Military Forum for Russian and Global Defence Issues


    Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Share
    avatar
    Werewolf

    Posts : 5357
    Points : 5588
    Join date : 2012-10-24

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  Werewolf on Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:00 pm

    kvs wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:How do they propose to do this?

    No information.  Reduce the boost phase time.   The faster the boost phase the closer the ABM missiles have to be.   So NATO will
    have to deploy its ABM "shield" inside Russia itself.

    I wonder if they will have boosters on ICBMs.   Right now all of them are stacked stages.   Parallelizing the fuel burn during the boost
    phase achieves the time reduction.   They won't achieve the shell in gun efficiency of total burn (of powder) in a fraction of a second,
    but they can get the desired result.   Russia's large territory helps.   An interesting historical feature of Russia, its land mass was always
    a pain for invaders.

    You should know it and that was discussed before. The US ABM shields in eastern europe are not there to deal with ICBM's. That is something that is not even in their magnitude to achieve not to mention that majority of ICBM's are flying over north pole and only Canada is a country that would be in the trajectory to intercept them, but they do not have such a technology for such velocities and altitudes.

    The ABM shields in europe of the US are there to deal with russian tactical nukes, IRBM and air/navy launched tactical nukes, that is why US has deployed its tactical nukes in several european countries such as Germany, Turkey, Netherland, Italy and Belgia, not to mention the already existing tactical nukes of France and UK. They know and that is beyond doubt that russia will not and never use ICBM's or any strategic WMD's to annihilate anyone due M.A.D. and will be hand bound to retaliate in tactical exchange which the US plans which can be read from their actions of ABM shield construction, more tactical nukes deployment to germany, NATO hardcore propaganda of the "Russians are coming!" to get the population ready for war rhetoric. The US will be untouched by those nukes, europe however will lose almost everything, entire decapitation.
    avatar
    max steel

    Posts : 2967
    Points : 2998
    Join date : 2015-02-12
    Location : South Pole

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  max steel on Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:16 pm

    Give them an ultimatum if they agree fine enough and if they dont simply deploy 50 nuclear tipped Iksanders in Kaliningrad.
    avatar
    sepheronx

    Posts : 7252
    Points : 7546
    Join date : 2009-08-06
    Age : 28
    Location : Canada

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:11 pm

    Iskander is a key weapon here. Traditional BM's fly all the same trajectory but Iskander flies a quasi ballistic path which would make it very difficult to intercept or possibly even to track. If they can use same missile but drasticallly increase distance of said missile, it will be even more a game changer.
    avatar
    franco

    Posts : 2597
    Points : 2635
    Join date : 2010-08-18

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  franco on Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:14 am


    During recent meetings of Putin drew attention to the foreign projects missile systems that could pose a threat to Russian security. According to the Russian president, the true purpose of these projects implemented US and its allies is no defense against nuclear attack, and the achievement of global military supremacy. Such a violation of the balance of power is very dangerous, because of what Russia will be forced to respond.

    Modernization of the Strategic Missile Forces


    According to the president, Russia will strengthen its strategic nuclear forces. It is planned to build a missile defense system, but for now the main task is to work on the shock systems that will be able to overcome any potential enemy defenses.

    There is an ongoing series production and supply of troops in the latest missile systems. Putin once again said that during 2015 the Strategic Missile Forces must obtain four regiments with the most modern missiles. This information was repeatedly voiced earlier by various officials, and now once again received confirmation. The president did not specify the type of new facilities, but most likely it was a system RS-24 "yars". Available information on the structure of the missile forces suggest that in the current year they will receive 36 new complexes.

    Progress has been made in the establishment of new missile systems, which in the future will replace the existing in-service equipment. The closest to the adoption intercontinental ballistic missile RS-26 "Boundary". She is a further development of the product family "Topol" / "yars" and has similar goals. Previously it stated that the complex "Boundary" in the distant future will replace the existing missiles "Topol-M" and the "yars". However, within the next few years, all three types of complexes, may be used in parallel.

    Drafting of the RS-26 was launched about ten years ago at the Moscow Institute of Thermal Technology. The existence of long-term project was known only to a few years later, when he reached the stage of construction of prototypes and testing. The first launch of an experimental rocket in September 2011 and ended in failure (according to other sources, they were successful throwing trials). Also in 2011 there was an alternative designation of the project, which is why different sources of complex PC-26 may be cited as the "Abroad" and "avant-garde".

    There are currently performed several test launches. Almost all starts, except the first, successfully completed the defeat of the conditional goal. In March 2015 it hosted another successful launch, after which it was decided to launch serial production of missiles, followed by the deployment of the troops.

    In 2014 and 2015 officials have repeatedly raised the topic timing of "Limit" on the arms. For example, last year argued that the missiles entered service in 2015. In the spring of this year, the Strategic Missile Forces Commander Col. Gen. Sergei Karakayev said that the complex will be commissioned in late 2015, and mass production will start within the first months of 2016.

    The project MS-26 "Boundary" entered the final stage. As soon as the new system will be put into service the Strategic Missile Forces, and over the next few months, the army received the first production missiles. By the end of next year on duty to intercede first compound, armed with new systems. So now the project "Border" can be considered successfully completed. Nomenclature RVSN added a new type of missile with improved characteristics.

    The missile RS-26 "Boundary" in the distant future would replace the system "Topol" and "yars". In the nearest future it is planned to gradually replace ICBM heavy class, such as the P-36M, etc., which is currently being drafted missile RS-28, "Sarmat". By now it becomes aware of some features of this promising project, but most of the information is still not subject to disclosure.

    Creating a project "Sarmat" was launched at the end of the last decade. The lead developer became State Rocket Center. Makeyev. In addition, the project employed some other enterprises, in particular, Reutov Machine-Building NPO. The aim of the project is the creation of a heavy liquid ICBM, which will replace the Strategic Missile Forces samples available in its class.

    The exact requirements for the missile remain unknown, though echoed some sample information. For example, the former chief of staff of the Strategic Missile Forces commander and consultant Missile Forces Viktor Yesin mentioned that the throw-weight of the new missile will reach 5 tons. The flight range is not disclosed. At the same time Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borisov last year noted that the prospective ICBMs able to fly over the North or South Pole.

    In the late spring of last year Y. Borisov also said that all the work on the project "Sarmat" goes according to schedule. In the summer of 2015 there were reports according to which is currently under the third phase of development work. At the same time he mentioned that the prospective missile flight tests will begin next year.

    Previously available information on the timing of construction of the first prototype of the product PC-28. According to Tass, the first prototype of the rocket must be built by the middle of autumn. In the future it will be used in the first trial throwing in which to check the work of the launcher and its systems. It was also reported that as of the end of June the assembly of the prototype is completed by 60%.

    At the moment, we can assume that the test missile RS-28, "Sarmat" will start next year, after which time it will take to carry out all necessary checks and modifications. As a result, prospective ICBMs able to go to the series and went on duty a few years. It has repeatedly argued that the range of "Sarmat" will go into operation by the end of the decade - in 2018-20, respectively. Given the available information on the current status of the project timeframe look real.

    Currently in service with the Strategic Missile Forces are composed of several types of facilities, including developed several decades ago in the Soviet Union. In recent years carried out a program of modernization of weapons RVSN, which aims to create and formulation of the duty of new missile complexes. The result of the current work should be complete rejection of the use of legacy systems with the transition to new ones.

    Several years ago, to finalize the draft RS-24 "yars", after which the Strategic Missile Forces began receiving a new type of rocket. The following year, the troops will receive the first batch of systems "Boundary". By the end of the decade arsenal of missile troops replenish complex "Sarmat". Thus, to the 2020-22 base year arms Strategic Missile Forces will be complex created for the last 10-15 years, which will positively affect the combat capability of the Strategic Missile Forces and strategic security.


    Vann7

    Posts : 3471
    Points : 3583
    Join date : 2012-05-16

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  Vann7 on Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:40 am

    Werewolf wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:How do they propose to do this?

    No information.  Reduce the boost phase time.   The faster the boost phase the closer the ABM missiles have to be.   So NATO will
    have to deploy its ABM "shield" inside Russia itself.

    I wonder if they will have boosters on ICBMs.   Right now all of them are stacked stages.   Parallelizing the fuel burn during the boost
    phase achieves the time reduction.   They won't achieve the shell in gun efficiency of total burn (of powder) in a fraction of a second,
    but they can get the desired result.   Russia's large territory helps.   An interesting historical feature of Russia, its land mass was always
    a pain for invaders.

    You should know it and that was discussed before. The US ABM shields in eastern europe are not there to deal with ICBM's. That is something that is not even in their magnitude to achieve not to mention that majority of ICBM's are flying over north pole and only Canada is a country that would be in the trajectory to intercept them, but they do not have such a technology for such velocities and altitudes.

    The ABM shields in europe of the US are there to deal with russian tactical nukes, IRBM and air/navy launched tactical nukes, that is why US has deployed its tactical nukes in several european countries such as Germany, Turkey, Netherland, Italy and Belgia, not to mention the already existing tactical nukes of France and UK. They know and that is beyond doubt that russia will not and never use ICBM's or any strategic WMD's to annihilate anyone due M.A.D. and will be hand bound to retaliate in tactical exchange which the US plans which can be read from their actions of ABM shield construction, more tactical nukes deployment to germany, NATO hardcore propaganda of the "Russians are coming!" to get the population ready for war rhetoric. The US will be untouched by those nukes, europe however will lose almost everything, entire decapitation.


    AS far im aware. US ABM shield is there not to intercept any nuke.. could do it in midcourse but not exactly for that. The US ABM Shield main objective is for a first nuclear attack to decapitate RUssian leadership and its important military and economical facilities .and provoke a major civil war through nukes on the surviving people . So the ABM "shield" will be for blocking Russian defenses on NATO nuclear attacks. So NATO fire a nuke , Russia fire an S-500 to intercept it,the ABM shield intercept then is used to intercept the S-500 so the NATO missile can enter in Russia. Is like Footbal. The ABM shield can be used to block Russian defenses from intercepting
    their nukes.

    But the ABM shield can also be used for purely offensive attack . The missiles could be armed with nuclear warheads supposedly "to intercept ballistic missiles" but in reality is not to intercept anything but to attack Russia. Those "ABM Shield for example" its "interceptor missiles" could be nothing more than Trident 2/3 missiles deployed in ground near Russia. And US can deploy hundreds of Trident missiles on Land near Russia ,and each one with hundreds of decoys to overwhelm Russian defenses. It will be impossible to defend for Russia or anyone an attack of Hundreds of nuclear ballistics missiles and each one with hundreds of decoys. So 100 missiles with 100 decoys each ,means Russian defenses will need to intercept 10,000 targets that ll will look like missiles on radars but most will be decoys ,with conventional weapons or nuclear warheads.

    The ABM can also used to confuse Russian defenses ,before an attack.. launching thousands of decoys over the trajectory of any NATO missile. There have to be a reason why US have a military warehouse in Norway where they store Abraham tanks.. Norway ,yes the country at russian borders. is not for a tanks movie.. but after a total major nuclear attack on Russia and invasion will follow to take moscow quickly before Russia recovers. Don't understimate the evilness of the west. They Billionaire Elite in the west do NOT care about civilians or middle class. and some of them will be ready to sacrifice millions of american lives if in the end they destroy Russia.

    This is why Putin is worried about Americans militarization of its borders..Because yes Russia have nukes but the west is full of crazy people ,that have bunkers and have mansions in small islands that will not face any destruction .that consider acceptable losing 1/3 of US population if in the end they win.

    This means that for Russia having nuclear deterrence is not enough. THey need real way to stop NATO militarization of its borders and deployment of nukes.


    What i will do if Russia see US continues its hostilities and continue financing terror ,and shutding down Russian civilian Airplanes or attempts on Putin life, and continues militarization of europe and deploying nuclear weapons near Russia.  is to leave all weapons international agreements and start a weapon race. Build for example something like 100,000 to 300,000 kaliber cruise missiles with 5,000km to 10,000km range and build them with the easy option to arm them with nuclear warheads if needed.  and have ready all setup in hidden land based launchers..with the capability to launch them all at same time. And when Russia feel a nuclear war will happen and only force can solve it.. then launch enough missiles to decapitate
    the western leadership and their military facilities and economic zones.  So if for example Russia needs to fight Turkey.. and know it can avoid the war.. Russia can launch thousands of Cruise missiles at them (at the same time) and hit the 1,000 to 3,000 important targets in that country withing half an hour and competely decapitate that nation military and leadership in less than one hour. that by the time they discover they are at war.. they will have no plane or tank left or military base standing.

    Then deploy many thousands of nuclear missiles in CUba with nuclear warheads underground and others and build many merchant ships that could fire thousands of cruise missiles . and more importantly Russia needs to disperse on its territory all their important military installations if possible all underground and have all its borders fully covered with hundreds of tanks in case of an invasion.

    in Short US/NATO strategy is a first nuclear decapitation strike without warning and followed by
    a quick fast NATO invasion on Russia possibly from Norway or baltics or now ukraine. the confusion of so many nuclear attacks and being caught by surprise will make very hard to coordinate an offensive if a rain of nukes continues falling in Russia most important cities.
    Russia objectives should be similar to get rid of US government in a first surprise strike if they
    discover through intelligence that a nuclear attacked will happen and there is no way to stop it with politics. and that they need to strike first for maximum possible opportunity to stop the war before it began.
    avatar
    Werewolf

    Posts : 5357
    Points : 5588
    Join date : 2012-10-24

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  Werewolf on Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:48 am

    avatar
    jhelb

    Posts : 433
    Points : 500
    Join date : 2015-04-04
    Location : Previously: Belarus Currently: A Small Island No One Cares About

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  jhelb on Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:26 am

    According to the official statement, the purpose of the launch was "to test new combat payload for future ICBMs.

    Any insight guys about the new payload? Thanks.
    avatar
    George1

    Posts : 10514
    Points : 10991
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  George1 on Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:42 am

    It was an SS-25 launch


    _________________
    "There's no smoke without fire.", Georgy Zhukov

    avatar
    GunshipDemocracy

    Posts : 1570
    Points : 1608
    Join date : 2015-05-17
    Location : fishin on Stalin´s Strait between Mexico and Canada

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:34 pm

    Vann7 wrote: What i will do if Russia see US continues its hostilities and continue financing terror ,and shutding down Russian civilian Airplanes or attempts on Putin life, and continues militarization of europe and deploying nuclear weapons near Russia.  is to leave all weapons international agreements and start a weapon race. Build for example something like 100,000 to 300,000 kaliber cruise missiles with 5,000km to 10,000km range and build them with the easy option to arm them with nuclear warheads if needed.  and have ready all setup in hidden land based launchers..with the capability to launch them all at same time. And when Russia feel a nuclear war will happen and only force can solve it.. then launch enough missiles to decapitate
    the western leadership and their military facilities and economic zones.  So if for example Russia needs to fight Turkey.. and know it can avoid the war.. Russia can launch thousands of Cruise missiles at them (at the same time) and hit the 1,000 to 3,000 important targets in that country withing half an hour and competely decapitate that nation military and leadership in less than one hour. that by the time they discover they are at war.. they will have no plane or tank left or military base standing.

    Then deploy many thousands of nuclear missiles in CUba with nuclear warheads underground and others and build many merchant ships that could fire thousands of cruise missiles . and more importantly Russia needs to disperse on its territory all their important military installations if possible all underground and have all its borders fully covered with hundreds of tanks in case of an invasion. .


    Very true as for assumptions wrt peace loving exceptional nation unfortunately such solution has 2 painful disadvantages:

    a) time of flight - measured in hours in time when 10mins matters (unless preemptive stealh strike)

    b) The cost component of such amount of cruise missiles would kill Russian economy making Russia down without any war.


    IMHO the only way is an asymmetric response what Russia actually is doing. Tsunami torpedoes, missile trains Iskanders is first part, IMHO next will be sea-bed and/or airborne launched missiles probably space nukes and hypersonic, non ballistic, delivery vehicles.

    Tsunami torpedoes seem to be exceptional price/value tool to keep US at bay - all navy bases large industrial cities are "taken care off". UK, Hawaii, Benelux or Norway is no exception here. Obviously a harbored merchant ship with 200 nuked klubs near Nicaragua Canal does not hurt. Russia Smile
    avatar
    GunshipDemocracy

    Posts : 1570
    Points : 1608
    Join date : 2015-05-17
    Location : fishin on Stalin´s Strait between Mexico and Canada

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:37 pm

    Werewolf wrote:

    McCain-Leonid meteor shower Smile
    avatar
    jhelb

    Posts : 433
    Points : 500
    Join date : 2015-04-04
    Location : Previously: Belarus Currently: A Small Island No One Cares About

    According to the official statement, the purpose of the launch was "to test new combat payload for future ICBMs.

    Post  jhelb on Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:43 pm

    George1 wrote:It was an SS-25 launch

    That's right George. Just that I could not find a thread for SS-25. In case such a thread exists will you please move my above question to that thread. Thanks.
    avatar
    Project Canada

    Posts : 622
    Points : 627
    Join date : 2015-07-20
    Age : 29
    Location : Canada

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  Project Canada on Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:27 am

    with all the dumb fkery the US and NATO are doing to destroy Russia both internally and externally, Russia should take a more tougher response! maybe pull out from the treaty that prohibits nuke weapons in space and start reviving FOBS weapons, make life more horrifying for NATO that any more stupid move from them will lead to global extinction! I hate how events are unfolding now, Russia should really work on crashing the US economy, I dont care what scaremongers say about the severe global consequences of a bankrupt USA, just make it happen and deal with the consequences when the monster is gone.
    avatar
    GunshipDemocracy

    Posts : 1570
    Points : 1608
    Join date : 2015-05-17
    Location : fishin on Stalin´s Strait between Mexico and Canada

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:06 am

    Project Canada wrote:with all the dumb fkery the US and NATO are doing to destroy Russia both internally and externally, Russia should take a more tougher response! maybe pull out from the treaty that prohibits nuke weapons in space and start reviving FOBS weapons, make life more horrifying for NATO that any more stupid move from them will lead to global extinction! I hate how events are unfolding now, Russia should really work on crashing the US economy, I dont care what scaremongers say about the severe global consequences of a bankrupt USA, just make it happen and deal with the consequences when the monster is gone.

    I am also fan of of FOBS as good way to have lever against NATO homeland countries. Not against military but to make sure all Europe will be radioactive desert if bandits attack Russia.

    As you see in my signature IMHO best opportunity to keep US at bay is to have nukes powerful enough to trigger Yellowstone super-volcano. Below map of destruction zone. USA really screwed then...



    avatar
    max steel

    Posts : 2967
    Points : 2998
    Join date : 2015-02-12
    Location : South Pole

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  max steel on Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:37 am

    And your signature is factually incorrect, more of a wet dream.
    avatar
    Militarov

    Posts : 5538
    Points : 5579
    Join date : 2015-09-02
    Location : Serbia

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  Militarov on Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:46 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    Project Canada wrote:with all the dumb fkery the US and NATO are doing to destroy Russia both internally and externally, Russia should take a more tougher response! maybe pull out from the treaty that prohibits nuke weapons in space and start reviving FOBS weapons, make life more horrifying for NATO that any more stupid move from them will lead to global extinction! I hate how events are unfolding now, Russia should really work on crashing the US economy, I dont care what scaremongers say about the severe global consequences of a bankrupt USA, just make it happen and deal with the consequences when the monster is gone.

    I am also fan of of FOBS as good way to have lever against NATO homeland countries. Not against military but to make sure all Europe will be radioactive desert if bandits attack Russia.

    As you see in my signature IMHO best opportunity to keep US at bay is to have nukes powerful enough to trigger Yellowstone super-volcano. Below map of destruction zone. USA really screwed then...




    Actually for such event to happen you would need to place nuclear warhead couple hundred m under the surface of Yellowstone and then to detonate it.
    avatar
    GunshipDemocracy

    Posts : 1570
    Points : 1608
    Join date : 2015-05-17
    Location : fishin on Stalin´s Strait between Mexico and Canada

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:16 am

    Militarov wrote:
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    As you see in my signature IMHO best opportunity to keep US at bay is to have nukes powerful enough to trigger Yellowstone super-volcano. Below map of destruction zone. USA really screwed then...

    Actually for such event to happen you would need to place nuclear warhead couple hundred m under the surface of Yellowstone and then to detonate it.

    Well I presume that neither you nor myself are geologists and nuclear physicists. It is not my idea I just am fan of it if possible make such trigger if would create devastation zones on more then 50% of US. Rest traditional nukes and tsunamis.

    Quite cost effective solution in case of Russia´s cost of arms race.


    max steel wrote:And your signature is factually incorrect, more of a wet dream.

    Why not correct if may I ask?
    avatar
    max steel

    Posts : 2967
    Points : 2998
    Join date : 2015-02-12
    Location : South Pole

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  max steel on Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:25 am

    avatar
    GunshipDemocracy

    Posts : 1570
    Points : 1608
    Join date : 2015-05-17
    Location : fishin on Stalin´s Strait between Mexico and Canada

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:01 pm


    Austin

    Posts : 6333
    Points : 6733
    Join date : 2010-05-08
    Location : India

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  Austin on Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:26 pm

    Russian Strategic Missile Force new control system to retarget missiles instantly — source
    Military & Defense
    December 17, 14:45 UTC+3
    The system will being put into operation starting next year

    MOSCOW, December 17. /TASS/. A new automated system of the Russian Strategic Missile Force’s combat control will help retarget intercontinental ballistic missiles ‘instantly’ before their launch, a source in Russia’s General Staff told TASS on Thursday.

    Strategic Missile Force Commander Sergey Karakayev said on Wednesday the troops had received a new combat control system to promptly retarget missiles. The system will start to be put into operation from next year, he added.

    "The talk is about retargeting Russian intercontinental ballistic missiles immediately before their launch when a need arises suddenly to deliver a strike against other unplanned targets due to a sharp change in the situation. In this case, the new control system will enter new target coordinates into a missile in a remote control mode instantly to destroy the targets," the source said.

    If a missile has been launched, it can’t be retargeted, the source said. Today not a single nuclear power has such technology, the source added.
    avatar
    GarryB

    Posts : 16524
    Points : 17132
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  GarryB on Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:10 am

    If a missile has been launched, it can’t be retargeted, the source said. Today not a single nuclear power has such technology, the source added.

    Of course no nuclear power wants that capability... imagine launching all your missiles and find your enemies have cracked your codes and command all of your own missiles to hit your own cities... not good.


    _________________
    “The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion […] but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.”

    ― Samuel P. Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order
    avatar
    max steel

    Posts : 2967
    Points : 2998
    Join date : 2015-02-12
    Location : South Pole

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  max steel on Thu Dec 24, 2015 11:21 pm

    Russia Develops Automated Re-targeting Control System For ICBMs Cool

    Russia’s new automated system will help retarget intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) instantly before the launch.“The new system will be put into operation from next year. The Russian Strategic Missile Force’s combat troops had received a new combat control system to promptly retarget missiles,” Strategic Missile Force Commander Sergey Karakayev was quoted as saying by TASS news agency Thursday. "The talk is about retargeting Russian intercontinental ballistic missiles immediately before their launch when a need arises suddenly to deliver a strike against other unplanned targets due to a sharp change in the situation.

    In this case, the new control system will enter new target coordinates into a missile in a remote control mode instantly to destroy the targets," the news agency quoted an unnamed source as saying.

    If a missile has been launched, it can’t be retargeted, the source said. Today not a single nuclear power has such technology, the source added.



    avatar
    George1

    Posts : 10514
    Points : 10991
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  George1 on Sun Jan 03, 2016 4:10 am

    Strategic Missile Forces will complete the modernization of the radar at the Sary-Shagan in 2016

    On the test site we put all the necessary equipment, carried out installation and commissioning works

    MOSCOW, January 2. / TASS /. Upgrade test radar "Neman-P" at the Sary-Shagan in Kazakhstan will be completed in 2016, said the spokesman of the Defense Ministry of the Strategic Missile Forces, Major Dmitry Andreev.
    According to him, the landfill have put all the necessary equipment are ongoing installation and commissioning work.
    "In 2016, completed the modernization of the experimental test radar" Neman-P ", aimed at increasing information capabilities and increased lines of work stations, life extension and improvement of its operational reliability," - said Andreev.
    Earlier, the Strategic Missile Forces plan to complete the modernization of the radar station in 2016.
    From 1981 to 1991, "Neman-R" participated in measurements at more than 300 launches of ballistic missiles in the framework of the test warheads and systems to overcome air defense, including missile systems, "Pioneer" and "Topol". In addition, the station has been involved in the testing of the national missile defense system A-135.

    Подробнее на ТАСС:
    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2569230&usg=ALkJrhgXdQaWcLoln7DfXqzS3tqdEY-nRA


    _________________
    "There's no smoke without fire.", Georgy Zhukov

    avatar
    max steel

    Posts : 2967
    Points : 2998
    Join date : 2015-02-12
    Location : South Pole

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  max steel on Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:45 pm

    In 2016, the Rocket Forces plan to conduct 16 ICBM launches


    According to Karakayev's interview, two of them will be life extension launches and 14 - development.

    Austin

    Posts : 6333
    Points : 6733
    Join date : 2010-05-08
    Location : India

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  Austin on Sat Mar 26, 2016 7:09 am


    Dmitry Rogozin: “The United States can destroy a few hours up to 90% of our nuclear capability“


    http://kalevholland.planet.ee/russia-will-lose-the-war-for-america-360-minutes

    “For more than a decade in the United States worked out the concept of Prompt Global Strike. It provides striking non-nuclear weapons at any point on the planet in one hour, “- Rogozin said. “According to a war game conducted by the Pentagon at the end of last year, with the help of 3.5-4 thousand. Units of US precision weapons can destroy 6 hours basic infrastructure facilities of the enemy and prevent him to resist,” – he added.
    avatar
    sepheronx

    Posts : 7252
    Points : 7546
    Join date : 2009-08-06
    Age : 28
    Location : Canada

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:02 pm

    He is clearly incorrect and trying to scare for more funding (very common tactic).  The anti ballistic threat from US is a joke since you yourself posted the documents on the success rates and they were clearly pathetic, even against old Scud missiles.  Could it eliminate 90% of Russia's ICBM's?  No.  Could it remove 30%?  No.  Most ICBM's operate in a field greater than what these anti ballistic missile systems can do.  They are decent against Scuds and maybe some later variants, but clearly not against a Topol-M.

    Theoretically, if it could remove 90% of Russia's ICBM's, the remaining 10% would cause so much damage and havoc that no one is stupid enough to try it anyway.

    Would be helpful if the owner of that site (which is questionable at best) would at least provide a link.  I do when I reference nearly anything.

    Edit: So Rogozin is stating what US experts think. Problem is, all of us are aware of the high failure rates. Just look at Saudi Arabia and its conflict with Tunisia. How many rockets bypassed the SM-3 system and hit their intended targets?

    Point of the matter is that these ABM systems are greatly overblown. But after re-reading the article, he is clearly pushing an agenda which is evident by his demands to communicate with the military industrial commission on getting joint work down with Universities. I think his wish came true as I have read a week or so ago about work on MiC with universities and the Russian "DARPA".

    Sponsored content

    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:08 am