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    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  Austin on Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:29 pm

    Recently Russian SRF chief said it would take 5-7 NMD to take out a single warhead Topol-M.

    Now RS-24 carries 3 Manouvering Warhead and is more powerful than Topol-M accroding to SRF
    http://pda.itar-tass.com/en/c154/174356.html

    “The combat capability of silo-based and mobile Topol-M ICBMs is several times higher than that of Topol missiles. They can pierce any of the existing and future missile defence systems. RS-24 missiles have even better performance,” Karakayev said.

    An RS-24 would need 15-21 NMD systems to take out , an exchange ratio not feasible assuming even if they achieve 100 % intercept which is unlikely.

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    Post  Arrow on Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:08 pm

    Now RS-24 carries 3 Manouvering Warhead a

    RS-24 carries MIRV warhead no Manouvering Warhead

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    Post  Austin on Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:22 pm

    Arrow wrote:
    Now RS-24 carries 3 Manouvering Warhead a



    RS-24 carries MIRV warhead no Manouvering Warhead

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-real-dangers-of-war-new-russian-strategic-missiles-can-penetrate-u-s-missile-shield/28234


    “The capabilities of such combat means were demonstrated to U.S. technical control means during the trials of the Yars ground-based mobile missile system and the Bulava sea-based missile system. It also concerns hypersonic warheads capable of performing altitude and trajectory maneuvers,” he told journalists.

    “The new missiles have characteristics that allow them to stay invulnerable at all sections of their flight,” Karakayev said.
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    Post  Viktor on Tue Jun 18, 2013 5:36 pm

    Powerful thing to do. US will bleed to death while pouring money in endless pit called ABM. 

    Russia to Adopt New ICBM Targeting System by 2020

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    Post  Austin on Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:56 am

    For those who are not too familiar with what RS-24 Manouvering Warhead would be like , Its an Hypersonic Boost Glide Vehical that can travel at Mach 16-18 and can manouver in trajectory and altitude.

    In simple terms its just a Glider that skims through the atmosphere at high speed and manouvering , the closest example is US HTV-2 which is a Hypersonic Glider

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypersonic_Technology_Vehicle_2

    The challenge is to maintain structural integrity while it glides at hypersonic speed and manouvers pulling many times the G that can break the structural integrity of the object ......the real breakthrough has to be in materials for building such hypersonic gliders.

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    Pentagon Planning Precision Strike to Destroy 80 % of Russia Nuclear Potential

    Post  Austin on Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:58 pm

    Pentagon preparing strike with 4000 precision weapon that can disable 80 % of Russia's Nuclear Potential according to Rogozin

    Dmitry Rogozin: The main guarantee of security of the Russian Federation is a strong strategic nuclear deterrence and arms of a new generation of autonomous


    Rogozin said that that "little blood" paralyze a country like Russia, enough for a few hours, apply about 4 thousand strikes with precision weapons. During this time, you can destroy the nuclear capabilities of the country with minimal losses to the public. Resist such a threat, he said, is possible only with the help of an autonomous self new generation of weapons.

    "What can we oppose this enemy? Main security guarantee Russia a strong strategic nuclear deterrence," - said Deputy Prime Minister. However, he doubted that this is only enough to reflect current threats.

    "The American strategists first time in the last 50 years, a vision of how to defeat other nuclear" little blood ", while avoiding unacceptable damage for itself in responding to the country that was attacked - said Rogozin. - At the end of last year The Pentagon held a computer game, the results of which showed a blow to the largest and most highly developed country with the use of 3.5-4 thousand units of high-precision weapons in a few hours - and nearly destroyed the infrastructure, the state will lose the opportunity to resist. "

    According to the deputy head of the cabinet of ministers, if such a blow will be inflicted on Russia, the main targets will be the objects of nuclear deterrence. He led the expert estimated that, in the event of such an attack could be destroyed from 80 to 90 percent of Russia's nuclear potential. At that civilian casualties would be minimal. Remaining the same weapons will not be enough to retaliate against the aggressor and the leadership of the country would not do it.

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    Post  Austin on Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:46 pm

    Russia on some technology lags behind Western countries for decades, said Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin


    "Today, the gap in a number of critical core technologies from leading countries of the West is in some areas up to tens of years", - said Dmitry Rogozin at the scientific conference in Moscow on Friday.

    According to him in the near future to catch up with and overtake the others, especially high-tech Western powers Russia is unlikely to work in all directions.

    "For more than ten years in the United States worked out the concept of Prompt Global Strike. That's its role is an important component of U.S. military strategy. The concept provides a striking non-nuclear weapons at any point on the planet in one hour, "- said Dmitry Rogozin.

    According to him, it is obvious that if such a blow will be inflicted on Russia, the main objectives of the strategic missile forces will become a nuclear deterrent.
    "In essence, the U.S. expert estimates, as a result of such an attack could be destroyed from 80 to 90 percent of our nuclear potential," - said Dmitry Rogozin.

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    Post  Austin on Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:42 pm

    The Strategic Rocket Forces, in cooperation with the industry upgrade command centers

    MOSCOW, July 4. / ITAR-TASS /. The Strategic Rocket Forces / SMF / in cooperation with the industry plan to implement the links integrated automated command and control system / IASBU / fifth generation. This was reported by Itar-Tass spokesman for the Strategic Missile Forces, Colonel Igor Yegorov.

    "Introduced IASBU is based on a digital signal transmission system of combat. This will allow for rapid retargeting of missiles, as well as provide a solution to problems of information provision and management of daily operations of the Strategic Missile Forces," - he said. Collection of reports provided by wire, radio and satellite communications, which have the necessary durability and noise immunity. Also, is bringing the orders directly to the command and control of launchers, bypassing the intermediate links, including in nuclear effects and jamming.

    "In every complex system provided triple redundancy and data communications, and troubleshooting of hardware is localized to within a model element to be replaced," - said Yegorov.

    He explained that the improvement of the management of the Strategic Missile Forces due, in particular, the need to control nuclear missiles of the new generation. Promising automated complexes are compact, low energopotreblyaemostyu, secure data transmission, resistance to external influences and reliability of operation.

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    Post  Austin on Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:01 pm

    A very good interview and informative debate on Solid Versus Liquid fuel from NPO Mash

    Also gives you an idea what the new warhead of Avangrad is like

    Debate On Solid Vs Liquid Propelled Missiles: Russia
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    Post  coolieno99 on Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:54 am

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    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  Austin on Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:03 am

    Esin: doubt is there, but we look forward to the implementation of development plans, the Strategic Missile Forces

    http://vpk.name/news/106043_esin_somneniya_est_no_myi_nadeemsya_na_realizaciyu_planov_razvitiya_rvsn.html


    What is the advantage of South Pole launch they are talking about ?
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:49 am

    The earth is round. Draw a line between two points and that line can either be a line curved around the earth the shortest distance between the two points or you can continue that line completely around the world between the two points. One is shorter than the other but once the warheads are in orbit then range is no longer an issue.

    In other words instead of firing missiles over the north pole from Russia to the US, you can fire them south on the opposite trajectory over the south pole and up over south and central america to attack north america from the south... where no long range radar cover...

    A bit like the FOB system... or fractional orbital bombardment system... put a bomb in orbit... it will go around every 90 minutes... when it approaches the target area fire a rocket to decellerate the weapon out of orbit to fall on the target.

    For the enemy that bomb might have been up for years or days and disguised as a "failed" satellite. the only warning they will likely get is when it reenters so no time to do anything at all to stop it...

    The first weapon might be a 20MT bomb to detonate in the upper atmosphere over canada to blind all the radar and block all radio communcation over the northern american land mass for an hour or two to hide a full nuclear strike...


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    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  Werewolf on Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:59 am

    GarryB wrote:
    In other words instead of firing missiles over the north pole from Russia to the US, you can fire them south on the opposite trajectory over the south pole and up over south and central america to attack north america from the south... where no long range radar cover...

    it will go around every 90 minutes... when it approaches the target area fire a rocket to decellerate the weapon out of orbit to fall on the target.

    For the enemy that bomb might have been up for years or days and disguised as a "failed" satellite. the only warning they will likely get is when it reenters so no time to do anything at all to stop it...

    The first weapon might be a 20MT bomb to detonate in the upper atmosphere over canada to blind all the radar and block all radio communcation over the northern american land mass for an hour or two to hide a full nuclear strike...

    The little problem is space based nuclear weapons are banned and space launch is monitored to a certain degree of the payload mass, not that this couldn't be still done but makes it much harder to deploy nuclear weapons in space.

    But this method is the only promising method to stay on the side of not nuked but polluded "winners" rather than die immidiatley vaporized.

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    Post  Austin on Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:33 am

    Thanks Garry , So the idea is to try the long route to reach America.......Most likely to avoid any dense missile defence , the conventional path over Europe has to cross many ABM sites.
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:03 am

    The little problem is space based nuclear weapons are banned

    Most ICBMs enter space on their way to the target area... and the ban on nuclear weapons in space is just another agreement Russia can withdraw from like the US withdrew from the ABM treaty.

    Most likely to avoid any dense missile defence , the conventional path over Europe has to cross many ABM sites.

    Exactly.

    Some large satellites weigh 12 tons or more and contain lots of fuel... would not be that hard to put a 1 ton 25MT warhead inside a shell with a rocket to decelerate the weapon from orbit and fill the rest of the body with bits to make it look like something else and pretend it failed in orbit when in fact its purpose is to hide for a decade and then slowly adjust orbit and eventually deorbit over the US with an EMP effect to wipe out most of North America leaving it totally blind to the real attack that will immediately follow.


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    Post  collegeboy16 on Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:26 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    Some large satellites weigh 12 tons or more and contain lots of fuel... would not be that hard to put a 1 ton 25MT warhead inside a shell with a rocket to decelerate the weapon from orbit and fill the rest of the body with bits to make it look like something else and pretend it failed in orbit when in fact its purpose is to hide for a decade and then slowly adjust orbit  and eventually deorbit over the US with an EMP effect to wipe out most of North America leaving it totally blind to the real attack that will immediately follow.
    And the scary part is that all it takes really is one massive EMP to knock modern societies to the medieval age.
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    I think if the FOAB

    Post  Werewolf on Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:47 pm

    I think if the FOAB wouldn't weight 9-11 tones it would have been great as a warhead on iskanders with 44 kT and wouldn't even vialote any treaties, could be a great asset for ballistic missile purpose.
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    Post  collegeboy16 on Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:03 am

    FOAB is overkill for anything that is not a mil. base or a small village  Sad . Besides focus now is on precision strikes- take out the mobile HQ/radio/ ammo/fuel/supply dump with a 500 pound bomb or a cruise missile, and you significantly degrade the fighting capability of an enemy.
    Tho FOAB is perfect for punitive strikes- wiping out entire swaths of opium/coca fields and training camps.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:57 am

    Werewolf wrote:I think if the FOAB wouldn't weight 9-11 tones it would have been great as a warhead on iskanders with 44 kT and wouldn't even vialote any treaties, could be a great asset for ballistic missile purpose.

    Maybe if they made a scaled up version of Iskander-M but with Topol/Yars-24's TEL and launching tube, and as you said could be very interesting in the short/theater range ballistic missile role and wouldn't be subject to the INF treaty! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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    Post  Viktor on Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:57 pm

    Finally - excellent article about "PERIMETER" - highly recommended to all


    Ultimate deterrent: How the Russian ‘Perimeter’ system works


    The biggest factor deterring World War 3 is Russia's system that would send a retaliatory nuclear strike even if the command and communication lines of its Strategic Missile Forces were totally destroyed. It is called ‘Perimeter,’ and in the U.S. it has been nicknamed ‘Dead Hand’.

    The main command and control of the strategic missiles is called Kazbek. It is famous for its nuclear briefcase codenamed Cheget. Perimeter is an alternative command system of Russia's nuclear forces. It was designed to automatically control a massive nuclear attack.
    The development of a system of guaranteed retaliation began in the midst of the Cold War when it became clear that electronic warfare systems, which were being constantly improved, would soon be able to block the regular channels controlling the strategic nuclear forces. A backup method of communication was needed that would guarantee the commands would make it to the launchers.

    It was then that the idea was conceived to use a missile equipped with a powerful radio transmitter as a communication link. While flying over the Soviet Union, the missile would send the launch command not only to command centres of the strategic missile force, but also directly to the launchers. On August 30, 1974, USSR secret decree № 695-227 ordered Dnepropetrovsk's Yuzhnoe Design Bureau, an intercontinental ballistic missile manufacturer, to create this system.

    The UR-100UTTKh (NATO designation Spanker) was used as the basis for the system. Flight testing began in 1979, and the first successful launch with the transmitter was on December 26. Tests confirmed all system components of Perimeter could successfully interact, and that the warhead of the command missile would stick to the desired trajectory.
    In November 1984, the command missile was launched from Polotsk and gave a command to the silo launch facility of an RS-20 ICBM (SS-18 Satan) at Baikonur. The Satan was launched, and after each stage was tested, it was confirmed the warhead landed on the correct quadrant at the Kura test range on Kamchatka peninsula. In January 1985, Perimeter was commissioned. Since then the system has been updated several times, now modern ICBM missiles are used as the command missile.
    Four ‘if's’

    The system is made up of command ballistic missiles. Instead of flying towards the enemy, they fly over Russia, and instead of thermonuclear warheads, they carry transmitters that can send a command to launch all available combat missiles in silos, aircraft, submarines and mobile ground units. The system is fully automated, the human factor is excluded or minimized in it.
    The decision to launch command missiles is made by an autonomous control and command system -- a complex artificial intelligence system. It receives and analyzes a wide variety of information about seismic activity and radiation, atmospheric pressure, and the intensity of chatter on military radio frequencies. It monitors telemetry from the observation posts of the strategic missile force and data from early warning systems (EWS).

    If it detects, for example, multiple point sources of powerful ionizing and electromagnetic radiation, it compares them with data on seismic disturbances in the same locations, and makes a decision whether or not there was a massive nuclear strike. In this case, Perimeter would initiate a retaliation strike bypassing even Kazbek.

    Another scenario is if the country's leadership receives information from the EWS that other countries have launched missiles, it would activate Perimeter. If the shutdown command does not come within a certain amount of time, the system will launch missiles. This eliminates the human factor and ensures there would be a retaliatory strike even if the command and launch teams were completely destroyed.

    In peacetime, Perimeter is dormant but continues, however, to analyze incoming information. When it is put on high alert or when it receives a warning signal from the EWS, strategic forces, or other systems, a monitoring network of sensors is launched to detect signs of nuclear explosions.

    Russian leaders have repeatedly assured foreign governments that there is no risk of an accidental or unauthorized missile launch. Before launching, Perimeter checks for four conditions. First, whether there was a nuclear attack. Then it checks the communication link with the General Staff. If there is still a link, the system shuts down. If the General Staff does not respond, Perimeter sends a request to Kazbek. If there is no response there either, the artificial intelligence gives any person in the command bunker the right to make the decision. And only then it starts to act.


    Ultimate deterrent: How the Russian ‘Perimeter’ system works

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    Post  macedonian on Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:30 pm

    Viktor wrote:Finally - excellent article about "PERIMETER" - highly recommended to all

    A good read.
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    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  Sujoy on Wed May 21, 2014 9:52 am

    Topol E launch successful .

    http://russianforces.org/blog/2014/05/topol-e_launched_from_kapustin.shtml

    Interesting part is a new warhead has been tested .


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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed May 21, 2014 8:02 pm

    Sujoy wrote:Topol E launch successful .

    http://thedailynewnation.com/news/12998/no-major-change-in-foreign-policy-modis-aide.html

    Interesting part is a new warhead has been tested .

    I think you have the wrong link. Here's a link to the Topol-E launch:

    Strategic Rocket Forces conducted a successful launch ICBMs landfill "Kapustin Yar"



    The aim was to test a promising start warheads of intercontinental ballistic missiles

    MOSCOW, May 20 - RIA Novosti. RVSN intercontinental ballistic missile launched from Kapustin Yar in Astrakhan region, the press service of the management and to the Ministry of Defence.
    Test launch of an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) RS-12M "Topol" was held on 20 May at 21.08 Moscow time.
    "The aim was to test a promising start warheads of intercontinental ballistic missiles. Training warhead missiles struck with a given accuracy conditional on goal range" Sary-Shagan "(Republic of Kazakhstan)," - said in a statement.
    As highlighted in the report, to test elements of the combat equipment of ballistic missiles Kapustin Yar is unique. Only the test routes and measuring complex polygon allow testing of future combat equipment in the whole range of possible conditions for its delivery to the objectives in the interests of the Strategic Missile Forces and the Navy.


    Full text: http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20140520/1008614602.html#ixzz32NFuNxnw


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    Topol-E launched from Kapustin Yar

    On May 20, 2014 the Strategic Rocket Forces carried out a successful launch of a Topol/SS-25 missile that was used to test "new combat payload for future ICBMs." The missile was launched at 21:08 MSK (17:08 UTC) from the Kapustin Yar test site toward the Sary Shagan test site in Kazakhstan.

    The Kapustin Yar-Sary Shagan Topol launches has been conducted quite frequently recently. The most recent launch of this type took place in March 2014. Today's launch is most likely one of the two launches that, according to Kazakhstan, Russia was planning to conduct in March. Kazakhstan's ministry of defense identified the missiles used in these launches as Topol-E (Тополь-Э).

    UPDATE: The missile left a nice trail in the sky. Also, the video of the launch shows the large warhead section characteristic for Topol-E launches from Kapustin Yar.

    http://russianforces.org/blog/2014/05/topol-e_launched_from_kapustin.shtml



    A strange contrail demonstrating the new warhead's hypersonic ABM-busting maneuverability:

    Southerners saw heaven "track from UFO"

    Hundreds of Astrakhan and its environs witnessed an unusual but beautiful phenomenon. In the night sky appeared white glow with streaks and spiral winding trail, which looked like the aurora borealis, or the trace of the UFO. Many citizens had time to remove what he saw on the video camera, and smartphones and tablet computers.

    A similar pattern was also observed and residents of Volgograd.

    However, it soon became clear that the heavenly trail left intercontinental ballistic missile RS-12M "Topol", which was launched from the landfill "Kapustin Yar" in Astrakhan region.

    - The rocket was launched combat crew Strategic Missile Forces. The aim is to test a promising start warheads ICBMs. Training warhead missiles struck with a given accuracy conditional on goal range "Sary-Shagan" in Kazakhstan, - said in a statement Defense Ministry press service.

    Recall that this is not the first start lately. In March, the Strategic Missile Forces launched ICBM RS-12M "Topol". Military mainly tested the behavior of the air and the accuracy with which the target lies on the ground of his new simulator. The medium itself in such launches also holds exam. His prolong the service life constantly, now it reaches a quarter century. When a resource missiles close to completion, or it is removed from combat duty, or take from the warehouses and sent to such tests.

    http://www.rg.ru/2014/05/21/reg-ufo/sled-anons.html









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    Post  Sujoy on Thu May 22, 2014 9:37 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:I think you have the wrong link. Here's a link to the Topol-E launch:

    My bad . Thanks for pointing that out . I have edited it .
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    Post  Viktor on Thu May 22, 2014 1:24 pm

    Difference in warhead - it seems that Topol-E is modernized version of the old Topol with something mean


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