrikes.

    A similar Russian drone was shot down by the Turkish Air Force as it strayed into Turkish airspace from Latakia Province on October 16, 2015, which is after the official launch of the Russian campaign. Even though the UAV had the same livery and side marks as other Russian military drones, we have been unable to identify its model; it may have been a specialized model or an experimental prototype.

    Another piece of evidence pointing to the use of experimental UAVs in Syria is several reports suggesting that one of the Russian drones deployed in that country uses hydrogen fuel. The unit is merely a prototype and is not yet ready for entry into service. Nevertheless, it is unlikely that it would have been field-tested in Syria if the MoD had not shown interest. Also, in October 2016 rebel forces found a Russian Ptero drone in Latakia province. The unit seemed to have emergency-landed itself and did not appear damaged. The Ptero is not officially in service with the Russian armed forces; it is a commercially-available drone used for aerial imaging.

    All the other Russian drones lost in Syria are well-known reconnaissance models widely used by the Russian forces. In most cases, the lost units showed no signs of combat damage, i.e. holes torn by bullets or shrapnel. Some of them were damaged by impact with the ground, while others appeared completely undamaged. This suggests that many of the lost drones had suffered a mechanical failure (usually problems with the engine or avionics). Most of the Orlan-10 units lost in Syria had obvious signs of wear and field repairs, pointing to their heavy use. It is known that some of them were many times over their nominal lifespan of 100 flights.

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    UAVs remain a relatively new and untried technology for the Russian armed forces. Their deliveries in large numbers began as recently as 2013-2014. The Russian campaign in Syria, which has been ongoing for more than 18 months, has demonstrated that this military technology is critically important. Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoygu has described UAVs as “indispensable in modern conflicts”.

    The experience earned in Syria may facilitate the development of the second generation of Russian reconnaissance drones and spur the arrival of attack drones, from light tactical models to heavy units weighing up to 20 tonnes. The supplier of the Forpost has already announced an updated version with improved characteristics and a greater degree of localization. This should end the company’s dependence on components imported from Israel and enable it to increase output. Additionally, the MoD is currently selecting new models to plug the gap between the Forpost, which has a take-off weight of 450kg, and the 18-30kg tactical drones.

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    Post  Austin Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:34 pm

    Russia and Iran Cooperate on UAVs, UCAVs
    by Vladimir Karnozov
    - June 15, 2017, 9:48 AM

    http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2017-06-15/russia-and-iran-cooperate-uavs-ucavs

    Iran is sharing its experience of operating UAVs with Russia, including three years of operations over Iraq and Syria. The cooperation started in October 2013, when Russian air force commander Gen. Victor Bondarev visited Tehran and was presented with a local copy of the Scan Eagle UAV. Both Iran and Russia have operated small UAVs over Syria, but a new dimension to Iran’s activities there became apparent on June 8, when a U.S. Air Force F-15E shot down an Iranian-made UAV “similar in size to the MQ-1 Predator.”

    This medium-altitude long-endurance (MALE) vehicle was later identified as a Shahed 129 UCAV. Operated by Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corp (IRGC), the drone had attacked Syrian rebels operating around At-Tanf who are trained and supported by the U.S. The Shahad 129 has a claimed range of 1,700 km and a 24-hour endurance, and can carry various air-launch munitions including guided missiles. It was not the first Iranian UAV to be shot down by rebel fire, but all previous incidents involved relatively small and inexpensive Ababil and Mohajer series drones for close-in tactical reconnaissance and surveillance.

    The Russian expeditionary forces in Syria are also operating a total of 80 small UAVs, such as the Orlan-10, Granat, Eleron, Zala-426-16 and Forpost (which is a licensed copy of the IAI Searcher Mk.2). Some time after Bondarev’s visit to Tehran, the Russian MoD stated that Iranian drones, along with those from Israel (IAI Bird Eye-400, I-View Mk150 and the like acquired in 2012), were being used for evaluation and for the training of Russian UAV operators. Recently, Russian media has reported the testing of a United 40 Block 5 UCAV with claimed 100-hour endurance that was acquired from the UAE’s Adcom Systems.


    Although there is no information on whether Moscow has acquired any MALE UCAVs from Tehran, practical experience of operating such equipment, especially in a war zone, is of great interest to the Russian military and industry as they are in the early phase of testing new drone types.

    No UCAVs are known to have entered service with the Russian military yet. RAC MiG demonstrated the Skat UCAV back in 2009, but the Russian MoD opted for proposals from other makers. In 2011 the ministry awarded contracts. Last year, Gromov’s Flight Test and Research Institute (local acronym LII) began flight trials of the Orion made by RET Kronshtadt. It has a gross weight of just over one tonne. Also undergoing testing is the five-tonne Altius-M developed by Sokol design bureau.

    Deputy defense minister, procurement, Yuri Borisov said that four Russian UCAV projects “that solve their tasks in tactical, operative and strategic depth” are nearing completion, while “we have closed down several other projects.”

    The Sukhoi design bureau has been working on heavyweight UAVs, including one with an mtow of 20 tonnes that is expected to fly next year. The Yakovlev design bureau is developing a pilotless version of the Yak-130 armed trainer.

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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:44 pm

    4 UCAV projects? Why so many?

    Anyway, good to hear that they are nearly complete. Interesting that they are using Iranian and UAE Drones for experience. Always good to learn and be prepared for when your own drones are ready.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:17 am

    Different roles for different services would require very different properties... ie for naval missions long flight range and long flight time is useful, whereas many on land missions also have value in range and loiter time, but might also have speed requirements too... which will effect range and loiter time.

    It would not surprise me if one of those four types was a type mentioned quite some time ago that was a fairly large UAV designed to fly transport missions to deliver food and weapons and ammo and equipment and water to forward deployed special forces... basically the main UAV flew to within a few kilometres of the landing target area and released a glider from high altitude so the enemy was less likely to realise there is a unit being resupplied... it would of course be done at night where possible and the glider component was silent and guided to a very specific point on the ground.

    Such a design would not be that useful for other roles, so would be rather unique.

    The Russian military has dozens of UAVs in service already and they have requirements for many more types I would suspect... from hand held, through to thousand ton airships with massive radar arrays.
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    Post  theking950 Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:07 pm

    you need some thing like peredetor c the avenger
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:37 pm

    theking950 wrote: you need some thing like peredetor c the avenger
    or x47 b

    Orion, Altus, Sukhoi UCAV...

    Worry not, they are coming along
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    Post  theking950 Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:04 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    theking950 wrote: you need some thing like peredetor c the avenger
    or x47 b

    Orion, Altus, Sukhoi UCAV...

    Worry not, they are coming along
    Sukhoi UCAV i saw it canceld
    and altus is not the same level orion more detalis?
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:41 pm

    theking950 wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    theking950 wrote: you need some thing like peredetor c the avenger
    or x47 b

    Orion, Altus, Sukhoi UCAV...

    Worry not, they are coming along
    Sukhoi UCAV i saw it canceld
    and altus is not the same level orion more detalis?

    Sukhoi UCAV is most definitely not cancelled

    Orion is similar to Predator, look it up in this tread, there is a photo

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