Su-30 for Russian Air Force

mack8 wrote:Tens of pics of the newest SMs:
http://wizarden.livejournal.com/102407.html

And bmpd article "8 Su-30SM in one day":
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1739216.html

Finally, a new export variant called Su-30SME has been unveiled at Singapore Air Show.

George1 wrote:Russia to Replace All Su-24's With Su-30SM's in Black Sea Fleet by 2020[/b]

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160303/1035707898/crimea-su-30sm-su-24.html#ixzz41qVUlTJW

AlfaT8 wrote:

George1 wrote:Russia to Replace All Su-24's With Su-30SM's in Black Sea Fleet by 2020[/b]

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160303/1035707898/crimea-su-30sm-su-24.html#ixzz41qVUlTJW

How odd, wouldn't the SU-34 be the proper replacement, i get that the SU-30SM is a good all-rounder, but does it have the much vaunted SVP-24 targeting system??

medo wrote:

AlfaT8 wrote:

George1 wrote:Russia to Replace All Su-24's With Su-30SM's in Black Sea Fleet by 2020[/b]

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160303/1035707898/crimea-su-30sm-su-24.html#ixzz41qVUlTJW

How odd, wouldn't the SU-34 be the proper replacement, i get that the SU-30SM is a good all-rounder, but does it have the much vaunted SVP-24 targeting system??

No, Su-30SM is better as it will replace both Su-24 and Su-27 in RuNAVY. Su-30SM doesn't have SVP-24 as it is upgrade kit, but its Fire Control Complex with GLONASS satnav is same capable in using free fall bombs from high altitude as SVP-24. In anti-ship role Su-30SM is no worse than Su-34, but in air combat it is far better.

azw wrote:is wikipedia source is accurate about the number of plane russian has and is all su-27 in soviet era still in service?
29
and how you guy differentiate between su-27/30/35 because if i'm not mistake all come from the same t-10 airframe.
i cannot see the difference especially su-27 and su-35 except for su-30/sm/mki/mkm because they had canard.

and from wiki su-30sm is derivative from mkm/mki with all russian made avionic.
compared to SME and MKI/MKM any major improvement especially targeting pod? I read somewhere before that russian very bad in thermal imaging..that why India and Malaysia use France version.

azw wrote:thanks...but well, russia fighter really confusing
and I thought Russia had used targeting pod for their aircraft bcos i see some photo of russia su-30 with targeting pod. but i dont know if those targeting pod was russian made or license produce of france thales.

and sorry if post are not related to RuAF acquisition of this plane..

sepheronx wrote:Is this an additional 30+ to the 60-75 or did they cut order? Or do you think they will order another 30-35 later for 2020?

medo wrote:There is a little catch here in 30+ and it is a +. We do not know, how much more than 30 this could be. I would also expect, that soon will follow another contract like the first two contracts, where the second contract follow quite quickly after the first for the first 60 fighters.

mack8 wrote:According to bmpd, this contract is indeed for 36 Su-30SM, bringing the totals to 96 for VKS and 20 for VMF, of which 56 and 8 respectively are already delivered (hope i got that right).
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1828574.html

George1 wrote:delivered today?