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    Post  Cyberspec Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:35 am

    Militarov wrote:[i]"The trials of the first two upgraded Su-25SM3......

    Excelent...glad they've gone with the full upgrade. The Su-25 is after all the workhorse of the RuAF and with this upgrade, it should be around for another 10 years or so I reckon
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    Post  George1 Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:43 am

    Another 5 Su-25SM3 are planned

    Ministry of Defence may spend 1.7 billion rubles for the modernization of five Su-25
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    Post  Cyberspec Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:15 am

    George1 wrote:http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1608752.html

    Su-25SM3 with jammers visible
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    Post  Austin Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:28 am



    Trials of modernised Su-25SM3s to begin by the end of the year

    Nikolai Novichkov, Moscow - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly

    http://www.janes.com/article/56602/trials-of-modernised-su-25sm3s-to-begin-by-the-end-of-the-year

    Trials of the first two upgraded Sukhoi Su-25SM3 single-seat strike aircraft will start before the end of the year, a Russian defence industry source has told IHS Jane's .

    "The first two Su-25SM3 aircraft must be commissioned in December. Both aircraft will be shipped for trials. One of them will be delivered to the combat operation and pilot retraining center in Lipetsk for performance evaluation," the source said.

    According to information published on Russia's defence procurement website, the Su-25SM3 and Su-25UBM2 (a two-seat operational trainer version) will essentially differ from their predecessors in their avionics and their suite of airborne weapons.

    The upgraded attack aircraft will be fitted with the PrNK-25SM-1 sighting and navigation system comprising the following: a BTsU-25S onboard digital computing system, a MFTsI-0332M multifunctional colour display, and a SOLT-25 optical laser remote thermal imaging system. In addition, the Su-25SM3 and Su-25UBM2 will receive the KSS-25 communication system with Banker-8-TM-1 antenna and the L370K25 Vitebsk-25 electronic countermeasures system, which protects the individual platform any other aircraft it flies with by providing countermeasures against different radars and the homing heads of enemy air-to-air guided missiles.

    The upgraded aircraft will also be fitted with the T-SOK-UBD-130-03 onboard TV system for objective monitoring of training and combat actions as well as the SUO-39M armament control system.

    Regarding weaponry, the Su-25SM3 and Su-25UBM2 will be able to use Kh-58USh (NATO reporting name AS-11 'Kilter'), Kh-25ML (AS-10 'Karen') and Kh-29L (AS-14 'Kedge') laser-guided missiles, TV-guided missiles like the Kh-29T/TD/TE, as well as the KAB-500S (satellite-aided) and KAB-500Kr (TV-aided) guided aerial bombs. Each aircraft will be able to carry two R-73 short-range air-to-air missiles for self defence.

    The aircraft will also be able to carry a wide range of unguided bombs (eg FAB-500, OFAB-500U, OFZAB-500) and rockets (S-13, S-24 and S-25) and will be armed with a 9A623 30 mm cannon incorporating the VPU-17A fixed gun mount, the standard ammunition supply for which is 250 rounds.
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    Post  GarryB Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:51 pm

    Hopefully the success of the Gefest & T upgrade has shown the Russian military the value of using sensors and computing power to improve the accuracy of unguided weapons.

    As far as I know the Mi-35M upgrades with laser range finding improved the accuracy of unguided weapons for that aircraft significantly... especially at longer ranges as the calculations are fairly straight forward for a computer but tricky for a pilot, so it makes sense to let the computers do the job.

    the result is significantly improved accuracy with cheap dumb weapons and the ability to use them at much greater ranges and still to be effective.

    Unguided rockets like the S-24 and S-25 offer the ability to deliver 125kgs and 150kgs on target from a standoff distance at low cost... well they are often fired in pairs so it is actually 250kgs to 300kgs of HE on target at one time...

    Improved accuracy of unguided cheap ammo means more ammo can be carried and used for the enormous range of battlefield targets that don't require 800mm plus armour penetration performance.

    An oil carrying truck will burn whether it is hit with an expensive ATGM or a cheap unguided rocket.

    Of course for targets like oil storage tanks which are separated and have small walls to prevent the spread of fire a 20m high air burst of HE to shatter the tank structure and then a couple of ZAB incendiary bombs or rockets to ignite the fuel is the best way to deal with the target...

    Good to see the emphasis on self protection for the new aircraft upgrade too...
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    Post  medo Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:36 pm

    http://vpk-news.ru/news/28537

    Об этом сообщил Интерфаксу-АВН источник в оборонно-промышленном комплексе. «На 121-м авиационно-ремонтном заводе в подмосковной Кубинке модернизирована первая партия штурмовиков Су-25 в «техническом лице» Су-25СМ3», - сказал собеседник агентства.

    По его словам, поставка Воздушно-космическим силам (ВКС) России штурмовиков Су-25СМ3 состоится до конца текущего года. Он отметил, что вариант штурмовика Су-25СМ3 существенно отличается не только от строевых Су-25, но и от модернизированных ранее Су-25СМ за счет применения нового радиоэлектронного оборудования и авиационных средств поражения. Модификация Су-25СМ3 является вторым этапом модернизации строевых одноместных штурмовиков Су-25, первая модификация - Су-25СМ, напомнил собеседник агентства.

    Russian 121th aviation repair plant in Kubinka will modernize the first batch of Su-25 to Su-25SM3 and will deliver them to RuAF to the end of the year. They will be different comparing to Su-25SM with using new radio electronic equipment and fire control complex.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:13 am

    So the Su-25s being used by Russia in Syria... are they SM3?

    Are there any plans for operational deployment and testing of SM3s?

    Obviously using new models of the Su-25 will be more testing in a real environment as they wont be flying above 6km to avoid MANPADS, but if you want to find out how your aircraft perform you need to test them in a realistic environment and this is as real as it gets without starting WWIII.
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    Post  Cyberspec Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:10 am

    GarryB wrote:So the Su-25s being used by Russia in Syria... are they SM3?

    Regular SM by most reports....SM3's aren't ready yet
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    Post  Werewolf Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:29 am

    Cyberspec wrote:
    GarryB wrote:So the Su-25s being used by Russia in Syria... are they SM3?

    Regular SM by most reports....SM3's aren't ready yet

    Yes, it lacks MAWS and DIRCM of the advertized SM3.
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    Post  George1 Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:44 am

    22 Feb 1975, T-8-1 (Su-25 prototype) performed maiden test flight. Pilot-V.Ilyshin
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    Post  franco Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:10 pm

    GarryB wrote:So the Su-25s being used by Russia in Syria... are they SM3?

    Are there any plans for operational deployment and testing of SM3s?

    Obviously using new models of the Su-25 will be more testing in a real environment as they wont be flying above 6km to avoid MANPADS, but if you want to find out how your aircraft perform you need to test them in a realistic environment and this is as real as it gets without starting WWIII.

    First 5 Su-25SM3's are going or have gone operational in the South Military District.
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    Post  medo Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:04 pm

    franco wrote:
    GarryB wrote:So the Su-25s being used by Russia in Syria... are they SM3?

    Are there any plans for operational deployment and testing of SM3s?

    Obviously using new models of the Su-25 will be more testing in a real environment as they wont be flying above 6km to avoid MANPADS, but if you want to find out how your aircraft perform you need to test them in a realistic environment and this is as real as it gets without starting WWIII.

    First 5 Su-25SM3's are going or have gone operational in the South Military District.

    Nice. thumbsup I wonder if there are changes in the cockpit considering Su-25SM3 have SOLT-25 EO sight. Maybe additional LCD would work fine to show all data from SOLT and other new components like MAWS, ECM, data link, etc.
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    Post  franco Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:48 pm

    Some of the specs for the Su-25SM3 in Russian, cost to be around 70 ml rubles per;

    http://twower.livejournal.com/1912037.html
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    Post  AlfaT8 Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:27 pm

    franco wrote:Some of the specs for the Su-25SM3 in Russian, cost to be around 70 ml rubles per;

    http://twower.livejournal.com/1912037.html

    So $1ml a pop, that sounds like a steal. Suspect

    Are these new or upgrades?
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:28 pm

    franco wrote:Some of the specs for the Su-25SM3 in Russian, cost to be around 70 ml rubles per;

    http://twower.livejournal.com/1912037.html

    Quick question: Is that the cost of the upgrade, or the whole shebang?
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    Post  Guest Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:31 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    franco wrote:Some of the specs for the Su-25SM3 in Russian, cost to be around 70 ml rubles per;

    http://twower.livejournal.com/1912037.html

    So $1ml a pop, that sounds like a steal. Suspect

    Are these new or upgrades?

    Upgrades only ofc. Production line for SU25s does not exist at this moment.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:33 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    franco wrote:Some of the specs for the Su-25SM3 in Russian, cost to be around 70 ml rubles per;

    http://twower.livejournal.com/1912037.html

    So $1ml a pop, that sounds like a steal. Suspect

    Are these new or upgrades?

    I think it may actually be just under $1 million. I haven't checked recently, but last I checked the Ruble was trading at 75-to-1 Dollar. 70 million Rubles equates to $933,333 if my calculations are right...but again I haven't check the current exchange rates.
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    Post  AlfaT8 Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:43 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:
    franco wrote:Some of the specs for the Su-25SM3 in Russian, cost to be around 70 ml rubles per;

    http://twower.livejournal.com/1912037.html

    So $1ml a pop, that sounds like a steal. Suspect

    Are these new or upgrades?

    I think it may actually be just under $1 million. I haven't checked recently, but last I checked the Ruble was trading at 75-to-1 Dollar. 70 million Rubles equates to $933,333 if my calculations are right...but again I haven't check the current exchange rates.

    Nah, your right, i just rounded it up to $1ml.

    A pity the SU-25 ain't being produced anymore, there isn't really an aircraft that can replace it, and with the situation in the M.East being what it is, you'd think these thing would sell like hotcakes.
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    Post  Austin Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:51 am

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    The Su-25K Bulgarian Air Force (board "246" number) is flying in tandem with attack aircraft Fairchild-Republic A-10C Thunderbolt II from the 74th Expeditionary Fighter Squadron 23th Air Force wing. Bulgaria, 02/23/2016 (c) Georgi Petkov / russianplanes.net ( link )
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    Post  George1 Wed May 25, 2016 2:20 am

    Order for nine modernized Su-25SM3

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1919182.html
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    Post  franco Wed May 25, 2016 6:17 pm

    George1 wrote:Order for nine modernized Su-25SM3

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1919182.html

    A little puzzling in that they are asking for tenders to modernize 9 planes to 25SM3 standard. And then talk about the 121st Aircraft Repair plant (Air Force owned) at Kubinka modernizing 40 Su-25 to SM3 standards by 2020.
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    Post  Guest Wed May 25, 2016 6:27 pm

    franco wrote:
    George1 wrote:Order for nine modernized Su-25SM3

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1919182.html

    A little puzzling in that they are asking for tenders to modernize 9 planes to 25SM3 standard. And then talk about the 121st Aircraft Repair plant (Air Force owned) at Kubinka modernizing 40 Su-25 to SM3 standards by 2020.

    And originally they were talking about 80 being modernised by 2020.
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    Post  Austin Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:39 pm

    Su-25UBM

    http://arsenal-otechestva.ru/article/615-su-25ubm
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    Post  franco Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:41 pm

    Austin wrote:Su-25UBM

    http://arsenal-otechestva.ru/article/615-su-25ubm

    Unfortunately no mention of numbers being ordered because up to now only 1-3 have been or are being converted. Definitely more needed.
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    Post  JohninMK Sat Jul 23, 2016 11:11 am

    Another Bulgarian Su-25, photo taken to celebrate Bezmer Air Base’s new runway, their home.

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