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    Post  eridan on Sun Sep 06, 2015 11:52 pm

    Is there a link to a news report about a recent air force buy of mi8 helicopters? citing number of helos bought and price in rubles paid? Is there are data on just how much does ruaf pay for flyaway mi8 these days?

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    Post  mutantsushi on Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:03 pm

    reposted from another thread...

    So the RU-CHI heavy lift JV in fact looks more like a Mi-46, with ~2/3 MTOW of Mi-26...
    If they really are to use the same engine as re-engined Mi-26,
    it would seem that they will be using 3 engines in the new 26 and 2 of the same kind in this RU-CHI JV...?
    PapaDragon wrote:Advanced Heavy Lifter, future Russian-Chinese heavy-lift helicopter.
    Planned maximum takeoff weight 38.2 tons, top speed 300 km/h, service ceiling 5700 meters, range 630 km.



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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:54 am

    mutantsushi wrote:reposted from another thread...

    So the RU-CHI heavy lift JV in fact looks more like a Mi-46, with ~2/3 MTOW of Mi-26...
    If they really are to use the same engine as re-engined Mi-26,
    it would seem that they will be using 3 engines in the new 26 and 2 of the same kind in this RU-CHI JV...?
    PapaDragon wrote:Advanced Heavy Lifter, future Russian-Chinese heavy-lift helicopter.
    Planned maximum takeoff weight 38.2 tons, top speed  300 km/h, service ceiling 5700 meters, range 630 km.



    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1465326.html

    No doubt it'll likely use Motor Sich engines in the initial prototype/testing stages, however by the time it goes in to production (probably in 5 years) it'll no doubt use domestic engines.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:30 pm

    The fuselage of the first serial production Mi-38 is manufactured in Kazan

    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/67541/




    Who will be customer for this type?

    Will RU military be buying this one?
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    Post  Cyberspec on Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:58 am

    The first Mi-8AMTSh-VA (Arctic version) completed flight tests
    Arrow http://www.russianhelicopters.aero/ru/press/news/na-uuaz-zaversheny-polety/



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    Post  max steel on Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:36 am

    Airbus just announced they are moving the Super Puma line to Romania

    1. because it will be cheaper to make it there
    2. they are making a cheaper no thrills version
    3. they aim to compete with the mi-8/17

    surely there must be some air forces that experience operating both
    1. in operational experiences how did the two compare
    2. in terms of marketability,


    can the super puma compete with the very successful hip?


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    Post  max steel on Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:46 am

    Czech Mi-17 recovered in Spain (Zaragoza) after a crash




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    Post  d_taddei2 on Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:48 am

    max steel wrote:Airbus just announced they are moving the Super Puma line to Romania
    1. because it will be cheaper to make it there
    2. they are making a cheaper no thrills version
    3. they aim to compete with the mi-8/17

    surely there must be some air forces that experience operating both
    1. in operational experiences how did the two compare
    2. in terms of marketability,


    can the super puma compete with the very successful hip?

    a bit of a tough one here as in till you see what the cheaper no frills will be like you can't really compare, but going by current spec's i would imagine the Hip will still have the upper hand due to being able to carry more, probably easier to fly, cheaper to maintain, and more robust and can cope with more hardship, and another good point is the huge amount of variants available for the Hip compared to the super puma, the the cheap no frills version could end up being less versatile, and then there's the politic's behind sales, Russia is far easier to deal with than France.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:27 am

    Well I guess that for counties that are under pressure of " invisible hand of market" clenched info US fist or Russofobia is a mainstream news since 89 Puma will be obvious choice - not based on technical features.

    For longtime Russian customers - due to costs of retraining crews and logistics Puma has no advantage. Now question to countries which can be to some degree independent in choice? are there such Smile
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    Post  George1 on Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:20 pm

    The first Arctic "Terminator" transferred to the Defense Ministry in the framework of the state defense order

    Mi-8AMTSh-VA was created specifically for use in the northern regions of the country at a temperature below minus 40 degrees

    Ulan-Ude, November 25. / TASS /. The first helicopter Mi-arctic conditions 8AMTSh-VA ("Terminator"), created on the Ulan-Ude Aviation Plant, passed the Defense Ministry, reports Trend. TASS with the handover ceremony.

    General Director of "Helicopters of Russia" Alexander Mikheyev said that on the basis of a military helicopter Arctic will be established civilian version.

    "Resulting in the development, production and testing of the Mi-8AMTSh ISLANDS technological advance for the use of the machine in the Far North will be used to create a civilian version of the Arctic helicopter. This version of the helicopter is needed as the subjects of the Russian Federation to create the transport infrastructure in the northern regions, and oil and gas companies for offshore projects, "- said Mikheyev, who was quoted by the press service of the holding.

    As noted in the holding company, is currently interest in this type of helicopter, in addition to the Ministry of Defense, exhibit and other Russian power structures.

    The first Arctic helicopter was designed to work in the northern regions of the country at a temperature below minus 40 degrees. The range of its flight with an optional fuel tanks of more than 1.3 thousand kilometers.

    Mi-8AMTSh VA-equipped engines VK-2500-03 and enhanced transmission. The increased power capacity APU TA-14 provides a self-powered energy-consuming products.

    To improve the effectiveness of piloting and navigation accuracy of the helicopter in conditions maloorientirnoy areas and the arctic polar night allows a digital autopilot and some navigation systems, in particular, redundant satellite, and digital navigation system with built-in generator cards and strapdown inertial system that allows to determine the current position coordinates of the helicopter without satellite signals.

    The helicopter installed surveillance system to monitor the traffic situation in low visibility of the location of other aircraft and search finder to search for people in distress and technology. Mi-8AMTSh ISLANDS adapted for the use of night vision goggles, as well as a special equipment, including heating food and water.

    The contract to supply helicopters for the Arctic Group of Russian Forces was signed with the Ministry of Defense in February 2015 and marks the Ulan-Ude Aviation Plant, along with long-term contract for the supply of helicopters to 2020. The following MI-8AMTSh-VA will be delivered as part of defense contracts since 2016.


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    Post  Militarov on Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:00 pm

    "The United States lifted the sanctions against Russian arms exporter Rosoboronexport’s contracts for servicing the Mil Mi-17 (NATO reporting name: Hip) helicopters in Afghanistan, according to Thomas Countryman, US Assistant Secretary of State for International Security and Nonproliferation. US governmental weekly Federal Register has published Mr. Countryman-signed document to that effect on Wednesday, Nov. 25, 2015. The document notes that the US sanctions slapped on Rosoboronexport on September 2, 2015 have been lifted from the Russian company’s and its subsidiaries’ US-placed contracts "for spare parts, repair, official checkup and maintenance of the Mi-17 helicopters designed for assisting the Afghan security forces or for the global flight on terror and violent extremism." The decision to ease the sanctions on Rosoboronexport in terms of the Afghan Mi-17 maintenance contracts will have been in force for two years and may be extended, if the US secretary of state deems this necessary.

    The United States introduced its sanctions against Rosoboronexport and several other Russian companies on September 2 this year under its domestic Iran, North Korea and Syria Nonproliferation Act. At the time, several other firms were hit by the sanctions too, these being the Instrument Design Bureau (KBP) in Tula, Novosibirsk-based night vision device and image intensifier manufacturer Katod, NPO Mashinostroyeniya in Reutov (Moscow Region) and airframer MiG in Moscow.



    Under an agreement with the US Department of Defense, Russia has been supplying the Afghan National Army and security services with Mi-17V-5 helicopters for the past five years. The primary agreement was signed in 2011, and several supplementary contracts have followed since then. The agreement stipulated for the delivery of 63 Russian-built helicopters worth a total of $1.33 billion to Afghanistan."


    Source: http://www.airrecognition.com/index.php/archive-world-worldwide-news-air-force-aviation-aerospace-air-military-defence-industry/global-news-2015/november/2159-u-s-lifts-sanctions-against-rosoboronexport-for-afghanistan-s-mi-17-helicopters-support.html
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    Post  franco on Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:48 am

    Photo tour of the Ulan Ude plant producing Mi-8AMTSh's;
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1601761.html
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    Post  Book. on Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:00 pm

    Deputy PM: Russia must have its own aircraft industry
    Business & Economy  December 04, 3:54 UTC+3
    Here: http://tass.ru/en/economy/841516

    Advanced Core For Engine Family
    The hot part (engine core) of the PD-14 engine, Rogozin said, can be scaled up and form the basis for the creation of a whole family of engines. "This is PD-10 and PD-12V - the helicopter version of the engine that can replace the Ukrainian engine on the Mi-26 helicopter, as well as on the Russian-Chinese prospective helicopter," the official said. "And also a more powerful engine than the PD 14 - modernized for 15.5 tonnes of thrust. It can be used also for a larger version of our MS-21 aircraft."

    The deputy prime minister said that in fact, a core engine that will, hopefully, have "a very long life’" has been created for the first time and it "will be used in the segment of 9 to 18 tonnes thrust."

    Ukrane DT136 no need

    New PD12V ok paratrooper
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    Post  George1 on Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:52 pm

    "Helicopters of Russia" received the type certificate for the Mi-38

    The certificate confirms that the type design of the helicopter requirements of Russian and foreign aviation regulations. The serial production of the Mi-38 will begin in 2016.

    MOSCOW, December 30 - RIA Novosti. Holding "Helicopters of Russia" received the type certificate for the transport medium-duty multi-purpose helicopter Mi-38 helicopter designed by the name of Mil.

    "The certificate confirms that the type design of the helicopter requirements of Russian and foreign aviation regulations. Since 2016 the car will be launched into production and brought to the Russian market. The first fuselage serial Mi-38 is already assembled at the Kazan helicopter plant", - said the holding.

    As told the head of the holding company "Helicopters of Russia" Alexander Mikheyev, at this point the need of Russian companies, particularly oil and gas sector is 10-15 such machines.

    Flight certification tests of the Mi-38 were two prototypes equipped with domestic engine plant development TV7-117V Klimov. According to Mikheev, "Russian Helicopters" are working on the passenger version of the Mi-38 type certificate which can be received in 2017.

    Holding "Helicopters of Russia" (included in "Rostec") - one of the world's leading helicopter industry, the only developer and manufacturer of helicopters in Russia.

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    Post  George1 on Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:42 am

    Mil Helicopters started working on Mi-38 helicopter military variant

    http://www.ruaviation.com/news/2016/2/5/4945/


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    Post  George1 on Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:42 pm

    Russia to begin serial production of Mi-38 newest hel in 2017 (about 6 hel/s) then 20-24 hel/s per year.

    https://twitter.com/KURYERSAT/status/705766513266069508


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    Post  George1 on Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:40 pm

    Russian Defense Ministry Orders Three More Arctic Helicopters

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160311/1036151956/russia-arctic-helicopters.html#ixzz42dXtJr74


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    Post  George1 on Sat Mar 12, 2016 3:56 pm

    "Helicopters of Russia" (included in Rostec) on the day of acceptance of unified military in the Russian Defense Ministry early reports delieverd 14 military transport helicopters Mi-8 MTV-5-1 and one trainer "Ansat-U"

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    Post  George1 on Wed May 04, 2016 5:25 pm

    Russian Defense Ministry Receives New Batch of Mi-17 Helicopters

    A new batch of Mil Mi-8/17 transport helicopters has been supplied by the Russian Helicopters company under a Defense Ministry contract, it was announced in a corporate press release Wednesday.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — The last batch of the Mil Mi-17 upgraded Mi-8MTV-5-1 model was supplied to the Russian Army in 2015, along with six Ansat-U helicopters.

    "The Russian Helicopters holding has delivered another batch of military transport Mi-8MTV-5-1 helicopters to the Russian Defense Ministry's operating organizations, as well as supplying one Ansat-U [utility helicopter]. The helicopters have withstood all types of tests stipulated by the government contract and the terms of the technical documentation," the company said.

    The Russian Defense Ministry is the largest client for Russian-built helicopters.

    "Producing equipment for state defense orders and its timely supply to the client is a priority for Russian Helicopters," the company stated, adding that the Kazan Helicopter Plant, which produces the Ansat-U, is currently modernizing its production facilities in order to fulfill state orders for its helicopters.

    The Mi-8MTV-5-1 is supplied to Russia’s military and law-enforcement agencies, and is designed to transport up to 4,000 kg of cargo and equipment. The helicopter can also fly search-and-rescue missions and carry out a number of specialized tasks.

    The Ansat-U is a light training helicopter designed for effective military pilot training.

    Russian Helicopters, a subsidiary of Oboronprom (part of Rostec corporation) is a global leader in the field of helicopter manufacture and the only developer and manufacturer of helicopters in Russia.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160504/1039070165/helicopters-mil-defense.html#ixzz47hWlWeKa


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