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    Su-25 attack aircraft

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    Post  Viktor Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:18 pm

    Nice thumbsup

    "Rooks" with advanced sighting complete state tests
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    Post  mack8 Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:35 pm

    That si interesting, so presumably part of the Su-25 fleet will be upgraded with the SVP-24-25,  likely much cheaper than the top-end SM3 upgrade, but also not as capable as far as i gather. This might have to do with recent statements about defence spending reduction (a big mistake imo, big mistake), what do you think?
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    Post  medo Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:56 am

    mack8 wrote:That si interesting, so presumably part of the Su-25 fleet will be upgraded with the SVP-24-25,  likely much cheaper than the top-end SM3 upgrade, but also not as capable as far as i gather. This might have to do with recent statements about defence spending reduction (a big mistake imo, big mistake), what do you think?

    It's difficult to say. Maybe this Gefest FCS will be also part of Su-25SM upgrade. As I know, Su-25SM modernization mostly include new navigational suite with additional GPS/GLONASS complex and ESM complex with new Pastel RWR and now also with MAWS sensors and new jamming pods. Of course it get new HUD and an LCD display, but the rest of FCS is the same as Su-25SM didn't get any new weapon. We don't know, what is the difference between Su-25SM and SVP-24-25 FCS, they both improve accuracy with unguided munition through improved navigational suite and GPS/GLONASS complex. Maybe Gefest have better FCS computer and could integrate more weapons into it. I hope they will integrate TV/IIR guided missiles and bombs, which will improve Su-25SM capabilities to operate from the safe distance and to improve night capabilities with IIR guided missiles.
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    Post  George1 Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:27 am

    Russia’s Defense Ministry to set up new air assault group in Siberia

    The air regiment with its Sukhoi Su-25 (NATO reporting name: Frogfoot) attack aircraft will fly from the Step airfield near Chita

    MOSCOW, July 28. /TASS/. Russia’s Defense Ministry has started forming a new large air group, which will be based in East Siberia, Eastern Military District spokesman Alexander Gordeyev said on Tuesday.

    The air assault regiment will be based at the aerodrome Step in the Trans-Baikal Territory, the spokesman said.

    The air regiment with its Sukhoi Su-25 (NATO reporting name: Frogfoot) attack aircraft will fly from the Step airfield near Chita whose modernization will take no more than a year, the spokesman said, adding the aerodrome would be a unique logistics center.

    "Currently work is under way to form the engineering and technical and maintenance personnel and requests have been filed for the necessary amount of armaments and combat hardware and material supplies," the colonel said.

    Engineering and technical units and the air regiment’s flight control service are expected to be established by the end of this year, he added.

    After the completion of necessary works, the Step aerodrome will have no analogs in East Siberia and the Russian Far East by its capabilities, the spokesman said.

    Apart from the possibility to receive aircraft of all types, from helicopters to heavy military transport planes, the aerodrome will feature developed infrastructure with unique logistics possibilities," the spokesman said.
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    Post  d_taddei2 Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:30 pm

    does anyone know if the SU-25 is still in production as i understand the factory that built them was situated in Georgia.
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    Post  medo Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:31 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:does anyone know if the SU-25 is still in production as i understand the factory that built them was situated in Georgia.

    As I know, at the moment no new Su-25 is in production. there were some plans to produce new Su-25UBM in Ulan Ude as factory in Ulan Ude produced two seater Su-25UB. Single seater Su-25 was produced in Tbilisi in Georgia.
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    Post  medo Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:29 pm

    George1 wrote:Russia’s Defense Ministry to set up new air assault group in Siberia

    The air regiment with its Sukhoi Su-25 (NATO reporting name: Frogfoot) attack aircraft will fly from the Step airfield near Chita

    MOSCOW, July 28. /TASS/. Russia’s Defense Ministry has started forming a new large air group, which will be based in East Siberia, Eastern Military District spokesman Alexander Gordeyev said on Tuesday.

    The air assault regiment will be based at the aerodrome Step in the Trans-Baikal Territory, the spokesman said.

    The air regiment with its Sukhoi Su-25 (NATO reporting name: Frogfoot) attack aircraft will fly from the Step airfield near Chita whose modernization will take no more than a year, the spokesman said, adding the aerodrome would be a unique logistics center.

    "Currently work is under way to form the engineering and technical and maintenance personnel and requests have been filed for the necessary amount of armaments and combat hardware and material supplies," the colonel said.

    Engineering and technical units and the air regiment’s flight control service are expected to be established by the end of this year, he added.

    After the completion of necessary works, the Step aerodrome will have no analogs in East Siberia and the Russian Far East by its capabilities, the spokesman said.

    Apart from the possibility to receive aircraft of all types, from helicopters to heavy military transport planes, the aerodrome will feature developed infrastructure with unique logistics possibilities," the spokesman said.

    Most probably RuAF will relocate Su-25 regiment from Domna air base to renovated Step air base.
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    Post  Viktor Wed Aug 05, 2015 10:53 am

    Nice thumbsup

    The first batch of Su-25SM3 will be transferred to the Russian Air Force until the end of the year
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    Post  franco Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:44 am

    The Russian Defense Ministry has decided to accelerate the modernization of all Su-25 to the level of SM3.

    Legendary attack aircraft, the name of which is supplemented by the prefix “SM3”, is different from its predecessors by the new electronic equipment domestic production.

    The equipment allows the use of modern guided missiles and guided aerial bombs. According to the pilots, the combat effectiveness of the upgraded vehicles increased almost threefold. Su-25SM3 especially good in the fight against the enemy drones.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:06 am

    Actually I would pay good money to try that... flying around in an Su-35SM3 with a couple of 23mm cannon pods and of course the main 30mm gun and fly around airspace in the middle of nowhere over Russia shooting down unmanned drones designed to look like US drones and western fighter aircraft... Smile

    That would be serious fun.
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    Post  Viktor Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:55 pm

    Nice thumbsup

    2015Modernization of the first combat training Su-25UB
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    Post  franco Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:53 pm

    Viktor wrote:Nice  thumbsup

    2015Modernization of the first combat training Su-25UB

    Interesting because I had read way back when the Su-25SM came out that it included an order for 2 UB's to be upgraded to UBM.
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    Post  George1 Thu Aug 13, 2015 2:33 am

    Photos from the airfield of Chernigovka equipped with modernized Su-25SM

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    Post  medo Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:33 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1-v7ROrqrc

    Nice video from Su-25SM simulator. Very Happy
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    Post  George1 Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:28 pm

    Russian Fighter Pilots Polishing Low Altitude Skills on Su-25s

    Russian pilots are mastering clandestine maneuvers to avoid anti-aircraft missile systems.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Russian pilots in the Southern Military District are currently increasing their skills in extremely low altitude flights on Su-25SM Frogfoot close air support jets, the Russian Defense Ministry’s Southern Military District’s press service said Wednesday.

    “During the flight training at extremely low altitude [as low as 25 meters above the ground], the military pilots will complete tasks of clandestine maneuvers of the fighter jets to avoid anti-aircraft missile systems of a conditional enemy,” the press service said in a statement.

    The pilots will also practice emergency drills to include engine cutouts.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150909/1026778353.html#ixzz3lHMeG6QZ
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    Post  medo Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:13 pm

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    Su-25SM3 will get new L-150-16M RWR/ELINT complex, which was tested and will soon be in serial production. This new RWR will be also installed in Su-27 derivates. L-150-16M not only passively target ground based radars for anti-radar missiles, but also air targets for R-77 and R-27P/EP missiles.

    Together with MAWS sensors, radar jammers and maybe even LWRs, Su-25SM3 will have similar ESM complex as Spectra in Rafale.
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    Post  sepheronx Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:47 am

    Very interesting.

    So this will give Su-25SM the capabilities to launch anti radiation missiles as well as launch air to air without a need of a radar, but simply a way to pick up the signals from radar? Awesome!
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    Post  mutantsushi Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:58 am

    Wonder if PAKFA's DIRCM will be making it onto Su-25, or future revamp of platform?
    I'm not exactly sure what they would want to accomplish with cleansheet PAKSHA (?) design,
    that they couldn't accomplish with modernized Su-25 with new engines, avionics, subsystems (all electric actuators?)
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    Post  medo Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:59 pm

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    http://www.redstar.ru/index.php/2011-07-25-15-57-07/item/25635-atakuet-yak-130

    Important part of upgrading Su-25 to Su-25SM3 will be replacing the old Klen-PS laser targeting device with new SOLT-25 device with laser, TV and thermal imager for all day operation in searching, identifying and engaging targets. There is no need for any modifications in Su-25 as SOLT-25 is the same size as Klen-PS and have the same fixing points. State tests of SOLT-25 will go in this autumn and this complex is also placed in Yak-130 prototype in MAKS-2015.
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    Post  medo Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:12 pm

    http://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=392205

    Russia start with flying testings of twin seater Su-25UBM which will be identical to the most deeply modernized Su-25SM3. Twin seater Su-25UBM is better suited for all weather and night operations so RuAF will modernize Su-25UB to Su-25UBM for trainers in Su-25SM squadrons and for independent squadrons.
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    Post  George1 Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:23 am

    Some photos of Su-25SMs from flight-tactical exercises in the Eastern Military District in Primorsky Krai.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1592333.html
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    Post  iraqidabab Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:12 am

    What POD/targeting system do the (new) SU-25's use? I can't find any pictures where I see a (FLIR/TV) pod
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    Post  franco Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:16 am

    iraqidabab wrote:What POD/targeting system do the (new) SU-25's use? I can't find any pictures where I see a (FLIR/TV) pod

    Not a pod, internal in place of AA radar. See latest variant above (3-4 posts)
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    Post  George1 Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:15 am

    The order for the first batch of upgraded Su-25SM3

    The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation posted information on the conduct of the electronic auction for the repair with the modernization of Su-25 variant of the Su-25SM3. Ordered batch of five aircraft will start for the serial version of the modernization of the Su-25SM3 carried out to the level of modernization of the Su-25SM. To 2014 inclusive has been upgraded 84 attack aircraft, including four advanced, two of which are used for development of the next stages of modernization. To date, five of them Su-25SM have been lost.

    The price of works on modernization of the plane defined in 350.2 mln. (in this case it does not include suspended containers Jammer electronic countermeasures complex "Vitebsk-25"), the total initial price of the contract is set at 1,751 billion rubles. Performance time is defined by 25 November 2016.

    The modernization will be carried out in accordance with approved in 2015. 81.0000.M.010.998 specifications, which are available for review as part of the auction documentation.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1608752.html
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    Post  franco Fri Dec 04, 2015 2:14 pm

    George1 wrote:The order for the first batch of upgraded Su-25SM3

       The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation posted information on the conduct of the electronic auction for the repair with the modernization of Su-25 variant of the Su-25SM3. Ordered batch of five aircraft will start for the serial version of the modernization of the Su-25SM3 carried out to the level of modernization of the Su-25SM. To 2014 inclusive has been upgraded 84 attack aircraft, including four advanced, two of which are used for development of the next stages of modernization. To date, five of them Su-25SM have been lost.

       The price of works on modernization of the plane defined in 350.2 mln. (in this case it does not include suspended containers Jammer electronic countermeasures complex "Vitebsk-25"), the total initial price of the contract is set at 1,751 billion rubles. Performance time is defined by 25 November 2016.

       The modernization will be carried out in accordance with approved in 2015. 81.0000.M.010.998 specifications, which are available for review as part of the auction documentation.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1608752.html

    I'm not sure how to read this. Are the SM3 modernization (5), of those previously modernized to SM standard or other aircraft all together?

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