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    Venezuela Armed Forces

    Post  Viktor on Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:05 pm

    I think no country of its size takes rearmament program so extensivly ...

    Few things I can remember at the moment ...

    Personal equipment

    - AK Factory
    - Two AK munition factory
    - 100 000 AK-103
    - 5000 Dragunov sniper rifles
    - Night optic for AK/Dragunov
    - 1800 Igla-S MANPAD
    - Minimi machine gun

    Air Force

    - 24 Su-30MKV (rumors are Su-35 are done deal)
    - 38 Mi-17
    - 3 Mi-26
    - 10 Mi-35 (rumors are Mi-28 is a done deal)
    - 36 K-8
    - 10-12 Y-8 transport


    Antiaircraft

    - S-300V on order (confirmed)
    - BUK-M1-2
    - Pechora-2M
    - TOR-M1 (considered)

    Ground forces

    - Smerch (most likely on order)
    - 92 T-72B tanks
    - BTR-80/BMP (most likely on order)

    Naval

    - 4 POVZEE
    - Yakhont coastal missile battery
    - Subs are mentioned often but no deal yet

    EW

    - 3 JYL-1 3D radar
    - JY11B radar
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    Re: Venezuela Armed Forces

    Post  GarryB on Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:22 am

    That is a very impressive list.

    Forgive my ignorance but does Venezuela produce anything for export that might be valuable to Russia.

    It is just that I think a two way trade in goods will lead to a more healthy and productive relationship than if they are just a customer of weapons.
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    Post  Viktor on Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:19 pm

    GarryB wrote:That is a very impressive list.

    Forgive my ignorance but does Venezuela produce anything for export that might be valuable to Russia.

    It is just that I think a two way trade in goods will lead to a more healthy and productive relationship than if they are just a customer of weapons.

    Venezuela produces oil and Russian/Chinese companies have taken place of western companies under different contract.
    Thats about it.

    At the moment Russian and Venezuelan govremments are forming joint bank to finance Russian arms sales to Venezuela.

    4Bin are in preparation.
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:33 am

    Well in that case I hope Russias experience of trying to diversify their economy is of benefit to Venezuela too.
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:36 am

    Viktor wrote:I think no country of its size takes rearmament program so extensivly ...

    UAE takes the prize for per capita arms spending by far.
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    Post  TR1 on Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:27 pm

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/150091.html

    Nice pics of Pechora-2M in Venezuela. This modernization has picked up quite a few sales here and there.
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    Re: Venezuela Armed Forces

    Post  Viktor on Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:43 am

    It could be that Venezuela becomes for Russia what Saudi Arabia is for US.

    I think Venezuela surpassed Saudi Arabia by its oil reserves.
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    Post  flamming_python on Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:32 pm

    Viktor wrote:It could be that Venezuela becomes for Russia what Saudi Arabia is for US.

    I think Venezuela surpassed Saudi Arabia by its oil reserves.

    The difference being that at least Venezuela has a logical arms-procurement program that is optimized for efficiency, integration of hardware and so on by focusing on just a few arms suppliers; rather than mixing and matching like a kid in a candy store - which is what the Saudi's are doing.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:21 am

    The Saudis have no real military problems... I mean we saw what happened when Saddam invaded a country near Saudi Arabia in 1990.

    That enormous over reaction wasn't about Kuwaite. Kuwaite isn't even a real democracy even today and it doesn't have that much oil.

    What the fear was that a successful invasion of Kuwaite might be followed by an invasion of Saudi Arabia and that cannot even be considered.

    In such an environment Saudi Arabia doesn't need a military force as the US guarantees its security. This means that Saudi Arabia can use military purchases as political tools to buy influence and power and control.
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    Post  TheArmenian on Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:16 am

    Saudi Arms purchases are just bribes given by the ruler to the West to stay in power. No arms = no throne.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:46 am

    Pretty much right, though the west would not want the current royal family to fall from power as any democratic regime would be a regime of the people and the average saudi doesn't like America much and certainly does not like Israel.

    The US might like democracy in Iraq or Iran as imposed by the US, but it certainly does not want democracy in Saudi Arabia... real democracies are much more expensive to control.
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    Venezuelan SAM ORBAT

    Post  SOC on Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:56 am

    Attempting to piece this all together from various places around the web. Comments and corrections/additions are welcome!

    Here's what I've got so far:

    19 Brigade (Maracaibo)
    -191 Group, Pechora-2M, BARU
    -192 Group, Pechora-2M, Josefa Camejo
    -198 Group, Igla-S, Maracaibo

    29 Brigade (El Sombrero)
    -297 Group
    -X Group, Antey-2500, BAMARI (might be 297 Group)

    39 Brigade (Caracas)
    -391 Group, Pechora-2M, Charallave
    -392 Group, Pechora-2M
    -393 Group, Buk-M2E, Meseta de Mano
    -394 Group, Antey-2500
    -399 Group, RBS-70, Cumana

    49 Brigade (Barcelona)

    59 Brigade (Guayana)
    -599 Group, Igla-S, El Guri

    69 Brigade

    One thing that makes the process tedious is that acronyms are often used for FAV bases. BAMARI, for example, is B.A. Manuel Rios. Also, although integrated under the air defence command structure, 393 Group is operated by either the Navy or Marines. Anyway, ongoing process.
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    Re: Venezuela Armed Forces

    Post  Viktor on Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:33 pm

    Not related to Russia but is to Venezuela

    Venezuela bought 26 Chinese radars

    - 26 new radars stations bought from China
    - 10 command post bought from China
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    Post  TR1 on Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:14 am

    Hopefully they actually work- Chinese radars have had a lot of issue with other Latin American operators.
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    Arms contracts with Venezuela:

    Post  Cyberspec on Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:54 am

    Came across some info on the JY-11B radar

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    Post  mutantsushi on Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:53 am

    http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/154325/navantia-to-repair-venezuelan-opv-in-brazil.html
    Navantia Signs Contract with Brazilian Company for Repair of Venezuelan OPV PC-22 Warao

    Navantia, which originally built the ship, will repair and upgrade the Venezuelan navy’s PC-22 “Warao” offshore patrol vessel in Brazil. (Navantia photo)
    Navantia and the Brazilian company ECOVIX - ENGEVIX have signed a contract for technical consulting and advisory services by Navantia for the assembly and commissioning of the propulsion, automation and power generation systems of PC-22 “Warao," an offshore patrol vessel (OPV) built by Navantia for the navy of Venezuela and delivered in 2011.

    Was there particular problems with these vessels, that they would need an overhaul this soon after delivery?
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    Chinese weapons in Venezuela:

    Post  George1 on Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:59 am

    Chinese armored personnel carriers VN-1 Norinco arrived in Venezuela







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    Post  George1 on Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:42 pm

    S-300VM= 1 in service, with 11 on order
    BUK-M2= 3 missile systems
    S-125 Pechora-2M= 11 mobile missile systems
    Tor M-1= 12 already in service, with 12 to be delivered for a total of 24

    Quite good i guess, in all ranges
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    Post  Viktor on Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:58 pm

    George1 wrote:S-300VM= 1 in service, with 11 on order
    BUK-M2= 3 missile systems
    S-125 Pechora-2M= 11 mobile missile systems
    Tor M-1= 12 already in service, with 12 to be delivered for a total of 24

    Quite good i guess, in all ranges

    Sadly there are no general concensus or info about the exact number of S-300VM on order. Interesting enough we still do not know what country ordered S-300VM that Russia made during

    2014. But still Venezuela air defense is light years where it was several years ago. Still lots needs to be done.

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    Post  rambo54 on Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:46 pm

    SOC wrote:Attempting to piece this all together from various places around the web.  Comments and corrections/additions are welcome!

    Here's what I've got so far:

    19 Brigade (Maracaibo)
    -191 Group, Pechora-2M, BARU
    -192 Group, Pechora-2M, Josefa Camejo
    -198 Group, Igla-S, Maracaibo

    29 Brigade (El Sombrero)
    -297 Group
    -X Group, Antey-2500, BAMARI (might be 297 Group)

    39 Brigade (Caracas)
    -391 Group, Pechora-2M, Charallave
    -392 Group, Pechora-2M
    -393 Group, Buk-M2E, Meseta de Mano
    -394 Group, Antey-2500
    -399 Group, RBS-70, Cumana

    49 Brigade (Barcelona)

    59 Brigade (Guayana)
    -599 Group, Igla-S, El Guri

    69 Brigade

    One thing that makes the process tedious is that acronyms are often used for FAV bases.  BAMARI, for example, is B.A. Manuel Rios.  Also, although integrated under the air defence command structure, 393 Group is operated by either the Navy or Marines.  Anyway, ongoing process.

    On Bing maps you can see some S-300VM equipment at Carrizales / El Sombrero Base Aérea Capitan Manuel Ríos Guarico AB.
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    Re: Venezuela Armed Forces

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:28 am

    http://sputniknews.com/military/20150921/1027280758.html

    Venezuela wants to buy 12 more Su-30's, after 1 crashed:
    http://www.aereo.jor.br/2015/09/18/sukhoi-su-30-cai-na-venezuela/

    The question is, how did this one crash? Seems odd, no?

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    Re: Venezuela Armed Forces

    Post  mutantsushi on Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:52 am

    I believe it was the recent crash while 'chasing' drug smuggler plane.
    I don't think cause of crash was announced.
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    Re: Venezuela Armed Forces

    Post  George1 on Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:50 am

    Chinese VN1 armored vehicles and VN16 armed marines Venezuela



    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1535501.html


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    Re: Venezuela Armed Forces

    Post  Militarov on Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:01 pm

    "The Venezuelan Air Force has ordered 24 CATIC L-15 supersonic trainer aircraft. The Hongdu L-15 Falcon is a Chinese supersonic training and light attack aircraft being developed by Nanchang-based Hongdu Aviation Industry Corporation (HAIG) to meet the Chinese People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) and People’s Liberation Army Naval Air Force (PLANAF) lead-in fighter trainer (LIFT) requirements. The L-15 will serve as last link in pilot training required for Lockheed Martin F-16A / B Fighting Falcon Block 15 and Sukhoi Su-30MK2."



    Source: http://defence-blog.com/news/venezuela-has-ordered-24-l-15-supersonic-trainer-aircraft.html
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    Re: Venezuela Armed Forces

    Post  sepheronx on Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:17 pm

    So they purchase more of a chinese knockoff of the Yak-130? Wonderful.... See that Russia lost out thanks to China.

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