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    Re: Russian Military uniforms

    Post  GarryB on Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:45 am

    The only problem is that the pixels on the Russian uniform are much too small, and from any distance appear to be one solid color,

    Is that actually a problem?

    I mean up close you can see subtle shades and colours in an individual tree but as you move further back the different shades tend to merge into a common colour... isn't that what distance normally does?

    Through magnifying optics you see the detail and it blends in, and from a distance you can't see the small details of the uniform or the back ground and they all merge into... well... hard to see.

    BTW I found some photos:



    This is called old uniform to the left in normal light.



    This is called old uniform to the left in UV light. (3rd and above gen II sights can see in UV and IR frequencies)



    This is called new uniform to the left in night vision view.


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    Re: Russian Military uniforms

    Post  Mr.Kalishnikov47 on Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:29 am

    Okay, I see both of your points, thank you for the information.

    I think the unknown pattern may actually be a variant of the Russian Palma Spring pattern, which apparently dates back to the mid 40's.



    Here's a different version of the same pattern (Which I might add looks completely awesome).





    Might be my new favorite camouflage pattern.

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    Re: Russian Military uniforms

    Post  GarryB on Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:37 am

    Part of the issue with the Russian and Soviet uniforms is that they really do have 4 distinct seasons, and much of the time just one pattern wont cut it.

    The vast geography means it would be practically impossible to get away with one standard camouflage for all.

    The practical problems of production and distribution mean that soldiers wear what they are given which might not be ideal for one local at that particular time of the year.

    Also uniforms wear out at different rates and when you need new trousers if it came down to a choice of a different pattern and the correct size or the same pattern but several sizes too big or too small then I would go with the wrong pattern. Mechanised infantry will rarely blend into the background and the important thing is to break up the shape rather than look exactly like a tree.

    I actually remember seeing a photo of a Spanish NATO exercise of this big open field with all these small bushes and the commander basically said that before his unit arrived there were no bushes so all the enemy needed to do was shoot at all the bushes because otherwise it was flat and open country... well it made me laugh... Smile


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    Re: Russian Military uniforms

    Post  Mr.Kalishnikov47 on Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:08 pm

    New field uniforms for the Russian army.



















































    I personally think they should have selected a new camouflage while they were at it, but the uniform itself is definitely a nice improvement.






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    Re: Russian Military uniforms

    Post  SWAT Pointman on Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:47 pm

    Not a camo expert, but I guess digital camo is what is considered most effective camo this day and age it seems. I prefer the look of just olive green BDU, but you have to kind of disregard what looks good and go with what's effective instead.

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    Re: Russian Military uniforms

    Post  GarryB on Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:26 pm

    ...go with what's effective instead.

    That is key.


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    Re: Russian Military uniforms

    Post  Zivo on Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:48 am




    Poor guys, they're being put on display. Signs and all Laughing

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    Re: Russian Military uniforms

    Post  ricky123 on Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:55 am

    i would like to see india army get such stuff .poor souls nobody cares about them ..the gov spends billions on modern stuff but the basic things for the infantry is neglected ..

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    Re: Russian Military uniforms

    Post  Shadåw on Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:19 pm

    Found this is Ria novsti`s photo-gallery, its about the new uniforms as well including some details.


    Russia Unveils New Army Field Uniform

    Starting with early 2013, 70,000 new uniform sets will be issued to soldiers, hopefully these unfiforms will not kill the soldiers in the cold like the "fashion unifoms" :<

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    Re: Russian Military uniforms

    Post  flamming_python on Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:11 pm

    Uniforms look good. And I like the modularity. Hopefully the production quality doesn't let everything down.

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    Russian Military Uniform

    Post  flamming_python on Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:52 pm

    For the new uniform, I wonder what 'forma no. 3' will look like?

    'forma no. 3' is what you wear normally indoors or outdoors in the summer; i.e. trousers, tunic, belt, head-ware.
    Whereas 'forma no. 5' for instance is full winter-clothing, with the coat on.

    So basically, what will the normal indoor dress wear of the uniform look like? I guess there is one picture there that corresponds.

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    Post  TheArmenian on Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:22 pm

    This video prompted me to start this thread about Russian military boots.



    Some time ago, I compiled a list of Russian companies that produce military style boots. Most of them produce both for the military as well as for civilians.
    I would like to share my list with you all.
    My list is probably not complete. If you know of other companies, please add them.
    Comments, discussions and opinions are welcome.

    1. FARADEI: The most important one. The are featured in the above video. They make up to 3 million pairs per year.
    www.faradei.ru

    2. ALPINIST: www.alpine1988.ru

    3. FABRIKA OBUVI: www.obuv22.narod.ru

    4. SPETSOBUV: www.c-obuv.ru

    5. IVSPETSOBUV: www.spec37.ru and www.specobuv37.ru

    6. IVANOVOSPESOBUV: http://footwear37.ru/

    7. OBUVSPETS: www.obuvspec.ru

    8. NEBEL: http://nevel-obuv.narod.ru/

    9. DONOBUV: http://www.donobuv.ru/

    10. KRASNAYA ZVEZDA: http://zvezda-kimry.ru/

    11. MSTERSKAYA: http://www.msteraobuv.ru/

    12. KOSTROMSKAYA: http://www.kosfo.ru/

    13. BALTSTEP: http://baltstep.ru/

    14. ARSENAL-ALLIANCE: http://www.mazzali.ru/

    15. AMALGAMA: http://amalgama1992.ru/index.html

    16: BIZON: http://www.fabrikabizon.ru/

    17: ELITE: http://www.eso.spb.ru/

    18: PROFESSIONAL: http://www.proshoes.ru/

    I must also add the following two companies from Belarus.

    1. GARSING: http://www.garsing.ru/

    2. BUTEX: http://www.byteks.ru/

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    Re: Russian Military uniforms

    Post  Firebird on Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:45 pm

    Interesting. I will take a look. Anyone know good sources of Russian arctic camo jackets?

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    Russian Uniform Makers

    Post  TheArmenian on Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:26 pm

    I compiled a list of Russian manufacturers for Army/Police/Paramilitary/Hunting/Fishing/Outdoor equipment/clothes makers.
    The list below is by no means complete. Please add entries that you know.
    Enjoy shopping for your winter jacket, camouflage clothes, backpack etc.

    Outdoor clothes/backpacks/tents and other equipment
    1. www.novatour.ru
    2. www.bask.ru
    3. www.redfox.ru
    4. www.splav.ru
    5. www.equip.ru
    6. www.taegnik.com
    7. http://pk-99.ru/
    8. http://outdoor.spb.ru/
    9. http://ekipirovka.ru/
    10. http://www.sivera.ru/
    11. http://tramp-sport.ru/
    12. http://www.uviswear.ru/
    13. http://www.kronawear.ru/
    14. http://www.stayer.su/
    15. http://www.belykamen-prom.ru/
    16. http://www.normal.ru/
    17. http://www.five-stars.ru/
    18. http://areal-outdoor.ru/
    19. http://alom-dar.ru/
    20. http://www.sapsan5.ru/index.html
    21. http://www.superzont.ru/
    22. http://www.forest-kzn.ru/
    23. http://chayka.ruprom.net/product_list
    24. http://pri-val.ru/
     
    Military/Police/ MVD/FSB/Security/Paramilitary style clothes/equipment
    1. http://pokrov.ru/
    2. http://www.okrug.ru/
    3. http://formeks.ru/
    4. http://formeks.ru/
    5. http://magellanufa.ru/
    6. http://ana.spb.ru/
    7. http://www.modox.ru/
    8. http://plm-ltd.ru/
    9. http://sshf.narod.ru/about.htm
    10. http://www.bvr-ivanovo.ru/
    11. http://www.tetratex.ru/
    12. http://kedr-tk.ru/
    13. http://www.daric.ru/
    14. http://deltan.ru/index.html
    15. http://kmf.gk43.ru/#work
    16. http://www.npo-sm.ru/index.php
    17. http://www.cosmo-tex.ru/
    18. http://sso-mil.ru/
    19. http://www.sp-snab.ru/about/
    20. http://rab-odejda.ru/
    21. http://www.rfcorsa.ru/?page=214
    22. http://ballard.ru/
    23. http://t-moda.ru/OAO-Proizvodstv28.php
    24. http://zao-aleksandr.ru/index.html
    25. http://www.mpozr.ru/
    26. http://www.formamvd.ru/component/vmcchk,1/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,28/
    27. http://www.stich.su/
    28. http://tactic-9.ru/

    Hunting/Fishing equipment & clothes makers
    1. http://www.holster-ltd.ru/
    2. http://www.hsn.ru/
    3. http://firmavostok.ru/
    4. http://www.rox.ru/
    5. http://www.taget-hunt.ru/
    6. http://www.tundraspb.ru/
    7. http://www.passat-ohota.ru/
    8. http://rossoriginal.ru/
    9. http://www.roshunter.su/
    10. http://www.roshunter.su/
    11. http://www.roshunter.ru/
    12. http://www.bhf-plus.ru/
    13. http://www.oley.ru/
    14. http://www.babek.su/
    15. http://www.nitex.ru/
    16. http://www.odegdakmf.ru/
    17. http://www.ddd-ohota.ru/
    18. http://www.festspb.ru/
    19. http://www.nova-tex.ru/
    20. http://www.rang21.ru/
    21. http://krastekstil.ru/
    22. http://vk.com/public39245283
    23. http://omega-ohota.ru/
    24. http://www.erten.ru/
    25. http://www.pfvektor.com/
    26. http://www.yukon99.ru/
    27. http://ibobrov.com/

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    Re: Russian Military uniforms

    Post  TheArmenian on Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:00 pm

    New video about FRADEI boots:


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    Re: Russian Military uniforms

    Post  TR1 on Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:10 pm

    http://i-korotchenko.livejournal.com/770504.html

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    Re: Russian Military uniforms

    Post  Regular on Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:42 pm

    New uniforms every other month. Doesn't look better than 100 others showed before.

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    Re: Russian Military uniforms

    Post  GarryB on Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:18 am

    The real new uniform is coming next year... ratnik...


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    Re: Russian Military uniforms

    Post  NationalRus on Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:27 pm

    since nearly 8 years they cant get a fucking uniform right and properly and unified cloth our troops, the level of incompetence is staggering

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    Re: Russian Military uniforms

    Post  GarryB on Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:39 am

    Largest country on the planet...half a dozen time zones... tundra to desert and everything in between and they haven't got one uniform that will work everywhere for all four seasons... is this a new problem?

    Personally I don't think getting the uniforms is that important... getting Ratnik working and into service will solve the problem anyway.

    They need to get them right before they make them for everyone... some comments have suggested current options are not that good so why rush it into service?


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    Re: Russian Military uniforms

    Post  NationalRus on Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:58 am

    GarryB wrote:Largest country on the planet...half a dozen time zones... tundra to desert and everything in between and they haven't got one uniform that will work everywhere for all four seasons... is this a new problem?

    Personally I don't think getting the uniforms is that important... getting Ratnik working and into service will solve the problem anyway.

    They need to get them right before they make them for everyone... some comments have suggested current options are not that good so why rush it into service?
    yeah fuck the troops bro! highfive! just canon fodder, some expensive hardwere is more important then actaully cheap but proper clothing for the serviceman, i remember the good old times when things were.. you know straightforward! you got a a pair of sneakers, a bend machinegun, some ammo, urban cammo cloths, no balstic vest and send of to fight in the woodland! thats smart, now your thinking! but hey we got 20.000 tanks somewere... Very Happy 

    now sarcasm aside to be serious, if you cant even proparly equip your most basic warriors, your ground troops then you are probably over your head in everything else you do... or you just dont give a fuck about your men! both options are quite bad

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    Re: Russian Military uniforms

    Post  GarryB on Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:22 am

    yeah fuck the troops bro! highfive! just canon fodder,
    Sorry... what?

    Show me a photo of Russian troops running around naked or in civilian clothes.

    now sarcasm aside to be serious, if you cant even proparly equip your most basic warriors, your ground troops then you are probably over your head in everything else you do... or you just dont give a fuck about your men! both options are quite bad
    The vast majority of photos I have seen of the Russian Army show a much better situation now in regard to uniforms and flak vests than just 10 years ago... there are other things that need replacing first like APCs and Tanks that explode when penetrated when they have extra ammo stored in the crew compartment... I would suggest development of infantry kit will be sorted with Ratnik, where they are treating individual soldier kit as a system rather than piecemeal knee jerk reaction solutions.


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    Re: Russian Military uniforms

    Post  NationalRus on Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:27 pm

    how me a photo of Russian troops running around naked or in civilian clothes. wrote:
    they fought even the georgian war in partly civilian cloths, and partly without proper equipment even some pics without balistic vest on the frontline, and im still talking about the troops not some hardwere

    The vast majority of photos I have seen of the Russian Army show a much better situation now in regard to uniforms and flak vests than just 10 years ago wrote:
    well no shit, after over 2 dacades of not giving a fuck about our canon fodder we managed to somewhat proparly equip them!



    the most cheapest thing to do, gets done again as one of the last things, and how long day had to fight and serve without proper or to old balistic vests, wasting year after year "devoloping" a home built one while buying ones out of cardboard underway, to proud and stupid to admit we havent one and need to import a massive batch of them, becouse the lives of out troops are to important to wait any more time, but nono! fuck them! lets see in a couple of years what we have

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    Post  GarryB on Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:29 am

    they fought even the georgian war in partly civilian cloths, and partly without proper equipment even some pics without balistic vest on the frontline, and im still talking about the troops not some hardwere
    The Georgian conflict was a backwater force put together in a few hours and then thrown into a conflict against a NATO trained enemy that already knew Soviet tactics and training and equipment etc.

    If Tom Clancy had written it it would have been a massacre. Rolling Eyes 

    well no shit, after over 2 dacades of not giving a fuck about our canon fodder we managed to somewhat proparly equip them!
    Yeah... right... the reason the Russian military has not had any money to spend is because it is all cannon fodder... it has nothing to do with there not being any money to spend on them. I am sure if they were all wearing Gucci designed uniforms the world would have supported them and there would have been far fewer casualties... NOT.

    becouse the lives of out troops are to important to wait any more time, but nono! fuck them! lets see in a couple of years what we have
    And what sort of quality foreign flak jackets will you buy? Why not buy them M16s too while you are at it, or just keep all the ones the Georgians had in stock and were captured...

    You are crying about the troops not wearing 21st C uniforms... Putin has chosen not to send Russian troops into CIS countries having problems and asking for Russian help... not getting involved in stupid conflicts is rather more valuable than new uniforms IMHO.

    they fought even the georgian war in partly civilian cloths, and partly without proper equipment even some pics without balistic vest on the frontline, and im still talking about the troops not some hardwere
    The only soldiers that were not in uniform were the South Ossetian troops.


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    Post  NationalRus on Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:22 pm

    The Georgian conflict was a backwater force put together in a few hours and then thrown into a conflict against a NATO trained enemy that already knew Soviet tactics and training and equipment etc. wrote:
    the ossetians were partly batter equiped then the regular 58 army, marching in with t-shirts and sneakers, forgetting or not having balistic jackets, and they were alerted and equiped befor they were send in, means they got shit equipment, they just didnt have them, nobody was throwing machineguns and ammo to them while they were passing the roki tunnel

    Yeah... right... the reason the Russian military has not had any money to spend is because it is all cannon fodder... it has nothing to do with there not being any money to spend on them. I am sure if they were all wearing Gucci designed uniforms the world would have supported them and there would have been far fewer casualties... NOT. wrote:
    the russian military had money for that even 1999, even the fucing US army only spend 129$ a troop to completly cloth him from foot to head, and if they would have balistic vest indeed we would have fewer casualties, if they would have the proper uniform and didnt had to fght with urban cammo in the woodlands indeed we would have fewer casualties, the other part is about RESPECT and DIGNITY, that he dosnt get some old cloths thrown together for him out of the stock, thats the most basic thing, its step 1!

    And what sort of quality foreign flak jackets will you buy? wrote:
    battle proven ons, a million Interceptor's and not old soviet shit from the 80's worn by 19 diffrent soldiers over the past 2 dacades, which weighs to much an is uncomfortable and you will get that one to only if your lucky

    [quote="Why not buy them M16s too while you are at it, ][/quote]
    thankfully we have enough assault rifles, one of the few still good things we have in enough quantity, other things like sniper rifles and handguns we should have bought LONG LONG LONG time ago and not let our soliders use shit not even designed for the job like the SVD, no real special forces were using them anyway they got ther sako trg's but poor trooper "snipers" even in combat zones got shit like always

    The only soldiers that were not in uniform were the South Ossetian troops. wrote:
    some ossetian forces were even better equiped then from te russian pictures i saw, ossetian civil volunteers were in civilian cloths only, but they were civilians in the first place

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