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    Su-30 for Russian Air Force

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:24 am

    Su-30SM will eventually receive fifth-generation technologies
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    Post  Book. Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:44 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:Polite humanitarian convoy to Syria. Sukhoi Akbar, Russia Akbar Putin Akbar Smile



    Ru af the syria!


    GunshipDemocracy wrote:and Manduro want  to buy at least 12 Su-30. Howeverr maybe it woudl be bnetter to buy48 Yak supersonic fighters?

    http://ria.ru/world/20150921/1268547808.html

    Venuz to buy 12x Su 30? wow! cheers
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    Post  medo Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:52 pm

    It is quite interesting to see, how the west was surprised and no one actually know when and where Su-30SM fly to Syria and that no one actually detect them. Considering, that NATO have a lot of radars in Turkey and US have their radars in Jordan and full control of Iraqi air space through their coalition flights against ISIS and AWACS control. They detect Su-24 and Su-25 later, but Su-30SM surprise them. I wonder if RuAF Su-30SM also have RAM coat like Su-34 and Su-35 have to reduce their RCS to around 1 m2. If correct, than this could prove, that Russian RAM works against western radars and combined with SAP-518 ECM pods Su-30SM could be a real problem for western fighters. I don't think export Su-30MKI/MKM have RAM coat, but domestic Su-30Sm could have.
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    Post  Stealthflanker Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:37 pm

    medo wrote:It is quite interesting to see, how the west was surprised and no one actually know when and where Su-30SM fly to Syria and that no one actually detect them. Considering, that NATO have a lot of radars in Turkey and US have their radars in Jordan and full control of Iraqi air space through their coalition flights against ISIS and AWACS control. They detect Su-24 and Su-25 later, but Su-30SM surprise them. I wonder if RuAF Su-30SM also have RAM coat like Su-34 and Su-35 have to reduce their RCS to around 1 m2. If correct, than this could prove, that Russian RAM works against western radars and combined with SAP-518 ECM pods Su-30SM could be a real problem for western fighters. I don't think export Su-30MKI/MKM have RAM coat, but domestic Su-30Sm could have.

    well they may have radars, nonetheless NCTR (Non Cooperative Target Recognition) Still not a common feature to today's radar especially air surveillance one. My guess however is that those Su-30's are detected but not identified or those Su-30's "tagging" along larger aircraft in such a distance that it cannot be resolved by the surveillance radar..the larger aircraft's RCS will mask those Su-30SM's

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:02 pm

    medo wrote:It is quite interesting to see, how the west was surprised and no one actually know when and where Su-30SM fly to Syria and that no one actually detect them. Considering, that NATO have a lot of radars in Turkey and US have their radars in Jordan and full control of Iraqi air space through their coalition flights against ISIS and AWACS control. They detect Su-24 and Su-25 later, but Su-30SM surprise them. I wonder if RuAF Su-30SM also have RAM coat like Su-34 and Su-35 have to reduce their RCS to around 1 m2. If correct, than this could prove, that Russian RAM works against western radars and combined with SAP-518 ECM pods Su-30SM could be a real problem for western fighters. I don't think export Su-30MKI/MKM have RAM coat, but domestic Su-30Sm could have.

    Three  is still 8 more in Syria, only cloak is still on Smile thankt to KRET

    BTW yes I am big fan of Su-30SM and upgrading them with V gen technology is a very good move.
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    Post  mack8 Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:56 pm

    VMF Su-30SMs borts 40, 41 and 42 on their way to delivery at 43 OMShAP stationed in Saki, Crimea.
    http://vonsolovey.livejournal.com/77514.html
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    Post  George1 Thu Oct 01, 2015 8:12 am

    mack8 wrote:VMF Su-30SMs borts 40, 41 and 42 on their way to delivery at  43 OMShAP stationed in Saki, Crimea.
    http://vonsolovey.livejournal.com/77514.html

    Confirmed today http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1498823.html

    So 8 in total Su-30SMs for Naval Aviation
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    Post  George1 Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:21 am

    Naval squadron formed in the Crimea from the Su-30SMs

    Currently, as part of the Black Sea Fleet Naval Aviation has 8 units of Su-30SM. In accordance with the plan of renovation of the fleet fighters should gradually replace the Sukhoi Su-24, which form the basis of the aviation component of the Black Sea Fleet.
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    Post  George1 Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:46 pm

    Here says that last week Su-30SM also delivered. Does anyone have any info??

    http://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12060394@egNews
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    Post  George1 Wed Oct 14, 2015 1:42 pm

    First 2015 built Su-30SM for RuAF flew to Millerovo Air Base.

    In the near future in the 31st Regiment Millerovo should fly 2 more ready Su-30SM.

    Some interesting points:

    1. This base composed of MiG-29s will be rearmed with Su-30SM and Su-35S
    2. In addition, until the end of 2015 in Millerovo will put another new 16 Su-30SMs
    3. Plans for the replacement by the end of 2016, of the MiG-29s of Russian airbase in Erebuni (Armenia) by new ordered MiG -29SMTs.
    4. MiG-29 (aircraft types 9-12 and 9-13) career in the combat units of the RuAF has come to its end.
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    Post  sepheronx Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:42 pm

    So all MiG-29's of old design will just be retired or are they going to be thoroughly uograded? Cause it looks like Russia is going for UBM as well, no? If not and they are just headed to storage, maybe it is in their best interest to donate working units or ones easily repairable to Syrian airforce.
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    Post  George1 Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:02 pm

    sepheronx wrote:So all MiG-29's of old design will just be retired or are they going to be thoroughly uograded? Cause it looks like Russia is going for UBM as well, no?  If not and they are just headed to storage, maybe it is in their best interest to donate working units or ones easily repairable to Syrian airforce.

    i think they are going to be retired. I think its too late for an upgrade program
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    Post  zg18 Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:41 pm

    George1 wrote:First 2015 built Su-30SM for RuAF flew to Millerovo Air Base.

    In the near future in the 31st Regiment Millerovo should fly 2 more ready Su-30SM.

    First pic of Su-30SM pieces for 31st fighter regiment

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    Post  franco Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:56 pm

    George1 wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:So all MiG-29's of old design will just be retired or are they going to be thoroughly uograded? Cause it looks like Russia is going for UBM as well, no?  If not and they are just headed to storage, maybe it is in their best interest to donate working units or ones easily repairable to Syrian airforce.

    i think they are going to be retired. I think its too late for an upgrade program

    Wonder if this impacts the Mig-35's as Millerovo looked like home?
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    Post  Cyberspec Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:13 am

    Su-30SM squadron was formed in Crimea


    Russian Aviaton » Wednesday October 14, 2015 18:19 MSK

    An independent assault aviation regiment of the Black Sea Fleet took delivery of three Su-30SM multi-role fighters, press-service of Russian Ministry of Defense reports.

    “The jets are stationed at Saki airfield; their crews are preparing to perform flights in accordance with a program for putting new vehicles into service,” said in the statement.
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    “At present naval aviation of the Black Sea Fleet operates 8 Su-30SM fighters. These jets form the Su-30SM squadron,” the press-service explained.

    http://www.ruaviation.com/news/2015/10/14/3600/
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    Post  Guest Mon Oct 19, 2015 4:27 pm

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    Survival kit inside pilot seat on SU30SM. Pics from Latakia by Murad Gazdiev.

    Actually its very similar to kit i have seen on Serbian Mig29s some years ago. Not identical tho.

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    Post  medo Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:38 pm

    Militarov wrote:Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 18 CRr5MnOWIAA5cox

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    Survival kit inside pilot seat on SU30SM. Pics from Latakia by Murad Gazdiev.

    Actually its very similar to kit i have seen on Serbian Mig29s some years ago. Not identical tho.


    Most probably this is a standard survival kit in Russian ejection seats in all Russian planes. I wonder, how they put all this in the seat.
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    Post  Guest Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:43 pm

    medo wrote:
    Militarov wrote:Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 18 CRr5MnOWIAA5cox

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    Survival kit inside pilot seat on SU30SM. Pics from Latakia by Murad Gazdiev.

    Actually its very similar to kit i have seen on Serbian Mig29s some years ago. Not identical tho.


    Most probably this is a standard survival kit in Russian ejection seats in all Russian planes. I wonder, how they put all this in the seat.

    Very carefully packed inside, i belive there are instructions even how to pack it.
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    Post  medo Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:57 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    medo wrote:
    Militarov wrote:Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 18 CRr5MnOWIAA5cox

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    Survival kit inside pilot seat on SU30SM. Pics from Latakia by Murad Gazdiev.

    Actually its very similar to kit i have seen on Serbian Mig29s some years ago. Not identical tho.


    Most probably this is a standard survival kit in Russian ejection seats in all Russian planes. I wonder, how they put all this in the seat.

    Very carefully packed inside, i belive there are instructions even how to pack it.

    Absolutely. There is also a parashut for pilot inside the seat.
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    From Syria, nice shot of missiles too.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:21 am

    Absolutely. There is also a parashut for pilot inside the seat.

    The standard ejection seat used in MiG-29s and Su-27s and later aircraft weigh about 230kgs from memory and include a survival kit and inflatable shelter that can be used as a life boat. It also includes an AKS-74 and ammo from memory.

    In the late 1980s or early 1990s there was a book specifically about the equipment included in the ejection seat...

    Note however the seat does not include a parachute for the pilot... the pilot wears that on his back. It does include stabiliser droge chutes for the seat and parachutes for the seat itself.
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    Post  Guest Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:43 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    Absolutely. There is also a parashut for pilot inside the seat.

    The standard ejection seat used in MiG-29s and Su-27s and later aircraft weigh about 230kgs from memory and include a survival kit and inflatable shelter that can be used as a life boat. It also includes an AKS-74 and ammo from memory.

    In the late 1980s or early 1990s there was a book specifically about the equipment included in the ejection seat...

    Note however the seat does not include a parachute for the pilot... the pilot wears that on his back. It does include stabiliser droge chutes for the seat and parachutes for the seat itself.

    Here pilots have CZ99 pistol in their kit, before they had M57 TT or Zastava M84 Scorpion depending on preference coz they were allowed to choose.
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    Post  medo Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:14 pm

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    Considering, that few months ago, when Indian Su-30MKI were in UK to have exercise with RAF Typhoons and British media than talk, that Su-30MKI was better because Typhoons were in training mode. On this picture you could find a switch for "Uchebny" and "Boevoy" (training and combat) in an engines control panel at the bottom of the pictures. I'm sure Indian Su-30MKI were also in training mode and not in combat mode, when having air combat exercise with Typhoons in UK. So these excuses in UK medias will not hold the water.
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    Post  sepheronx Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:39 pm

    Yes they were as India never uses their aircraft in combat mode during exercises as they dont want to.give things like radar signature. The UK are making excuses for their shoddy expensive aircraft.
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    Post  Guest Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:40 pm

    medo wrote:Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 18 Slika110

    Considering, that few months ago, when Indian Su-30MKI were in UK to have exercise with RAF Typhoons and British media than talk, that Su-30MKI was better because Typhoons were in training mode. On this picture you could find a switch for "Uchebny" and "Boevoy" (training and combat) in an engines control panel at the bottom of the pictures. I'm sure Indian Su-30MKI were also in training mode and not in combat mode, when having air combat exercise with Typhoons in UK. So these excuses in UK medias will not hold the water.

    Indians always  fly in training mode during international exercises, they did same on Red Flag and in India few years ago when they flew aganist Americans. Its way of preserving radar signature data.

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