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Alright, here are fresh photos of the DAGESTAN frigate that will enter service later on this year.
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Gepard class frigate for Caspian Sea
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Excellent pictures. It seems Caspian flotilla will get Mahachkala and Dagestan in this year. When they expect to launch first Buyan-M ship?
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Caspian Flotilla Takes Delivery of Stealth Gunboat
19:49 16/04/2012
MOSCOW, April 16 (RIA Novosti)
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Russia’s Caspian Flotilla has taken delivery of a new small artillery ship that uses stealth technology, the Southern Military District press service said on Monday.
The warship was built at the St. Petersburg based Almaz shipyard and is armed with the A-190 artillery system, two AK-306 30-mm six-barrel machineguns and a Grad-M 40-tube 122-mm multiple rocket launch systems.
It has capability to effectively engage enemy warships and troops on the coast to clear the way for assault landing operations.
The warship, which uses stealth technology, can address a broad range of missions in the Caspian Sea, as well as hard-to-access parts of the water area.
http://www.en.ria.ru/mlitary_news/20120416/172860657.html
19:49 16/04/2012
MOSCOW, April 16 (RIA Novosti)
Tags: Russia
Russia’s Caspian Flotilla has taken delivery of a new small artillery ship that uses stealth technology, the Southern Military District press service said on Monday.
The warship was built at the St. Petersburg based Almaz shipyard and is armed with the A-190 artillery system, two AK-306 30-mm six-barrel machineguns and a Grad-M 40-tube 122-mm multiple rocket launch systems.
It has capability to effectively engage enemy warships and troops on the coast to clear the way for assault landing operations.
The warship, which uses stealth technology, can address a broad range of missions in the Caspian Sea, as well as hard-to-access parts of the water area.
http://www.en.ria.ru/mlitary_news/20120416/172860657.html
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Mahachkala?
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No. Makhachkala is not completed yet.
It must be Volgodonsk which was completed last year but had to wait in the Baltic until springtime to have it transfered and delivered to the Caspian Flotilla.
It must be Volgodonsk which was completed last year but had to wait in the Baltic until springtime to have it transfered and delivered to the Caspian Flotilla.
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I swear I keep hearing of the introduction of the Dagestan to service every few months for the last 2-3 years; how many times can it possibly be introduced?
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flamming_python wrote:I swear I keep hearing of the introduction of the Dagestan to service every few months for the last 2-3 years; how many times can it possibly be introduced?
Stupid media + gov trying to get constant credit for supposedly getting it done.
I noticed the same thing, they really went overboard with this one.
The other famous one is Su-25UBM trials
. If they actually made the headlines accurate: -Dagestan floated out; Dagestan fitting out; Dagestan finishing trials, etc , it would be less painful.
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Makhachkala in the water, behind is a ship for Border guard Zhemchug.
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Great video of Volgodonsk on weapons trials.
Interesting to see the two Iglas launched from the Gibbka system hitting their intended target that could be an incoming missile or more likely just a target flare.
EDit: Damn, why doesn't the video embed properly????
Interesting to see the two Iglas launched from the Gibbka system hitting their intended target that could be an incoming missile or more likely just a target flare.
EDit: Damn, why doesn't the video embed properly????
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Great vid.
I think Gibka is engaging a surface target.
I think Gibka is engaging a surface target.
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Nice vid...
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Caspian Flotilla to Receive New Corvettes
Russian Navy's Caspian Flotilla (CF) will receive new Project 21631 corvettes in May 2013, CF Commander Rear Admiral Sergei Alyokminsky said last weekend.
"New ships will arrive at the flotilla in May. It is Project 21631 corvettes based on the Project 630 gunnery ships but reinforced with Caliber missile system. We'll receive two ships of this kind every year", Alyokminsky told the Echo Moskvy Radio, adding that Caspian Flotilla would have a substantial missile/gun ship force by 2016, reports RIA Novosti.
It was earlier reported about construction of four Project 21631 corvettes at JSC Zelenodolsk Shipyard (Tatarstan, Russia). Lead ship of the series, Grad Sviyazhsk was laid down late in the summer of 2010. Keels of the other two ships, Uglich and Veliky Ustyug were laid down in the summer of 2011. Construction of the fourth corvette, Zeliony Dol started in the summer of 2012.
The fifth ship is expected to be keel-laid as well. That corvette can be named Hero City Volgograd in honor of 70-th anniversary of the Stalingrad Battle. The CF Commander is going to address to Southern Military District Commander and Russian Navy Commander-in-Chief with appropriate request.
Displacement of a Project 21631 corvette is 949 tons; full speed is 25 knots; fuel range at 12 knots is 2,500 nautical miles; crew is 52 men. It is a multirole 'river-sea' class ships designed for protection of Russia's economic zone. Comparing to Project 21630 gunnery ships, these corvettes are twice larger and equipped with missile weapons.
Probably, CF warships would pay an unofficial visit to Iran in 2013, reports the Echo Moskvy Radio.
The flotilla's commander explained that intention by an interest to Iranian Navy's development.
The latest visit of Soviet naval ships to Iran was held 40 years ago.
http://rusnavy.com/news/navy/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=16368
Russian Navy's Caspian Flotilla (CF) will receive new Project 21631 corvettes in May 2013, CF Commander Rear Admiral Sergei Alyokminsky said last weekend.
"New ships will arrive at the flotilla in May. It is Project 21631 corvettes based on the Project 630 gunnery ships but reinforced with Caliber missile system. We'll receive two ships of this kind every year", Alyokminsky told the Echo Moskvy Radio, adding that Caspian Flotilla would have a substantial missile/gun ship force by 2016, reports RIA Novosti.
It was earlier reported about construction of four Project 21631 corvettes at JSC Zelenodolsk Shipyard (Tatarstan, Russia). Lead ship of the series, Grad Sviyazhsk was laid down late in the summer of 2010. Keels of the other two ships, Uglich and Veliky Ustyug were laid down in the summer of 2011. Construction of the fourth corvette, Zeliony Dol started in the summer of 2012.
The fifth ship is expected to be keel-laid as well. That corvette can be named Hero City Volgograd in honor of 70-th anniversary of the Stalingrad Battle. The CF Commander is going to address to Southern Military District Commander and Russian Navy Commander-in-Chief with appropriate request.
Displacement of a Project 21631 corvette is 949 tons; full speed is 25 knots; fuel range at 12 knots is 2,500 nautical miles; crew is 52 men. It is a multirole 'river-sea' class ships designed for protection of Russia's economic zone. Comparing to Project 21630 gunnery ships, these corvettes are twice larger and equipped with missile weapons.
Probably, CF warships would pay an unofficial visit to Iran in 2013, reports the Echo Moskvy Radio.
The flotilla's commander explained that intention by an interest to Iranian Navy's development.
The latest visit of Soviet naval ships to Iran was held 40 years ago.
http://rusnavy.com/news/navy/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=16368
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I personally feel 11661 are more cost effective ships to fullfill the needs of navy but lacks mainly the 'glamour' associated with 20380s class that seems meant to fill the pockets of the guys having personal interest in severnya verf. Pr.20380 is neither cheap nor is it helping in force addition at a faster pace. I would love to see a new variant based on Vietnamese Gepard 3.9 with the following modification/addition -
8-cell VLS at the bow
12 -24 x contanarised shtil amidship in place of Kh-35
2 x Palma at aft.
4 x Zhuk-AE podded arrays
8-cell VLS at the bow
12 -24 x contanarised shtil amidship in place of Kh-35
2 x Palma at aft.
4 x Zhuk-AE podded arrays
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max steel wrote:Gepard is back after repairs at Nerpa
That's a K335 sub, not a frigate...
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Well this thread hasn't had an update in a long time.
Apparently India is negotiating to buy some Gepards
https://flotprom.ru/2018/%D0%98%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F18/
Seems to be related to recent incident in India with a big shipbuilding crane falling over on top of a frigate under construction https://flotprom.ru/2018/%D0%98%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F19/
Apparently India is negotiating to buy some Gepards
https://flotprom.ru/2018/%D0%98%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F18/Seems to be related to recent incident in India with a big shipbuilding crane falling over on top of a frigate under construction https://flotprom.ru/2018/%D0%98%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F19/
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One of the rare incidents when no welder was involved.
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Model of Gepard class (for export) with UKSK.
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That's a cheap design they should invest in. For 1 billion $ they could have ~10 (in ASW version) of them in order to increase number of ships in service and allow more long range operations. They could escort other ships, patrol sea roads, protect some areas from sub ... secondary jobs. And they can be made faster than Gorshkovs. I would take the simpliest variant with a pantsir and uksk.
I'm disapointed by the radar. It is the same as on missile boats (Molniya class) sold to Vietnam. Kinda small for a frigate but very good for a missile voats armed with pantsir (can act like radar picket for bigger ships).
I'm disapointed by the radar. It is the same as on missile boats (Molniya class) sold to Vietnam. Kinda small for a frigate but very good for a missile voats armed with pantsir (can act like radar picket for bigger ships).
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Gepard 3.9
This is a MUCH MUCH better solution than the 21635 Sarsar project...
In terms of arsenal, this project surpasses the corvettes of project 20385, at least in terms of weapons.
* 2 UKSK launchers (2 X 8 ) for a total of 16 missiles, twice as much as on the project 20385 corvettes..
* 2 launchers for the air defense system 9K96 "Redut" (2 X 8 ) for 16 missiles. Same as on project 20385 corvettes
* 2 "Pantsir-M".. Project 20385 corvettes do not have this system.
* Sonar and two four-barrel torpedo tubes on each side.......
This is a MUCH MUCH better solution than the 21635 Sarsar project...
In terms of arsenal, this project surpasses the corvettes of project 20385, at least in terms of weapons.
* 2 UKSK launchers (2 X 8 ) for a total of 16 missiles, twice as much as on the project 20385 corvettes..
* 2 launchers for the air defense system 9K96 "Redut" (2 X 8 ) for 16 missiles. Same as on project 20385 corvettes
* 2 "Pantsir-M".. Project 20385 corvettes do not have this system.
* Sonar and two four-barrel torpedo tubes on each side.......
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Is it a modernised version with VLS?
Cool, does it also have helipad, hangar for Ka-27 and Paket torpedo system?
Or the version with pantsir and additional VLS does not have the hangar?
Does Russia now produces the engines for it?
Cool, does it also have helipad, hangar for Ka-27 and Paket torpedo system?
Or the version with pantsir and additional VLS does not have the hangar?
Does Russia now produces the engines for it?
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Rodion_Romanovic wrote:Is it a modernised version with VLS?
Cool, does it also have helipad, hangar for Ka-27 and Paket torpedo system?
Or the version with pantsir and additional VLS does not have the hangar?
Does Russia now produces the engines for it?
To be honest, bro, there are no more detailed data, but it looks good..
Look at picture number TWOO and you will see on each side a four-barrel torpedo tube.
There is no information about specifications and engines, but two UKSK launchers can be seen in the picture, one in front of the command bridge and one aft between the Pantsir-M. Launchers for 9K96 are in the middle..
And this free part at the stern of the model does not seem spacious enough for a helicopter landing. There is no hangar..
One thing is certain, and that is that such a ship would have universality; cruise missiles, anti-ship, anti-submarine warfare, close and medium range air defense system + GUN.
And that is EXACTLY what I like.
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From what I understand no more of these were built to fullfill the request by Vietnamese Navy because of no more engines from Ukraine.
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lancelot wrote:From what I understand no more of these were built to fullfill the request by Vietnamese Navy because of no more engines from Ukraine.
Yeah the Vietnamese Navy wanted (and ordered) at least two more of them.
Possibly these new mods are with the new engines from Saturn...
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To Rodion....
One M55R gas turbine has 27500 hp, while two M-70 (project 11661) turbines have a total of 29000 hp or so.
One M55R gas turbine has 27500 hp, while two M-70 (project 11661) turbines have a total of 29000 hp or so.