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    Re: UAVs in Russian Armed Forces: News

    Post  GarryB on Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:36 am

    I thought that might be the case to initially but on examining the specs the 20 ton aircraft has roughly four times more engine power... with two 52Kn engines compared with on 24Kn engine for the 5 ton aircraft with a similar flight speed, and the range for the 5 ton aircraft seems rather short...

    In fact 5 ton TOW, 1 ton payload, 1,000km range (suspect radius) and 1,000km/h flight speed I am thinking a small SKAT light bomber to fly in to enemy territory and drop a few LGBs or satellite guided bombs or glide bombs and then return home... Such short range and relatively high flight speed... ie at near top speed one hours endurance... ok for attack drone but limited for recon asset.

    I suspect the figures are correct but there is another platform... perhaps Skat in the 10 ton class with maybe a 2.5 tp 3 ton payload?

    I am looking forward to finding out.


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    Post  Militarov on Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:20 pm

    If i recall they said Sukho is to build 20t class UCAV on PAK-FA borts.
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    Post  sepheronx on Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:30 pm

    Is that by their own initiative? Cause I thought Sukhoi didn't win any tenders for their UAV programs?

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    Post  Austin on Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:22 pm

    has any one got access to this full Janes Article by Piotr Butowski

    Russia's UAC developing three heavy UAVs
    http://www.janes.com/article/59271/russia-s-uac-developing-three-heavy-uavs
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    Post  Militarov on Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:00 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Is that by their own initiative? Cause I thought Sukhoi didn't win any tenders for their UAV programs?

    Most likely their own initiative, but that is anyways still proposed project from what i am aware, not fully funded or supported.

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    Post  jaguar_br on Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:08 pm

    Austin wrote:has any one got access to this full Janes Article by Piotr Butowski

    Russia's UAC developing three heavy UAVs
    http://www.janes.com/article/59271/russia-s-uac-developing-three-heavy-uavs

    Nice... so acording to the new, there are in development three UAV classes, being 3, 5 and 10 ton.

    One of these is "already made", I suppose it is the Altius-M (5 ton class). The 3 tons one might be the Myasishchev "overview-1", seemingly equivalent to RQ-17 Sentinel.
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    Post  Militarov on Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:03 pm

    So appears that Russians are planning to buy another 30 Forpost sets for RuAF, which is 90 drones in total during period of 5 years.



    Source: http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20160407/1404339509.html
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    Post  Militarov on Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:54 am

    "Washington vetoes on sale of Israeli-made unmanned air vehicles to Russia. The latter also encompasses locally assembly agreements. Moscow has previously purchased 10 «Searcher 2» and 30 «BirdEye-450» UAVs from Israel Aerospace Industries.



    Russia has adopted the IAI “Searcher” UAV and manufactures this Israeli product under license as the “Forpost”, based on a subsequent production design designated as “Searcher II” which is an improved Second Generation model introduced by IAI in 1998.

    “Forpost” and «BirdEye-450» UAV are manufactured by Russian company JSC “Ural Works of Civil Aviation”.


    Source: http://defence-blog.com/news/washington-vetoes-ban-on-sale-of-israeli-made-unmanned-air-vehicles-to-russia.html
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:36 am

    This is probably a good thing... if they are cutting off Ukraine they might as well cut off Israel too.

    They have all the production equipment and plans.... I am sure they can improve certain areas and features to their own needs... now is an opportunity.


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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:52 am

    ... I don't exactly think that the US can stop Israel from collaborating with Russia. It's just too big and there's way too many opportunities with the Russian/Soviet Israeli community. Furthermore, most of the heavy lifting that Israel does regards tactical low level UAV's. And there's always eager 3rd parties, like ROK.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:02 am

    Militarov wrote:If i recall they said Sukho is to build 20t class UCAV on PAK-FA borts.
    Okhotnik-Y AFAIK, was to use "elements  and solutions" of PAK FA not hull directly.


    KRET´s vision of heavy drone, is this the one?




    2 interesting articles from last year below.


    http://www.uasvision.com/2015/08/27/is-russia-developing-an-f-35-hunting-uav/
    Russia could be working on a low-observable, F-35-hunting unmanned air vehicle that uses deeply-integrated electronic warfare systems to stay hidden from radars. The tip-off comes from electronic systems producer KRET, which has a curious UAV model on display at the MAKS air show in Moscow.

    According to the company’s first deputy chief executive officer Vladimir Mikheev, this aircraft model is more than just a sleek promotional display – it is an advanced military UAV being developed by the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC).

    Concern Radio-Electronic Technologies (KRET) is a subcontractor on the project, he says, providing the fundamental communications, radar, electronic warfare and self-protection systems, as well as the ground control station.

    Speaking via a translator, Mikheev tells Flightglobal that the company is involved with two military UAV projects – one in development and one in the concept phase – but both ventures of UAC.

    He declines to name the project and does not say which UAC design bureau is in charge, but confirms some of its key capabilities.

    Mikheev says the UAV has been designed to detect stealth aircraft in the same vein as China’s ambitious “Divine Eagle” project, which he claims is based on technology “borrowed” from Russia and the USA.

    Such aircraft aim to detect low-observable US combat aircraft using X-band and UHF radars, specifically the Lockheed Martin F-22 and F-35 and Northrop Grumman B-2. But airborne surveillance is just one of the UAV’s capabilities.

    Mikheev says KRET is providing a deeply-integrated electronic warfare system that not only provides a protective electromagnetic sphere around the aircraft to counter air-to-air missiles, but also cloaks it from radars.

    The unmanned aircraft closely resembles Northrop’s carrier-based X-47B demonstrator, but adds two lift fans on each wing and vertical stabilisers.

    Mikheev says the UAV’s avionics, radar and electronic warfare systems are derived from those being produced for the Sukhoi Su-35 multirole fighter and the Kamov Ka-50 attack helicopter. KRET is also deeply involved in the Sukhoi T-50/PAK FA fighter project.

    In an article published on KRET’s website on 2 August, Mikheev says Russia has been competing with the USA in the realm of electronic warfare “for our entire lives”, and about five years ago the company decided it needed to bring in the next-era of electronic warfare systems.

    “Today we are talking about 15% to 20% annual growth in the direction of electronic warfare systems,” he says.

    It remains to be seen whether this UAV project is just marketing or a mature development programme with similar goals to China’s Divine Eagle UAV. It would come as the stealthy F-35 enters serve as the West’s primary “first-day-of-war” combat jet.





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    Media: In Russia will create new UACVs
    Level of translation - don´t shoot me oki? I am justa piano guy  :d

    Aviation holding company "Sukhoi" and "Experimental design Bureau named after M. P. Simonov" are engaged in the development of shock unmanned aerial objects "Hunter-U" and "the Apple" (the eye/pupil  - for me Very Happy) , reports RIA Novosti.

    New drones will be classified as aircraft medium and long range. And the fact that they will "shock" sensation, because at the moment in the Russian army, there are only reconnaissance UAVS.

    "At present the design Bureau Simonov conducts development work on the creation of shock drone medium-range "the Apple" at a speed of 800 kilometers per hour. Parallel to this, a "Dry" shock develops UAV long range with the same speed "Hunter-Y", - said a source from oboronno-industrial complex.

    Previously it is known that "Apple" will be designed based on the project UAV Tu-143 "Flight". This drone was developed in the early 70-ies of the last century, but, despite his advanced age, this project remains relevant to this day. The launch of the "Eye" will be carried out with manned aircraft.

    "Hunter" will, apparently, be a "flying saucer" that runs with the land. Takeoff weight of this miracle-weapon - a fantastic near 20 tons, and the first prototypes should appear before 2020.
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    Re: UAVs in Russian Armed Forces: News

    Post  Militarov on Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:14 am

    GarryB wrote:This is probably a good thing... if they are cutting off Ukraine they might as well cut off Israel too.

    They have all the production equipment and plans.... I am sure they can improve certain areas and features to their own needs... now is an opportunity.

    Yeah but Russia still could use technological imput from Israel. Israelis are after all leaders in this field, with 40 years long experience.

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    Post  Militarov on Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:18 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:... I don't exactly think that the US can stop Israel from collaborating with Russia. It's just too big and there's way too many opportunities with the Russian/Soviet Israeli community. Furthermore, most of the heavy lifting that Israel does regards tactical low level UAV's. And there's always eager 3rd parties, like ROK.

    I think US has power over Israel on this one due to fact certain key components are being fabricated in the US. So they can use it as bargain chip.

    ROK is also big customer of Israeli drones.
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    Post  George1 on Fri Apr 29, 2016 12:36 pm

    Russia Begins Flight Tests of UAE-Made United 40 Military Drone

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160429/1038820010/united-40-drone-russia.html#ixzz47DMkqSws


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    Post  Militarov on Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:00 pm

    George1 wrote:Russia Begins Flight Tests of UAE-Made United 40 Military Drone

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160429/1038820010/united-40-drone-russia.html#ixzz47DMkqSws

    Finally after years since they said they would.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue May 10, 2016 10:41 am






    The flight model of the drone "Frigate" was successfully tested


    http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20160510/1430323408.html

    AMMAN, may 10 — RIA Novosti. The flight model of UAV-based besaratinia Fregat was successfully tested, confirming a number of underlying characteristics, said RIA Novosti on Tuesday during an arms exhibition SOFEX-2016, a representative of the developer blah BLAH Group "Kronstadt".
    Project UAV "Frigate" was first presented at the MAKS-2015 in Zhukovsky. According to the technical scheme, it will combine the versatility of vertical take-off and landing flight characteristics of aircraft of a scheme that makes it possible to operate UAVS in areas with poor infrastructure at great distances from the places of deployment.
    "We have proposed aerodynamic configuration of the aircraft with rotating fan propulsion, aimed primarily at achieving a large flight distance (2-3 times beyond the range of modern helicopters) and high speed (not less than 500 kilometers per hour). Created the flying model and carried out its flight tests, which confirmed the fundamental feasibility of high-speed flight with vertical takeoff and landing", — said the Agency interlocutor.
    It is expected that the Frigate will be capable to carry up to 1700 kilograms useful load at takeoff "airplane" and up to one ton — during helicopter takeoff. The maximum altitude will be 8 thousand metres, expected duration around 10 hours. UAVS will perform a wide range of applications, from air monitoring to operational delivery










    And here more in Bastion-Karpenko
    http://bastion-karpenko.ru/fregat-bla/
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    Post  Project Canada on Fri May 13, 2016 9:37 pm

    I was expecting the "Frigate" to be larger than its actual size.,


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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri May 13, 2016 10:18 pm

    Project Canada wrote:I was expecting the "Frigate" to be larger than its actual size.,


    It's a testbed version, real thing will be full size.

    RT skimps on details as usual...
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    Post  Militarov on Fri May 13, 2016 10:20 pm

    Project Canada wrote:I was expecting the "Frigate" to be larger than its actual size.,



    Its flying model only from what i understood
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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri May 13, 2016 10:20 pm


    Check the poster: "Wingspan 19 meters, length 10 meters"
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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri May 13, 2016 10:23 pm


    Speaking of this company (Transas):

    Russia Starts Flight Tests of 'Orion' Reconnaissance Drone

    Russia has started testing its "Orion" reconnaissance drone, a source in the military defense sector told RIA Novosti Friday.

    http://sputniknews.com/military/20160513/1039579546/russia-flights-orion-drone.html

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – The expected flight endurance of the “Orion” is at least 24 hours, while the altitude – about five miles. The drone will also carry a pay load of up to 660 pounds.

    “At the Gromov Flight Research Institute [in the Moscow Region] tests of the medium altitude long endurance unmanned aerial vehicle ‘Orion’ have started,” the source said.

    The Russian Defense Ministry signed a contract for the development of the drone with the Russian Kronshtadt company, formerly known as Transas, in October 2016.

    Transas initially planned that the drone would weigh about a metric ton but at the MAKS-2015 air show the company's chairman, Nikolai Lebedev, announced the take-off weight had been increased by more than 400 pounds.


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    Post  zg18 on Fri May 13, 2016 11:09 pm

    Russia: New ‘Frigate’ drone unveiled in Moscow

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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat May 14, 2016 1:57 am


    Orion UCAV render for reference:




    Info:

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1899626.html
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    Post  Flanky on Sun May 22, 2016 12:45 am

    Finally we are seeing some fruits of long UAV develpments in Russia. Keep them comming...
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    Post  Militarov on Wed Jun 08, 2016 3:36 pm

    "The Simonov Design Bureau, Russia’s sole developer of heavy unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) for Arctic applications, will organize its own production of engines in 2017, design bureau spokesman Niyaz Tagirov told TASS. Engines that will be manufactured by the Simonov Design Bureau (formerly known as the Sokol Design Bureau) will be mounted on aircraft designed for the Russian Defense Ministry, the spokesman added.

    "We have already completed the building’s construction, purchased equipment and are currently adjusting production facilities," Tagirov said. "We are organizing the local production of engines for our needs to mount them on military unmanned aerial vehicles," the spokesman said."Prototype engines are planned to be manufactured in 2017," he added.

    As Tagirov said, a prototype heavy unmanned aerial vehicle with a foreign-made engine is currently undergoing design trials.

    "The serial production of the military unmanned aerial vehicle is planned to start in 2020. By that time, we will have the sufficient level of engine local production ," the spokesman said.

    According to Tagirov, the work to develop the unmanned aerial vehicle for the Russian Defense Ministry is on schedule.

    At the same time, the Simonov Design Bureau is developing a civil unmanned aerial vehicle for Arctic applications on its own initiative. "The unmanned aerial vehicle can be used for civil applications to monitor ice conditions, map the sea bottom and ensure communications in the extreme North," Tagirov said.

    According to him, the unmanned aerial vehicle can be also used to transport cargo as its cargo-carrying capacity equals two tons.

    "The Simonov Design Bureau started developing a heavy unmanned aerial vehicle in 2014. The unmanned aerial vehicle is designed to accomplish combat missions in the Arctic," the spokesman said. "According to the technical specifications, the unmanned aerial vehicle with a weight of five tons should have an unrefueled range of 10,000 kilometers [6,214 miles], loiter for no less than 48 hours and climb to an altitude of up to 12,000 meters," he added."


    Source: http://www.armyrecognition.com/june_2016_global_defense_security_news_industry/simonov_design_bureau_from_russia_to_develop_heavy_unmanned_aerial_vehicles_for_arctic_region_10806161.html

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