@ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1486193/
The movie is very good on action & war machine visuals & depicts russian machinery on a large scale...but what about facts.

Movie starts & claims to be factual so I want some clarification from Russian sides about the said FACTUAL genocides by the Russian military in Georgia. Plus I also want some answers that was it the oil pipe line that Russian feared to be handed over to west that led to conflict

If Americans knew they were suffering because of all the US dollars and exports being sent to Georgia to buy them off as their friends......the US would be no more.


Not even Russia has stooped so low. Americans themselves would be over in Georgia killing them. How much are those Georgian boys getting paid to work for DOD in Iraq? Really....gave them US Civil Servant positions?....thought those jobs were reserved for Americans....ahhhh I see....

Hmmmm...see the Georgians making lots of Youtube video's driving around their new Japanese atvs that usually were sold in America....wow.....


America's suffering right now because the money's being used to buy friends around the world. Bill Clinton's Quadrennial Defense Review cut US military and used Billions over the years buying off dictators and countries.....awww...Americans lost their jobs? No homes?

It's ok....maybe they will end up America's friend....maybe they are like Vietnam and playing America as the sucker handing out free things trying to be their friends now.


""Genocide""....really? Why were +1 million Iraqi's killed? mmmmm oil.

Movie starts & claims to be factual so I want some clarification from Russian sides about the said FACTUAL genocides by the Russian military in Georgia. Plus I also want some answers that was it the oil pipe line that Russian feared to be handed over to west that led to conflict

First of all if the oil pipeline led to the conflict... why was it that it was Georgia that invaded South Ossetia and not Russia invading Georgia?

I haven't seen the movie but the claim initially from Georgia was that Russian forces were moving into South Ossetia in a big invasion.

The question then of course is how could the Georgian forces amass a force large enough not only to stop this Russian force but also push them back and hold them long enough to bombard the South Ossetian capital for 2 nights before the Russian forces so decisively pushed them back?

If the Georgians were fighting front line Russian armour why was most of their equipment and weapons artillery?


The facts are there was no Russian attack... it was a planned Georgian attack timed specifically to coincide with the opening ceremony of the olympic games in China... typically and traditionally a time of ceasefires and peace rather than a chance to invade and murder.

The Georgians used artillery because as far as they knew there were only some Russian paratroopers there are peace keepers and rather than fight them one on one they wanted to fight from a distance with artillery knowing their enemy had no heavy weapons.

Paratroops dropped behind enemy lines are generally dealt with the same way as they are usually well trained troops so firing at them with artillery is usually the best way to deal with them rather than drawing front line well equipped troops from the front to deal with them.

If the Georgians had ANY evidence of genocide they would have taken it to the various EU courts. They had no evidence at all... which is little surprise... they had been using UAVs to recon South Ossetia and Abkhazia for months before and now we know why... they wanted targets for their artillery and attacks.


And finally why would Russia "fear" a western pipeline through Georgia?

Have they bombed Iran?

Iran has pipelines taking oil from the Caspian Sea too. The west had no access to oil reserves there but Georgia offered a chance for them to take oil from the region... big deal. Hardly a problem for Russia.

It is a B movie for Rambo fans. Evil Ruskies are coming!

This was my favorite photo of the whole conflict:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-seizes-us-vehicles-902432.html

What a piece of crap that vehicle is eh? But 5 were free! Were they ever given back to the US? I find no news story since 2008.

The humvees were a bit of a joke when they first came out.

Their whole purpose was to replace the Jeep with something that was supposed to be a cross between an MRAP and a range rover.

In other words a protected vehicle that could go anywhere.

The result was a huge vehicle that was hard to manouver in narrow streets that was very heavy but not actually an armoured vehicle except in the even heavier armoured models that drank fuel like a sailor drinks booze.

AFAIK they were not returned... and neither should they be. When was the last time the west returned anything that was captured in war?

A classical american style movie .The bad guy shoots the bribe gets killed stuff like that, special georgian forces kill lots of bad guys .
The soldiers with the white bandana on the hand were chechen paramilitary fighting for Russia?
Do georgians have any hind helicopters in Afghanistan?

solo.13mmfmj wrote:
Do georgians have any hind helicopters in Afghanistan?

It certainly is possible the Georgians were hired via a Contract...to fly US helicopters in Afghanistan.

Would explain the loss of helicopters! ha ha ha!!