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    Russia creates new mega-powerful ballistic missile

    Post  ahmedfire on Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:11 pm


    Russia creates new mega-powerful ballistic missile. 45073.jpegRussia's Defense Ministry reported about the progress in the domestic missile industry. First and foremost, the first missile regiment has been rearmed completely with state-of-the-art Yars mobile missile systems. Secondly, Russian engineers have developed Liner sea-based strategic missile. The new missile is said to be twice as more powerful as the Bulava missile, which had a number of failures during test-launches.

    Officials from the ministry said that the first missile regiment armed with latest Yars missile complexes was on full duty. The complexes are equipped with RS-24 thermonuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles. The missile was developed by engineers of the Moscow Institute of Thermal Technology under the guidance of academician Yuri Solomonov. The missile has been created with the use of technological solutions used in Topol-M systems, which significantly shortened the terms and costs of the production.

    The new missile will strengthen the combat capacity of Russian missile troops, as well as the nuclear deterrence potential of Russian strategic nuclear forces. The RS-24 missile will replace the outdated RS-18 and RS-20 ballistic missiles as their service terms are drawing to an end. In the future, Yars and Topol-M missile systems will make the basis of the strike force of Russian missile troops.

    The missiles are capable of breaking through any air defense system during the upcoming 15-20 years, Sergei Karakayev, the commander of the Russian missile troops said. This remark is especially important against the background of the current dispute between Moscow and Washington regarding the creation of the missile defense system in Europe.

    The sea-based Liner strategic missile, the tests of which started successfully with the launch on May 20, is capable of carrying from nine to twelve warheads. Thus, Liner is more powerful than Bulava, specialists of Makeyev's State Missile Center said.

    The Bulava missile can carry only six low power class warheads, whereas the Liner is capable of carrying 1.5-2 times more. Engineers also said that the Liner missile can be equipped with warheads of different power classes.

    The Liner missile surpasses all modern solid-fuel strategic missiles of Britain, China, Russia, the USA and France. The military equipment of the missile (four medium power class warheads) is comparable to the US Trident-2 (also four warheads).

    Sineva and Liner complexes will guarantee the existence of the group of 667BDRM project submarines for 35-40 years, i.e. till 2025-2030.

    It is worthy of note that Russia's Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov approved the start of the serial production of Bulava missiles in the beginning of July. The missiles are to be deployed on board Yuri Dolgoruky submarines. The Yuri Dolgoruky sub performed a successful launch of the Bulava missile at the end of June. The Bulava will make the basis of the perspective group of strategic nuclear forces of Russia before 2040-2045

    http://english.pravda.ru/russia/economics/09-08-2011/118691-ballistic_missile_russia-0/

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    Re: RS-24 'Yars' (SS-29)

    Post  Pervius on Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:36 pm

    There is speculation that it is an upgraded Sineva missile:

    http://www.informationdissemination.net/2011/05/russias-new-secret-ballistic-missile.html

    Did Russia ever create a "Rods from God" program to fire kinetic kill rods from Space?





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    Re: RS-24 'Yars' (SS-29)

    Post  GarryB on Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:23 am

    I have heard Liner is just another upgrade for Sineva.

    Regarding kinetic kill rods from space... I rather doubt it.

    If the Russians want to kill you with an ICBM I rather doubt they will want to spare your neighbours.

    Besides I rather think they will believe such a weapon could be very destabilising as its use could be mistaken for a nuclear launch.

    Of course having said that the MARV warheads they have developed to evade ABM could have the nuclear warhead replaced with a rod of DU very easily.

    Yars is the RS-24 which is a modified TOPOL-M with a larger warhead payload.
    AFAIK there is a new replacement for the SATAN that will actually be a large and powerful weapon.

    START II actually banned heavy ICBMs but it was never fully operational as the Russians ratified it but the US didn't so neither side was bound by it.

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    Re: RS-24 'Yars' (SS-29)

    Post  Pervius on Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:41 pm

    US "Rods of God" program was to use a satellite to fire mere rods of metal for precision strike of objects.


    Like a very small meteorite hitting the Earth at hyper velocity. No explosives.

    But you could hit your enemies nuclear reactor and cause bad things to happen. Or their weapons bunker.

    By itself it's just a rod of metal. It was a theory, I don't know if they ever made it. Or if it was scientifically possible to guide the metal rod after re-entry.

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    Re: RS-24 'Yars' (SS-29)

    Post  Gagydza on Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:01 am

    GarryB wrote:
    AFAIK there is a new replacement for the SATAN that will actually be a large and powerful weapon.
    There is no complete performance specification for the missile, but it is expected that it's going to be even heavier than SS-18.

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    RS 24 -(Yars)

    Post  Russian Patriot on Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:47 pm




    Russia to deploy 2nd Yars ballistic missile regiment by yearend
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    20:52 26/09/2011
    MOSCOW, September 26 (RIA Novosti)

    A second regiment equipped with Yars mobile ballistic missile systems will be put on combat duty in central Russia by the end of 2011, Strategic Missile Forces (SMF) commander Lt. Gen. Sergei Karakayev said on Monday.

    The Yars missile system is armed with the RS-24 intercontinental ballistic missile that has considerably better combat and operational capabilities than the Topol-M (SS-27 Stalin). Russia fully deployed the first Yars regiment consisting of three battalions in August 2011.

    "The second regiment equipped with Yars mobile systems will be put on combat duty with the Teikovo missile division [in the Ivanovo region] by the end of 2011," Karakayev said.

    The SMF said in August that the Topol-M and RS-24 missiles would be the mainstay of the ground-based component of Russia's nuclear triad and would account for no less than 80% of the SMF's arsenal by 2016.

    The RS-24 is a new-generation intercontinental ballistic missile capable of carrying multiple warheads, while Topol-M is a single-warhead missile.

    As of August 2011, the SMF operated at least 50 silo-based and 18 road-mobile Topol-M missile systems, and nine RS-24 systems.

    http://www.en.ria.ru/mlitary_news/20110926/167153127.html


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    Re: RS-24 'Yars' (SS-29)

    Post  Russian Patriot on Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:51 pm




    Russia's Yars ballistic missile fails test launch

    Yars ballistic missile launch





    Russia's Space Forces confirmed on Wednesday the failure of a test-firing of a Yars (RS-24) intercontinental ballistic missile launched from Plesetsk Cosmodrome.

    The launch was the first of a prototype modification of the missile, according to a defense industry source.

    "The firing from Plesetsk on September 27 was part of testing by the manufacturer of a new series of missiles," Space Forces spokesman Colonel Alexei Zolotukhin said.

    The test concerned a new warhead bus for the solid-fuel RS-24, according to a military source.

    "The new multiple warhead section would upgrade the capabilities of this missile to take on future missile defense systems," the source told RIA Novosti.

    http://www.en.ria.ru/mlitary_news/20110928/167212598.html

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    Re: RS-24 'Yars' (SS-29)

    Post  Pervius on Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:37 pm

    The only successful mobile ballistic missile would be one aimed not up....but aimed just above the tree line and fired off. Have hypersonic missile at end of ballistic missile to reach target.

    Would get by HAARP, Airborne Laser, THAAD, Patriot...everything. Especially if undersea fibre optic cables were cut so radar trackings from various countries couldn't be fed to target area for a defense.


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    Re: RS-24 'Yars' (SS-29)

    Post  GarryB on Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:52 am

    You could drive a TOPOL-M into an An-124 and fly it anywhere you want to launch from pretty much anywhere you want.
    The newer missiles have very short but very powerful stage firings which reduces the period when the missile has an enormous IR flare at its base illuminating its position to anyone looking in that general direction. After those stages have burned out the warheads deploy... as do the decoys... getting up to speed and into space where air friction is zero is the top priority of any long range missile.

    You are not hidden till you deploy your decoys...

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    Re: RS-24 'Yars' (SS-29)

    Post  Russian Patriot on Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:44 pm


    Topol ballistic missiles may stay in service until 2019




    17:06 28/10/2011
    MOSCOW, October 28 (RIA Novosti)
    Tags: Topol-M, Yars, Sergei Karakayev, Moscow, Russia

    The service life of Topol mobile ballistic missile systems could be extended until 2019, Commander of Russia’s Strategic Missile Forces (SMF) Lt. Gen. Sergei Karakayev said on Friday.



    “The road-mobile Topol missile systems may remain in service with the SMF until 2019,” Karakayev said at a meeting with SMF veterans. “The evaluation of its [Topol missile] reliability and technical condition allows us to consider further extension of its service life.”



    The RS-12M Topol (SS-25 Sickle) is a single-warhead intercontinental ballistic missile, approximately the same size and shape as the U.S. Minuteman ICBM. The first Topol missiles entered service in 1985.



    The missile has a maximum range of 10,000 km (6,125 miles) and can carry a nuclear warhead with a yield of 550 kilotons.



    Although the service life of the SS-25 (originally 10 years) is being periodically extended, the missile will be progressively retired over the next decade and replaced by mobile Topol-M (SS-27 Stalin) and RS-24 Yars missile systems.



    As of August 2011, the SMF operated at least 171 road-mobile Topol missile systems, 50 silo-based and 18 road-mobile Topol-M systems, and nine RS-24 systems.

    http://www.en.ria.ru/mlitary_news/20111028/168206957.html

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    Re: RS-24 'Yars' (SS-29)

    Post  GarryB on Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:32 am

    This is good news.

    Older stuff lasting longer puts less pressure on getting new stuff into production to replace it.

    It also means that if Russia is not satisfied with US promises over Euro ABM then they will be able to stop the decline in warhead numbers and increase them without too much of an economic burden.

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    Re: RS-24 'Yars' (SS-29)

    Post  Russian Patriot on Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:05 pm

    Russia to Train Contract Soldiers for Yars Missile Systems

    RIA Novosti

    14:00 18/01/2012 MOSCOW, January 18 (RIA Novosti) - More than 4,000 contracted soldiers will take training courses in 2012 to be able to operate the new Yars (RS-24) ballistic missile systems, a spokesman for Russia’s Strategic Missile Forces (SMF) said on Wednesday.

    The RS-24 is a new-generation intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) capable of carrying multiple warheads.

    “Over 4,000 contracted soldiers, serving in the SMF, will take basic and advanced training and re-training courses in 2012,” Col. Vadim Koval said.

    Koval said the three-month training programs would focus on the operation of Yars systems as the new missiles are gradually replacing the outdated ICBMs in the Russian nuclear arsenal.

    The official also said the number of contracted soldiers in the SMF is expected to increase by over 20 percent by the end of this year.

    The Yars missile system is armed with the RS-24 intercontinental ballistic missile that has considerably better combat and operational capabilities than the Topol-M (SS-27 Stalin).

    Russia fully deployed the first Yars regiment consisting of three battalions on combat duty with the Teikovo missile division in central Russia in August 2011.

    Two more missile divisions will start receiving the Yars systems in 2012. The Novosibirsk division [in Siberia] will receive mobile RS-24 systems, while the Kozelsk division (in central Russia) will be armed with the silo-based version of the system.

    The SMF said last year that the Topol-M and RS-24 ballistic missiles would be the mainstay of the ground-based component of Russia's nuclear triad and would account for no less than 80% of the SMF's arsenal by 2016.


    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/russia/2012/russia-120118-rianovosti02.htm

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    Re: RS-24 'Yars' (SS-29)

    Post  George1 on Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:36 am

    RS-24 missiles to replace UR-100NUTTH in Kozelsk

    he Strategic Rocket Forces are removing some of the UR-100NUTTH/SS-19 missiles from silos at the Kozelsk division to make room for future deployment of silo-based RS-24 Yars missiles. Deployment of silo-based RS-24 missiles in Kozelsk was expected for some time - it was mentioned in 2008 and confirmed in 2011.

    In the last START data exchange in 2009 Russia reported having 29 deployed SS-19 missiles in Kozelsk. There were the total of 50 silos at that point. According to the news story linked above, 20 missiles of this type have not been removed yet. Whether they will remain in service during the RS-24 deployment is not quite clear.

    Also, it is not clear if the UR-100NUTTH missile in Tatishchevo are being removed. The Rocket Forces said that the division in Tatishchevo will complete "re-armament" by the end of 2012. A literal reading of this seems would imply that UR-100NUTTH (there were 40 of them in 2009) will be removed, but that does not seem to be the case - my colleagues tell me that UR-100NUTTH are still deployed there. Also, the Rocket Forces said that some of the UR-100NUTTH removed from Kozelsk might be deployed elsewhere. Tatishchevo seems to be the only option.

    Among other things, this means that my estimate of the number of deployed UR-100NUTTH based on the New START data is quite a bit off - I assumed that Russia had 35 missiles of this type in March 2012. In fact, this number could be as high as 69 - 29 in Kozelsk and 40 in Tatishchevo. To complicate the New START data-based estimates, some of the missiles in Kozelsk were probably in silos with their warheads removed, so while the missiles were counted as operationally deployed, the number of warheads associated with them was zero.

    http://russianforces.org/blog/2012/07/rs-24_missiles_to_replace_ur-1.shtml

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    Re: RS-24 'Yars' (SS-29)

    Post  George1 on Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:45 am


    Mobile RS-24 to be deployed in Irkutsk

    It's an old news, but it's worth noting - in July 2012, the Rocket Forces said that they began preparations for deployment of RS-24 Yars missiles in Irkutsk (it's around 2:50 in the video) as well as in Novosibirsk (and silo-based RS-24 in Kozelsk).

    The Novosibirsk and Kozelsk were identified earlier, but this was the first time I saw Irkutsk mentioned in this context. It looks like the mobile RS-24 deployment will be limited to these two divisions (three if we count Teykovo) - if the old consolidation plan is still in place, the four divisions in Vypolzovo, Yoshkar-Ola, Nizhniy Tagil, and Barnaul will be liquidated.

    As far as I can tell, it is possible that the Topol missiles have already been withdrawn from Novosibirsk and Irkutsk, leaving about 108 Topol missiles in the active force.

    http://russianforces.org/blog/2012/11/mobile_rs-24_to_be_deployed_in.shtml

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    Russia to Get New ICBM Later this Year

    Post  dino00 on Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:26 pm

    MOSCOW, April 18 (RIA Novosti) - The first modernized intercontinental ballistic missile, Yars-M, will enter service with Russia’s Strategic Missile Forces (RVSN) later this year, RVSN Commander Col. Gen. Sergei Karavayev said on Thursday.
    A defense industry source previously told RIA Novosti the Armed Forces will take delivery of a fifth-generation Yars-M missile before the end of the current year.
    Karavayev declined to provide any details, including the missile’s specifications.
    The existing RS-24 Yars (NATO reporting name, SS-29) is a MIRV’ed ICBM that is heavier than the Topol-M (SS-27 Stalin) and can carry up to 10 independently targetable warheads.
    The RVSN previously said that the Topol-M and RS-24 ballistic missiles will be the mainstay of the ground-based component of Russia's nuclear triad and would account for no less than 80 percent of the RVSN’s arsenal by 2016.
    Karavayev also said the Tatishchevo RVSN Division, near the city of Saratov in southwestern Russia, at present has 60 Topol-M missile systems.
    The Topol-M missile, with a range of about 7,000 miles (11,000 km), is said to be immune to any current and planned US antiballistic missile defense. It is capable of making evasive maneuvers, and carries targeting countermeasures and decoys.
    By 2020, the RVSN are expected to be equipped with over 170 Topol-Ms (mobile and silo-based), as well as 30 SS-19 and 108 RS-24 missile defense systems in nine divisions.
    http://en.rian.ru/military_news/20130418/180717057/Russia-to-Get-New-ICBM-Later-this-Year.html

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    Re: RS-24 'Yars' (SS-29)

    Post  GarryB on Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:54 am

    I can just imagine the complaints from the west... why does Russian continue to spend money on nuclear weapons while the peace loving west spends money on missile defence systems that will prevent war rather than start them. Why does Russia need all these new nuclear weapons when the peaceful west simply continues to use its old missiles like Peacekeeper? Does Russia want to start an Arms race?

    As usual, western propaganda at its best... the western media tells its audience about all these new Russian weapons, but it fails to tell the full story as usual.

    The reality is that the new arms treaties which Russia and the US have signed has reduced dramatically the number of warheads each side can have and no arms race is actually possible without breaking that agreement and there is
    no evidence either side has broken it yet.

    The Russians are developing new weapons because their old weapons were Soviet and they don't want to have to share secrets with countries that now seem to want to enter NATO or are part of NATO.

    The whole concept of nuclear deterrance is based on mutually assured destruction... if one side has an enormous anti missile infrastructure along with a reduced number of nuclear weapons for both sides and a powerful conventional capability and a military alliance that includes most of Russias European neighbours then this undermines the nuclear deterrent. A powerful strike against Russias nuclear facilities... which are limited by treaty in location and number, might lead to a situation where they might decide they have enough of a missile shield to stop anything they don't get in the first strike attack on Russias nuclear weapons assets. In other words an ABM system actually makes nuclear war more likely... rather than less likely.

    The irony is that the military industrial complex that builds the ABM system will make all sorts of promises as to its effectiveness and it might just take one president to believe them to start a war that no one could win. For Russia the thought that their missiles do get through and wipe out the US will be of little compensation.

    The ABM systems now are unregulated and destabilising and so the Russian solution of rail mounted missiles makes an enormous amount of sense. Currently truck mounted missiles are limited to deployment areas by treaty, but rail mounted missiles can be rapidly dispersed in hours over an enormous area amongst millions of other very similar looking carriages... it is a perfectly natural solution to the problem posed by the US ABM system.

    The destabilising nature of ABMs is why they had an ABM treaty in the first place.


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    Re: RS-24 'Yars' (SS-29)

    Post  GarryB on Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:18 am

    Of course the other fact the western media ignores completely is that while Russia is reducing its warhead numbers and making money processing the material and selling it to US companies that run the US nuclear power generation plants for fuel the US is not destroying its old warheads and it is actually storing them for potential future use, so if anyone is being the bad guy not getting rid of nukes it is the US.

    What the US is actually doing is saving money by just upgrading and maintaining its older ICBMs so it can spend enormous amounts on ABM systems.

    The Russians on the other hand are saving money by using withdrawn ICBMs as space launchers, selling the warhead material as fuel to US companies, and are spending money on newer more modern missiles to replace all the old ones.


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    Re: RS-24 'Yars' (SS-29)

    Post  Hachimoto on Tue May 21, 2013 3:51 pm


    Skif: a new missile in the Russian army



    The testing of the new missile Skif take place in the White Sea by the end of June Its uniqueness?
    It may pause at the bottom of the sea or the ocean and shoot at the right time on land and naval sites Izvestia wrote Tuesday.


    A source from the Ministry of Defence said the missile was designed in cooperation with the consulting firm Rubin (St. Petersburg) and Makeev ballistic Centre (Mias) at the request of the Ministry.

    Why? No official reason has been advanced. The editor of the site Military Russia, Dmitri Kornev says that the installation of such missiles at the bottom of the ocean would eliminate enemy strategic targets without involving submarines.

    "The strategic submarines are vulnerable to anti-submarine weapons of the enemy.
    Just detect the device and launch of one of its missiles could easily be prevented. But the missile Skif is virtually invisible, "says Kornev.

    Moreover Vladimir Zakharov, deputy retired admiral, notes that if the enemy spotted the ship installs Skif the bottom of the sea, they could be easily defused.

    "If the sub-carrier was followed by the enemy he could not install the missile if it was installed in an open area of ​​the seabed, the modern sonar detects easily -. Therefore all depend on the actions of captain of the submarine-bearer, "said Zakharov.

    The first missile tests are planned for early summer in the White Sea. The missile will be laid by the submarine Sarov, specially modified for testing Skif. At the bow of Sarov is a larger torpedo (about 1 m) and special ballast tanks to compensate for the weight of the missile fired and allow the submarine to remain stable.

    "During testing we test the missile but also his transfer from a ship at sea on a submarine. If everything went smoothly, the Skif pass the formal evaluation tests for the commissioning of the missile in the Navy Russian, "he said.

    The Makeev Centre Miass confirmed he was working on a machine called Skif but gave no details on the project. The desk study Rubin declined to comment, referring to state secrets.


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    Re: RS-24 'Yars' (SS-29)

    Post  GarryB on Wed May 22, 2013 3:42 am

    Interesting... taking the captor concept to a new level... captor, or captured torpedo was a type of mine that was tethered to the sea floor that had its own sonar. When it detected a vessel nearby it examined the signature and if it was designated enemy would launch its torpedo upwards at the target... the target would get very little warning and would have little time to manouver and would likely have been hit very quickly... perhaps not even knowing what had happened as no subs have sonar antennas on their bellies.

    The idea of sowing SLBMs along the sea bed is interesting... it should be noted that a Captor Mine could be fired by torpedo tube into an enemy held harbour or to somewhere where the launch platform doesn't need to sail just to deploy the weapon... a new system could be fitted with GLONASS guidance and be released to be moved into position by the tides or current to set itself up silently. It would only be deployed/launched during war so a self destruct mechanism could be used to prevent enemy interference.


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    Post  Cyberspec on Sat May 25, 2013 2:13 am

    Sounds interesting...

    There was a similar project in the 1960's for a submerged launch platform. Back then, they were planning on deploying them in the Caspian Sea and some large lakes.

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    Re: RS-24 'Yars' (SS-29)

    Post  TR1 on Sat May 25, 2013 2:54 am

    I hope that is a joke.

    Stupidest idea I have ever heard to come out of Russia.


    EDIT: To be clear, I am talkig about recent Izvesya insipired news that new version of Skiff, deployed from bottom of sea-floor was to be developed.

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    Re: RS-24 'Yars' (SS-29)

    Post  GarryB on Sat May 25, 2013 11:21 am

    Stupidest idea I have ever heard to come out of Russia.

    Look at who they have to compete with... Twisted Evil

    Perhaps this is their real counter to missile defence... sow the fields with mushroom... clouds... What a Face


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    Re: RS-24 'Yars' (SS-29)

    Post  AlfaT8 on Sat May 25, 2013 6:07 pm

    O.K, so let me get this straight, this is a SLBM launch platform that will be placed on the sea floor, right?? study

    If so how will it receive command from HQ and will it be manned or unmanned?? scratch

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    Re: RS-24 'Yars' (SS-29)

    Post  GarryB on Sun May 26, 2013 10:35 am

    The Captor mine held a torpedo and was laid by firing it into the location you wanted it positioned like a torpedo... it could be programmed to swim a specific course and then drop to the bottom and wait.

    After a delay it would arm and start listening to traffic nearby. When it recognised enemy subs it would pic a priority target and listen for it to come close... laying such a weapon in a choke point where a sub has to pass would be ideal... as long as the sub kept getting closer it would do nothing... then the sub started getting further away the torpedo would launch and track down the sub.

    In terms of a ballistic missile I suspect it would be designed to sink pretty deep... the deeper the better, and wait for a signal to launch. The signal to launch could be an ultra low frequency signal transmitted from very great distances.


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    Re: RS-24 'Yars' (SS-29)

    Post  Firebird on Sun May 26, 2013 12:18 pm

    I actuallt thought about this as an idea a while back.

    I mean launching a missile from nowhere... or from a 250/ 500 feet long submarine..
    It does have the potential of stealth.. and almost undefendability.

    Ofcourse there are problems of it being tampered with/ stolen etc.
    But, I certainly think its worth exploring.. and using in some way or other.

    To me it fits the next generation of warfare. Along with it you could count masses of drones, energy weapons etc.

    If u think, currently a whole fleet might mean 10, 15 or so vessels. Take those out an the sea war is over. And often sea battles are VERY quick.

    Next gen, you can attack without exposing yourself to the potential decimation of a whole fleet at once.. Interesting.

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