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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  medo on Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:53 pm



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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  Militarov on Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:20 pm

    medo wrote:Excellent infograph, although I'm not sure if Iraq have any Su-30. Considering Su-30SM will be main ground based fighter-bomber of Russian NAVY, I would really like to see there Oniks and Kalibr missiles too. I wonder if Su-30SM could use KAB-500S satellite guided bombs?

    Iraq does not operate any SU30s, they however were interested in obtaining them back in 2014. however they do not have any atm, not sure how Iraq ended being on the map of users. They can use every variation of KAB family including S/SE. I guess we can expect them in future to get Brahmos air launched variant maybe too.

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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  AK-Rex on Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:44 pm

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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  medo on Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:27 pm

    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2639457

    МИНСК, 4 февраля. /Корр. ТАСС Юрий Шамшур/. Белоруссия и Россия достигли предварительной договоренности о поставке для нужд белорусских ВВС и войск ПВО российских истребителей Су-30, которые заменят стоящие на вооружении МиГ-29. Об этом сообщил в четверг заместитель министра обороны республики генерал-майор Игорь Лотенков. "Возможности же по уничтожению воздушных целей после приобретения Су-30 увеличатся, а боевые задачи за счет большего тактического радиуса можно будет выполнить с любого аэродрома страны", - приводит его высказывания газета "СБ. Беларусь сегодня".
    Подробнее на ТАСС:
    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2639457

    Belarus plan to buy Su-30SM fighters to replace their old MiG-29 jets.

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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  George1 on Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:58 pm

    franco finally arrived some of Su-30SM we have been waiting for russia

    Four Su-30SM joined regiment in Southern Russia


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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  franco on Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:06 pm

    George1 wrote:franco finally arrived some of Su-30SM we have been waiting for russia

    Four Su-30SM joined regiment in Southern Russia



    That makes 12 or the first squadron which hopefully will soon be operational. With a combat range of 1500 km, the planes out of Millerovo can cover from the Azerbaijan - Iran border on the Caspian Sea to the Russian - Estonian border on the Gulf of Finland.

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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  George1 on Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:07 am

    2 more new Su-30SM flew to Milerovo yesterday. That makes 14 there

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1735917.html

    Airplanes are built as part of March and December 2012 two contracts for the supply of each of 30 Su-30cm to Russian Air Forces (VKS) of Russia. Earlier in the period 2012-2016 for these contracts, Irkut has delivered to the Air Force (VCS) 48 Su-30cm.

    In addition, during the 2015 Irkut passed four Su-30cm for Kazakhstan (serial numbers 1118, 1119, 1120, 1201) and five Su-30cm for the Russian Navy Naval Aviation (serial numbers from 1202 to 1206). By the end of 2015 at the Irkut plant have been transferred for flight testing five Russian Su-30cm aircraft (serial numbers 1301 - 1303, 1305 and 1307) for the Air force, but none of them has not yet been delivered to the customer.


    So we have 50 Su-30SM delivered in total to the air force, out of 60 ordered. And there are also 5 more in flight tests to be delivered next days.


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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  George1 on Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:27 pm

    6 more Su-30SM at Millerovo today!!

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1737325.html

    According to the web-site forums.airforce.ru, February 13, 2016 from Irkutsk with intermediate landings took off for the trip to the airport Millerovo (Rostov region) immediately sent six VKS Russia new multifunctional fighters Su-30cm construction Irkutsk Aviation Plant (IAP) PAO "Corporation" Irkut ". This aircraft with red hull numbers" 02 "(serial number 1220)," 21 "(serial number 1301)," 22 "(serial number 1302)," 23 "(serial number 1303)," 25 "(serial number 1305) and" 27 "(serial number 1307). in the evening, February 13, these fighters have made a stopover at the airport Tolmachevo (Novosibirsk).

    We recall that the previous day, February 12, from Irkutsk Millerovo flew two Su-30cm new construction IAP with red hull numbers "26" (serial number 1306) and "28" (serial number 1308). All these eight aircraft must join the stationed at the airport 31-Millerovo Fighter Regiment of the 1st Mixed Aviation Division of the 4th Air Force and Air Defense Army of the Southern Military District.

    On their arrival the number of new Su-30SM as part of the 31st regiment should reach 20 units.

    Thus, Irkut production plan is completely closed for 2015 for the the Su-30cm fighter for the Air Force (FSI) of Russia, took to the air in 2015, 22 of this type of aircraft. Total thus in the period 2012-2016 entered service with (VCS) 56 Su-30SM.

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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  mack8 on Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:35 am

    Tens of pics of the newest SMs:
    http://wizarden.livejournal.com/102407.html

    And bmpd article "8 Su-30SM in one day":
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1739216.html

    Finally, a new export variant called Su-30SME has been unveiled at Singapore Air Show.



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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  medo on Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:01 pm

    mack8 wrote:Tens of pics of the newest SMs:
    http://wizarden.livejournal.com/102407.html

    And bmpd article "8 Su-30SM in one day":
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1739216.html

    Finally, a new export variant called Su-30SME has been unveiled at Singapore Air Show.



    It's interesting, that they show export variant called Su-30SME. Looks like Su-30MKI/MKM with fully Russian equipment without French or Israeli components.

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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  medo on Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:31 pm

    http://fuerzasarmadasdelmundo2015.blogspot.si/2016/02/sukhoi-30mk2-vs-f-16-block-50-sukhoi.html

    Sukhoi-30MK2 Venezuelan vs F 16 Block 50 Chilean.
    -F 16 BLOCK 50 PEACE PUMA Radar APG-68 (V) 9 Range: 300km detect 10 targets can attack four targets simultaneously detects a type of aircraft MIG-29 to 140km a Mirage 2000 90km tracks in any of 120 degrees
    -SUKHOI-30MK2 Radar N001VEP (RLPK-27VEP) there is always confusion about the extent some people tend to confuse N001VE (RLPK-27VE) with N001VEP (RLPK-27VEP) N001VEP is the improved SU-30MKK N001VE having a range of 250km the N001VEP (RLPK-27VEP) has a range of 300km can detect 10 targets to attack at 4 targets simultaneously tracks at an angle of 120 degrees in Venezuela has detected an F-16A Block 15 160km and another SU- 30 200km. The radar looks down and up systems with anti-jamming features.
    -The Motor F 16 BLOCK 50 PEACE PUMA engine F110-GE-129 to a maximum operating speed of 2,414 km / h (Mach 2+)
    SU-30MK2 motors of turbofan Lyulka Saturn AL-31F a maximum operating speed (VNO): 2,120 km / h (Mach 2+) but in a post FAV CLUB gives us a top speed of 2,500km although this is highly questioned and that manufacturer data gives us Mach 2.1
    Electronic Warfare System AN / ALQ-211 F 16 50 PEACE BLOCK PUMA


    The choice of FACh for electronic warfare system was very clear, they chose the system ITT AN / ALQ-211 (V) 4 known as SIRFC (Suite of Integrated Radiofrequency Countermeasures) or AIDEWS (Advanced Integrated Defensive Electronic Warfare Suite) system developed for the Apache AH-64D Longbow helicopters and other US Army, which will also be used by the F-16 Oman. This is a fairly sophisticated system that detects virtually any type of electromagnetic emission passive mode is a ground surveillance radar, radar airborne or radar missile, regardless of whether it is monopulse emissions, doppler or wave keep going. Detected emission, the system automatically analyzes and verifies 10 parameters of it, not only to identify but also to save to an electronic library, which can then allow, among other things, form a true map of emissions, this in view future attack missions, SEAD or recognition.
    Once the signal has been detected, located and analyzed, a fact that happens in a few seconds the system generates a specific electronic interference and almost "tailored" to interfere or block the issuer.
    Pod of Electronic Warfare (EW) at the ends wings. Those who use our SU-30MK2 are Sorbtsiya SPS-171 L-005-S ECM
    Flankers entail new wingtip pod mounted with defensive disturbing (ECM) KNIRTI PLC- 171 / L005S Sorbtsiya-S medium and high band, this system is an evolution of a disturbing developed for the Backfire C Sorbtsiya-S unlike most pods Western interference, it is designed to operate in pairs and uses forward and backward looking matrices steerable phased broadband to maximize the interference effect, a similar package arrangement Eurofighter EWSP it is worth noting that the Sorbtsiya is clearly built to provide cross modes against monopulse threats disturbance, and ability to address the main lobe bandwidth provided by permits phase arrangements best possible use of the interference power available
    a graded dielectric lens is used. Russian contractors have recently been using digital RF memory (DRFM), which is of the same generation as the US IDECM EWSP, and competing with the Israeli systems in their rapid integration of jammers modern specifically: Memory of digital radio frequency or blockers base (DRFM) these blockers can capture and replicate at high speed radars air interception may return signals leaving aircraft blind combat in the most critical moments of the fight using navigation systems that can negate any capacity the first shot finally the size of the stick does not matter because technology has changed the first advantage of injection to the opponents .



    Radar Warning Receiver with Block Designation White
    TsKBA Avtomatika L-150 Cake with block TUEs

    It is a digital computer that uses technology superheterodyne reception for the reconstruction of the carrier frequency of the radar detectador Pie in the Su-30MK2 is comprised of a total of 10 antennas, 4 DF antennas, required for the azimuth (2 plane and the tail cone 2 on the leading edge slats), 4 antennas for the rough measurement in the same plane and two lifting antennas.

    The covered azimuth sector is completely spherical 360 and lifting is ± 30 °, the frequency bands covered include 1, 2 to 18 GHz. The accuracy of finding is 2 to 3 ° azimuth in the frequency band 8 18 GHz, with antennas precision in a sector of ± 60 ° in the front and rear hemispheres and 10 ° in the other sectors. In the frequency bands 4 to 8 GHz, in a sector of 60 ° in front and rear hemisphere is 5th and in other sectors of 15 °. For the low frequency range of 1, 2 to 4 GHz detection accuracy is 15 degrees in all sectors. The memory bank radar emissions includes more than 128 different issuers. Cake can operate in 3 different modes, 2 of them for determination of situational awareness and one for the attack ground targets type radar transmitters in conjunction with the TUE system. The total weight of the equipment is 47, 2 Kg.

    For designating targets for anti-radiation missiles expansion block called TUEs, which controls up to 6 anti-radiation missiles simultaneously, and provides target designation in a cone of ± 30 ° in azimuth and elevation +5 to -40 ° is used, working in 3 different modes with maximum accuracy of 15% of the estimated distance. Both teams find interconnected with flares launchers and radar chaff decoys APP-50P / A disturbance and nacelles.

    If we talk about combat (BVR) or beyond visual range the SU-30MK2 first detected the F 16 but affordable range of BVR both SU-30MK2 and F 16 is 130km course not shoot one BVR his greater reach BVR broader FACH is the AIM-120 AMRAAM C-7 130km is fire and forget although it has created a myth the AIM-120 AMRAAM C-7 will load data of attitude, speed and location white is a lie that the small internal radar AIM-120-C 7 detects a type of aircraft SU-30MK2 120km the Royar Air Force in tests found that with older aircraft with discontinued systems is effective but against aircraft that have advanced systems that can detect AIM-120-C-7 to time it loses effectiveness so they deciding to use the option of transmitting contantes data to the missile AIM-120-C-7 has a GPS system the BVR far-reaching Venezuela is the R-27er 130km missile launcher constantly receives data plane which gives a greater chance of success. Although this is a missile with a semi-radar missiles activoTambién SARH are very deadly in narrower ranges (R-27 vs R-77, Sparrow vs. AMRAAM). The reason for this is that the radar fighter emits far more energy than the radar seeker missile While in the wing, the missile seeker SARH closed much faster than the missile seeker ARH going to take a bit of latency " looking for "the goal before it gets a lock on the SARH missile, on the other hand, it can be" snap "shot
    Once fired, the missile SARH not reveal its position RWR the target, because it is completely passive. RWR target only tell where the direction of the radiant fighter and how close the radar fighter who is radiographed target This means that you do not know how to evade the incoming missile. The ARH missile could alert the RWR when going active and where it comes from, allowing the object of an evasive maneuver
    Sukhoi-30MK2 has the IRST / LASER OEPS-27 is a system for detecting and tracking aerial targets with IR up to 90 km and a laser rangefinder for light air and ground targets to aim the cannon, bombs and missiles The F16 BLOCK 50 PEACE PUMA lacks this type of own system IRST / LASER OEPS-27 tests in Russia could detect an albatross 30km it is also effective for detecting BVR BVR missiles since the time of shooting to generate a large kinetic force. Supposedly The R-73 ESIGNATION NATO AA-11 Archer is better than the AIM-9 because the R-73 has a system that can make the difference between a flare and a nozzle here the explanation of an already old program aces future military combat experts of the United States give the eye no explanation to say they are Russians.

    Su-30MK2 an Indonesian mean he gets to the tail of an F-18E Super Hornet in the recent Australian aerial maneuvers Pitch Black II
    http://fdra.blogspot.com/2013/08/foto-del-dia-su-30mk2-las-6-en-punto.html
    In the exercises Pitch Black Sukhoi-30MK2 II.Los Indonesian defeated the F-18E Super Hornet that many more modern than an F-16 BLOCK 50 PEACE PUMA many tend to say good because the F-18E Super Hornet is an on-board the aircraft these further from reality the F-18E Super Hornet is the 4 ++ western aircraft with lower radar signature was made to be a pure combat aircraft. In cabin Sukhoi-30MK2 uses less analog instruments F 16 BLOCK 50 There must remember that several of the pilots of the Su-30MK2 were operating the F system 16 Block 15 clear that less than F 16 Block 50 Venezuelan pilots know well that system to other always do combat training between the Su-30 and F 16
    Knowing the best radar of an aircraft multi-role fighter in Latin America Radar SUKHOI30MK2
    SUKHIO radar-SU 30MK2 is the N001VEP (RLPK-27VEP monopulse pulse Doppler type with a range of 300km which is an improvement of N001VE (RLPK-27VE) having a alance 250km
    The N001VEP (RLPK-27VEP has the same characteristics (N001VE (RLPK-27VE) This will substantially improve the performance of air to air and increase the air-ground resolution. N001VE incorporated the moving target indication (MTI) and mapping capabilities, and the ability to detect low-flying or hovering helicopters. Processor series Baguet replaced BCVM-486-6, suitable for two out of ten simultaneously tracked targets with semi-active homing air-to-air radar, and the following distance is extended to 70 km. 250km)
    N001VEP (RLPK-27VEP: Processor replaced Baguet 55 to 04.02, able to simultaneously track 10 targets and engage four air targets or two ground targets 10 series tracked and Detection covers against fighter aircraft, detection range 150 km against the bomber extended to 300 km. what gives R-77 compatibility.
    In Venezuela the SUKHOI30MK2 detected the F 16th 160km and other SUKHOI-30MK2 to 219km can detect a frigate or a type exports 300km 75km ural truck and a tank type T 72 to 80-85km.
    This has been tested for more than 200 hours compared with other radars in the region APG-68 (V9) operated by the 10 F 16 BLOCK 50 of the FACH - with a range of 300 km can detect an aircraft type MIG 29 and SU-30 to 140km an airplane as a Mirage 2000 90km radar acquires 4 white and detected 16 white the AN / APG-66 (V) 2nd of the 36 F 16 MLU FACH has a range of 144km can detect a plane as a MIG 29 and SU-30 80km 35km one Mirage 2000.
    Doppler radar pulse rate Monopulse N-001VEP with a Cassegrain antenna inverted operating in bands I / J, and designed by the NIIP Tikhomirov Institute, it is a modernization of components and software of the original radar N-001 Myech, installed in the plane 1985. Development completed in 2003, within the framework of Pandade program includes multi-stage improvements applied to the original radar (starting from N-001VE model installed in the previous version, the Su-30MKK) the N-001VEP introduces changes consideration of the original search radar capabilities to increase air / air the same combat and combat capabilities introduce air / ground
    a) The introduction of a new computer called radar data BTsVM-486-6 of OAO Elara, built around Intel CPU technology type 486DX2-50, AMD 486DX4-100, AMX5X86-133 and graphics processors to Intel 80860-25 allow the creation of a radar mode for use missile R-77 and run the old software from old computers STsV-1 and STsV-2 used in the radar.
    b) To allow the interconnection of all computers in the radar with the other elements of the same control device data buses called N-001-04 is introduced. This equipment allows the free exchange of information in different computer languages ​​(C ++ used the new computer architecture and assembler POISK of the above), through the radar, facilitating integration work.
    c) The introduction of a programmable digital signal processor called Baget 55.04.02 NIISI developed by RAN and a new low-frequency digital receiver called N-001-03VP-2 which allow the digitization of information received by the radar in its receptor and the formation of new modes of air / ground advanced (SAR, DBS, GMTI, RBM, SEA) work.
    With these new additions the radar gain new capabilities in air / ground combat allowing the use of anti-ship radar-guided missile, which was not possible in the previous Su-30MKK and significantly improve air / air services by introducing the guided missile R-77 active. however it is said that the improvement of characteristics is mainly oriented to air / ground and capabilities air / air field are improved slightly.
    For its performance air / air, the pilot can use up to 4 modes combat beyond the horizon (called PPS, ZPS, Avt and 2x1) and 2 close combat modes (Optika and Vertikal) ..
    The radar automatically tracks in Transvisual combat modes up to 10 targets, analyzing their dangerousness based on the approach speed of the white (or distance, depending on the mode), as well as their electronic identity through the use of the IFF system. In case of emergence of a new contact one, once the top 10 contacts to follow are complete in the memory of the radar, it will perform a sequence reassessment of contacts, eliminating the less dangerous contact and classifying new in accordance with others . The radar scans in 4 bars elevation and azimuth in a non-variable pattern of ± 25 ° in azimuth (horizontal plane), being possible three sectors scan (left, center, right) to guide the search airspace. The maximum scanning in azimuth is ± 60 ° and ± 55 in elevation. The radar uses repetition frequencies of medium and high pulses depending on the mode.
    For use air / surface search both as monitoring and attack, the radar uses two high-resolution modes: synthetic aperture (with unknown resolutions) and Doppler beam narrowing.
    For tracking moving targets, such as land vehicles of all kinds, the display mode of moving targets on the ground is used, while a mode planimetric tracking actual beam, without complex signal processing is used for updates in the navigation system or cartographic references. For the use of weapons air / sea, radar has several modes air / surface designed to suppress the clutter and confusion of echoes from the waves and adjust the receiver sensitivity to climate change and noise random background radar.
    For the attack on targets at long range, the Su-30MK2 can make use of Kh-59ME missiles. High subsonic cruise speed type, this missile uses an electro-optical seeker capable of transmitting information to the launcher aircraft using a data link two way. Reception by a pod called APK-9E carried by the aircraft. During the planning of the mission, the target coordinates are entered into the system or directly obtained by the radar N-Su-30MK2 001VEP of. These coordinates are downloaded to the unit guided missile and proper distance is fired, seleccionándosepreviamente one of four heights cruise flight on the ground, which can be 100, 200, 600 or 1000 meters, whereas if it is launched on water automatically flies to 50 meters above the waves, thanks to a radio altimeter. A 5 -10 km from the target, the missile initiates the transmission of the image of your browser bearer plane which may be moving away from the danger zone. The APK-9E includes front and rear antennas and radio control has a range of over 140 km. The operator weapon systems in the Su-30MK2, use search options and engage the missile seeker to select detail white and attack, making the guided until the last minute using a crosshair aiming or you can allow automatic attack in the traditional way. You can make use of two warheads, a high explosive penetrator 320 kg or a cluster of 280 kg. The missile uses an R-95 ™-300 turbofan thrust of 350 kg as cruise engine.
    Now on some pages of Facebook or some people tend to confuse evil N001VE (RLPK-27VE) using the SU-30MKK with a range of 250km with the SU-30MK2 N001VEP (RLPK-27VEP with a range of 300km say that the N001VEP (RLPK-27VEP is similar to the AN / APG-66 (V) 2nd which is false the N001VEP (RLPK-27VEP exceeds said radar detection range greater capacity and other qualities.

    From google translator, original text is in Spanish. If someone speak Spanish, could repair google translation nonsenses.

    Interesting is, that Venezuelan Su-30MK2 have exercises with Chilean F-16C/D Block 50/52 fighters armed with AIM-120C7 AMRAAM missiles, actually same planes as TuAF have at Syrian border. Indonesian Su-30MK2 have similar exercise with Australian F/A-18E. It seems that AIM-120C7 is not such big treat and with good ECM equipment opponent could well degrade it. AIM-120C7 and R-27ER have similar range although R-27ER is SARH missile.

    More interesting are information for N001VEP radar given by Venezuelans. It looks like usual informations for N001VEP are actually for N001VE radar. By Venezuelan claims N001VEP detect F-16 Block 15 at 160 km range and other Su-30MK2 at 219 km. It detect frigate ship at 300 km and on the ground radar detect Ural truck at 75 km and T-72 tank at 80 to 85 km. It can track 10 targets and engage simultaneously 2 targets in SARH and 4 targets in ARH.

    If Venezuelan N001VEP have such capabilities, than there is a good question if RuAF N001VP in Su-30M2 and in Su-27SM have even better capabilities. I think Su-27SM3, which is lighter and have more powerful engines than Su-30MK2, is still one of the top fighters and we should not dismiss Su-27SM3 and Su-30M2 yet. Considering economical collapse, which the west is facing, there will not be much of extremely expensive fifth gen fighters around and for the rest of opponents they are still more than good response.

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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  medo on Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:18 pm



    One of the last Su-30M2 b/n 90.

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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  medo on Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:42 pm



    New 80 and 90 Su-30M2 in Krymsk air base.

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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  George1 on Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:40 pm

    RuAF pilots of Krymsk a/base learn new Su-30M2 fighters that replace old Su-27s



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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  azw on Tue Mar 08, 2016 6:36 pm

    is wikipedia source is accurate about the number of plane russian has and is all su-27 in soviet era still in service?

    and how you guy differentiate between su-27/30/35 because if i'm not mistake all come from the same t-10 airframe.
    i cannot see the difference especially su-27 and su-35 except for su-30/sm/mki/mkm because they had canard.

    and from wiki su-30sm is derivative from mkm/mki with all russian made avionic.
    compared to SME and MKI/MKM any major improvement especially targeting pod? I read somewhere before that russian very bad in thermal imaging..that why India and Malaysia use France version.

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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  medo on Tue Mar 08, 2016 7:37 pm

    azw wrote:is wikipedia source is accurate about the number of plane russian has and is all su-27 in soviet era still in service?
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    and how you guy differentiate between su-27/30/35 because if i'm not mistake all come from the same t-10 airframe.
    i cannot see the difference especially su-27 and su-35 except for su-30/sm/mki/mkm because they had canard.

    and from wiki su-30sm is derivative from mkm/mki with all russian made avionic.
    compared to SME and MKI/MKM any major improvement especially targeting pod? I read somewhere before that russian very bad in thermal imaging..that why India and Malaysia use France version.

    The most easy way to differentiate Su-30 and Su-35 from Su-27 variants is by twin nose wheel and IFR probe on Su-30 variants and Su-35. Su-27 have single nose wheel and doesn't have IFR capabilities. Su-30SM also have canards and Su-30SM and Su-35 have engines with TVC. Su-30 was developed from twin seater Su-27UB and Su-35 was developed from single seater Su-27.

    Su-30SM is domestic fully Russian version for RuAF and RuNAVY of Su-30MKI/MKM, made by Irkut. Malaysia use French equipment, India use Israeli equipment and Israeli Litening targeting pod. Russia for now doesn't use targeting pods, but one is in testings with MiG-35/29M. Most probably this pod will also be installed on Su-30 and Su-35 fighters.

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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  azw on Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:06 pm

    thanks...but well, russia fighter really confusing Razz
    and I thought Russia had used targeting pod for their aircraft bcos i see some photo of russia su-30 with targeting pod. but i dont know if those targeting pod was russian made or license produce of france thales.

    and sorry if post are not related to RuAF acquisition of this plane..

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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  Book. on Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:34 pm

    azw wrote:thanks...but well, russia fighter really confusing Razz
    and I thought Russia had used targeting pod for their aircraft bcos i see some photo of russia su-30 with targeting pod. but i dont know if those targeting pod was russian made or license produce of france thales.

    and sorry if post are not related to RuAF acquisition of this plane..

    Ru can build EO pod



    Ru IRST work like EO pod. Su 27/30



    Ru Su-34 LTPS Plantan EO pod


    Ru Mig 29 T220 EO pod



    Ok have fun the RD!  cheers  russia

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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:42 am

    Russia to Replace All Su-24's With Su-30SM's in Black Sea Fleet by 2020


    http://sputniknews.com/military/20160303/1035707898/crimea-su-30sm-su-24.html


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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  George1 on Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:53 pm

    Flying High: Russian Aerospace Forces to Get Over 30 Su-30SM Fighter Jets

    The Russian Aerospace Forces will be reinforced by more than 30 multirole Su-30SM fighter jets, according to a new contract.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — The Russian Defense Ministry and the Irkut aircraft manufacturer have signed a contract to supply over 30 multipurpose Sukhoi Su-30SM fighter jets to the Russian Aerospace Forces by the end of 2018, the ministry's press service said in a statement Sunday.

    "The Russian Defense Ministry and the Irkut Corporation have signed a contract to supply multipurpose Su-30SM fighters to the Russian Aerospace Forces… According to the terms of the contract, over 30 multipurpose Su-30SM fighters will be delivered [to the Russian Aerospace Forces] by the end of 2018," the statement said.

    The contract for the supply was signed by Russian Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borisov and President of Irkut Corporation Oleg Demchenko.

    The Su-30SM is a 4++ generation fighter jet, developed by Russia's Sukhoi Aviation Holding Company.

    It is a two-seat derivative of the earlier Su-27UB (NATO reporting name: Flanker) capable of air-to-air and air-to-ground missions with a wide variety of precision-guided munitions. The aircraft features thrust-vectoring engines to enhance maneuverability.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160403/1037402311/su-30-russian-aerospace-forces-video.html#ixzz44lA8laz3


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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  franco on Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:55 pm

    Contract signed for another 30+ Su-30SM's before end of 2018. Not the 60-75 that was talked about.

    http://tass.ru/en/defense/866841

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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  sepheronx on Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:23 pm

    Is this an additional 30+ to the 60-75 or did they cut order? Or do you think they will order another 30-35 later for 2020?

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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  franco on Sun Apr 03, 2016 3:07 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Is this an additional 30+ to the 60-75 or did they cut order? Or do you think they will order another 30-35 later for 2020?

    Cut a new order, there never was an order for 60-75 just that they would be doing so by 2020. This order is through 2018 so another order for 2019 and 2020 could still come.

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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  medo on Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:27 pm

    There is a little catch here in 30+ and it is a +. We do not know, how much more than 30 this could be. I would also expect, that soon will follow another contract like the first two contracts, where the second contract follow quite quickly after the first for the first 60 fighters.

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    Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  franco on Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:35 pm

    medo wrote:There is a little catch here in 30+ and it is a +. We do not know, how much more than 30 this could be. I would also expect, that soon will follow another contract like the first two contracts, where the second contract follow quite quickly after the first for the first 60 fighters.

    Agreed and suspect the 30+ = 36 aircraft or 3 squadrons.

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