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    EF Typhoon/Rafale vs Su-35S


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    Re: EF Typhoon/Rafale vs Su-35S

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:59 pm

    Ives wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    Ives wrote:
    Why do NATO fighters always carry tanks?

    Limited internal fuel capacity especially in single engine aircraft like the EF and F-16. A bigger fighter = more tankage.

    Typhoon is twin-engine.

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    Yup, stupid mistake by me. I should have said compact size rather than single engined. One of the main trade-offs when making the plane small is that internal tanks are very much reduced but when able to operate with air tankers this is not much of a problem especially when dealing with a non peer opponent.

    It becomes much more of a problem when those tankers become the really important first strike target forcing them to stand-off at much longer distances. Which brings us back to the thread topic. Perhaps an interesting SU-35 with its big tanks tactic will be to encourage the EF to burn more fuel. Nothing like a fuel low warning to distract a pilot!

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    Re: EF Typhoon/Rafale vs Su-35S

    Post  GarryB on Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:55 am

    The first things the Su-35 will be looking to take out with long range missiles are NATO inflight refuelling tankers and AWACS aircraft plus JSTARS.

    The ability to pull 9 gs depends on a lot of factors... at low flight speeds it is actually impossible to pull 9gs.

    At supersonic speeds most aircraft have more limited ability to pull gs too.

    The Flanker can't pull 9gs with full fuel tanks, but few external fuel tanks are rated for 9 gs anyway, so with external fuel it would have the same limitation.

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