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    Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  Vladimir79 on Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:53 pm

    By the end of 2016 in the battle of SRF new missile systems will be at least 80 percent.


    Vlasikha, October 13. (ITAR-TASS). By the end of 2016 in the battle of the Strategic Missile Forces (RVSN), the new missile systems will be at least 80 percent. group, said Oct. 12 the commander of the Strategic Missile Forces, Lieutenant General Andrew Shvaychenko.

    Speaking about the main priorities of the Strategic Missile Forces until 2020, Shvaychenko called, inter alia, maintaining the performance of the missile group, extension of life of missile systems, re-missile systems to the new stationary and mobile home, improving the system of command and control weapons and troops.

    "With regard to the quantitative composition of the prospective strike group of the Strategic Missile Forces, it will certainly depend on the arrangements that will be registered in the new Russia-US treaty on strategic offensive arms", - stressed Shvaychenko.

    "Given a sufficiently long period of execution of the future agreement - for seven years, we maintain a prudent approach" to establishing "a forward-looking groups - said the general. - As today, no rocket launcher or a missile regiment will not be decommissioning before the end of maximum possible lifetime.

    "The emphasis in the construction of prospective strike group of the Strategic Missile Forces will be placed on its qualitative transformation, so that by the end of 2016 missiles to extend the service life amounted to no more than 20 percent. And the new missiles - at least 80 percent. Grouping - said the commander . - In the end, the Strategic Missile Forces will have a balanced structure, and the arms will always be the optimal number of missiles, designed to address the diverse goals of ensuring nuclear deterrence and security of Russia in ХХ1 century. "

    http://arms-tass.su/?page=article&cid=25&aid=76682&part=2
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    Russia test-fires Voyevoda ICBM

    Post  Russian Patriot on Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:43 am

    Russia test-fires Voyevoda ICBM

    RIA Novosti

    24/12/200910:59

    MOSCOW, December 24 (RIA Novosti) - Russia successfully test-launched a Voyevoda (SS-18 Satan) missile capable of carrying 10 warheads on Thursday morning, a Defense Ministry spokesman said.

    "The Strategic Missile Forces launched an intercontinental ballistic missile RS-20V (Voyevoda) from a site in the Orenburg region [southern Urals]," Col. Vadim Koval said.

    Koval said the missile hit the targets in Russia's Far East Kamchatka Peninsula.

    He said the launch was designed to test the missile's performance with the aim of extending its service life to 25 years.

    Introduced almost 21 years ago, the missile will remain in service until 2019, the Strategic Missile Forces (SMF) commander said earlier this year.

    Col. Gen. Nikolai Solovtsov said Russia is developing a new ICBM comparable to the SS-18, and would gradually decommission older versions of the missile "in order to ensure nuclear safety."

    The missile is armed with a warhead fitting 10 multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicles (MIRVs) with a yield of 550 to 750 kilotons each. It has a maximum range of 11,000 km (6,800 miles) with a launch mass of over 210 tons and a payload of 8.8 tons.

    According to publicly available sources, Russia currently has 88 SS-18 missile silo launchers, most of them deployed at the Dombarovsky missile base in the Orenburg Region.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/russia/2009/russia-091224-rianovosti04.htm


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    Medvedev: Russia to Develop New Nuclear Missiles

    Post  Russian Patriot on Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:48 am

    Medvedev: Russia to Develop New Nuclear Missiles

    Jessica Golloher 24 December 2009

    Russian President Dmitri Medvedev says his country will develop a new generation of nuclear weaponry, even as it works toward a new strategic arms treaty with the United States.

    Mr. Medvedev spoke Wednesday in Moscow, in a wide-ranging interview with the editors of three state-controlled television channels.

    He said new missile technology will be developed in full accordance with any new arms agreements reached with Washington.

    The current Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty expired earlier this month, and senior U.S. and Russian officials say they expect to reach a new accord in early January.

    Mr. Medvedev and U.S. President Barack Obama agreed to pursue a new nuclear arms pact in July at a summit in Moscow.

    At that time, officials said a new draft treaty would include reductions in each country's arsenal from current levels to between 1,500 and 1,675 "operationally deployed" warheads in the next seven years.

    The Russian leader also praised Mr. Obama's recent call for a nuclear weapons-free world, calling it a "beautiful and right goal." But he said movement toward that objective should be gradual and should require other nuclear-armed countries to cut their arsenals as well.

    Mr. Medvedev used the interview to touch on a host of other topics, chief among them the environment and the economy. State-owned media quote the president as saying he is dissatisfied with this month's global warming summit in Copenhagen, calling it "a lot of hot air." He said Russia will none-the-less continue to push for domestic energy efficiency and cuts in carbon emissions.

    The president also said Russia has survived the global economic crisis with no major losses. He said the country could see its gross domestic product grow by 2.5 to five percent in 2010, "in an optimistic scenario."


    Some information for this report was provided by AFP, AP and Reuters.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/russia/2009/russia-091224-voa01.htm
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    Re: Strategic Missile Troops (ICBMs): Discussion & News

    Post  Stealthflanker on Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:22 am

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    Maybe that is a good idea for Russia in recycling their old ICMB

    Post  sepheronx on Sat May 01, 2010 10:20 pm

    You know, maybe that is a good idea for Russia in recycling their old ICMB's or theater ballistic missiles.  Turn them into interceptors.
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Sun May 02, 2010 1:12 am

    sepheronx wrote:

    You know, maybe that is a good idea for Russia in recycling their old ICMB's or theater ballistic missiles. Turn them into interceptors.

    Best thing for recycling old ICBMs is the scrap heap, unless it is safe enough to launch an LEO Sat.
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    Post  sepheronx on Sun May 02, 2010 6:54 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:

    You know, maybe that is a good idea for Russia in recycling their old ICMB's or theater ballistic missiles. Turn them into interceptors.

    Best thing for recycling old ICBMs is the scrap heap, unless it is safe enough to launch an LEO Sat.

    But what about putting up a conventional warhead and use it as an interceptor?
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Sun May 02, 2010 7:56 am

    sepheronx wrote:

    But what about putting up a conventional warhead and use it as an interceptor?

    Why would you make a ballistic missile an interceptor? It is called ballistic because it has a very limited flight path that only goes two places... up-down. The only time you can use a ballistic missile to shoot down space targets is when you know exactly were they are going to be. China does that and I can tell you it has limited to no combat value. They have the ability to shoot down a satellite in a decayed orbit... and it took them several years to prepare for it. They knew exactly where it would be and where to point their ballistic missile trajectory. It isn't something they can do on the fly. Same goes for their so called "missile intercept." They have to get their kill vehicle within a couple kilometres of the target and without knowing the target path months in advance, they won't be able to do anything about it.
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    Post  sepheronx on Sun May 02, 2010 9:15 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:

    But what about putting up a conventional warhead and use it as an interceptor?

    Why would you make a ballistic missile an interceptor? It is called ballistic because it has a very limited flight path that only goes two places... up-down. The only time you can use a ballistic missile to shoot down space targets is when you know exactly were they are going to be. China does that and I can tell you it has limited to no combat value. They have the ability to shoot down a satellite in a decayed orbit... and it took them several years to prepare for it. They knew exactly where it would be and where to point their ballistic missile trajectory. It isn't something they can do on the fly. Same goes for their so called "missile intercept." They have to get their kill vehicle within a couple kilometres of the target and without knowing the target path months in advance, they won't be able to do anything about it.

    Fair enough. Then what about turning it into a conventional weapon rather then Nuclear? For instance, the conventional weapon that US is wanting to produce?
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Sun May 02, 2010 1:08 pm

    sepheronx wrote:

    Fair enough. Then what about turning it into a conventional weapon rather then Nuclear? For instance, the conventional weapon that US is wanting to produce?

    They don't have the CEP to make it effective.
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    You know, maybe that is a good idea for Russia in recycling their old ICMB's or theater ballistic missiles. Turn them into interceptors.

    Post  GarryB on Mon May 03, 2010 12:36 pm

    The Best use for old Russian ICBMs is to launch foreign and domestic satellites.
    I remember reading somewhere that the SS-18 is so successful as a satellite launcher that the heavy weight replacement for it will be specifically designed for satellite launches after it is time expired as a weapon.

    BTW if you wanted to use an old ICBM as a booster for an interceptor I don't see what the problem would be.
    It is the final stage of the system that is used for the interceptor, the earlier stages are just boosters to get it up and moving fast.

    As long as the payload stage could be controlled with accuracy there is no reason why it couldn't be used as an interceptor missile exactly like the GBI.

    They don't have the CEP to make it effective.

    Some form of terminal homing could easily correct that.

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    Geomagnetic storms do not affect the combat readiness of the Strategic Rocket Forces

    Post  Austin on Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:21 pm

    Very interesting piece of news ( via rian.ru )

    Geomagnetic storms do not affect the combat readiness of the Strategic Rocket Forces

    Coming soon geomagnetic storms caused by solar flares, as well as other weather phenomena do not have a material impact on the performance of systems, command and control of Strategic Rocket Forces (RVSN), told reporters in Moscow on Thursday Press secretary of the press service of Defense Ministry and the information on the SMF Colonel Vadim Koval.

    "Existing in the SMF command and control system allow us to exclude any influence of external sources to the combat readiness of troops," - he said.

    According to Koval, the paths communicating orders and gathering reports, automated command and control forces are formed by wire, radio and satellite communications and have the necessary vitality and noise immunity.

    "At the same time, very importantly, provides command and control would bring orders directly to the launchers, bypassing intermediaries, including in nuclear effects and jamming," - said the representative of the SRF.

    At the same time they possess properties such as compactness, low energopotreblyaemost, stealth communication, resilience and reliability of the operation, said Koval.


    The system of combat duty in the Strategic Missile Forces have built strictly "vertical" and provides it with the bearing on the central control SRF paragraphs management associations, formations and military units, directly on the missile and nuclear weapons, as well as communication centers, technical positions and airfields.

    A total of peacetime duty in the Strategic Missile Forces combat positions on a daily basis is about 6,5 thousand people. In this part of duty forces are capable of independently (without involving the main body of troops) continuously monitor the status of nuclear missiles, keep it in readiness for use with a guaranteed supply of nuclear security and on receipt of orders to launch rockets and carry out priority activities for the transfer of troops from peace an state of war.

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    Post  Austin on Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:13 am

    Russia will create a "breakthrough" ballistic missile

    Russia takes a heavy liquid to create a new intercontinental ballistic missile, which will be able to break through any existing and future missile defense system, taken into service until 2050-ies. On this, as reported by ITAR-TASS news agency , said General Director of the Corporation Rosobschemash Arthur Usenko.According to him, in order to develop missiles that will eventually replace the R-36M ICBM, "Voivod", was given in 2009.

    In mid-December 2009 the then acting commander of the Strategic Missile Forces Shvaychenko Andrew , said that the new ballistic missile will be established by the end of 2016. According Usenkova posed a missile, and also as "Leader" will have multiple warheads with ten independently targetable warheads.She will be able to overcome any missile defense system, whether missile defense or NATO's European missile defense.

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    Post  Austin on Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:54 pm

    Some updates from today Yuri Solomonov press conference ( rian )

    From 2016 the Russian strategic missiles would have new warhead

    He noted that the modernization will affect the combat equipment (ie, warheads), and "Will this work for three or four years, after which we proceed to mass production, and in 2016 our missiles will already be a new military equipment," - he said.

    Not possible to have rail based RS-24

    "Regarding the railway complex, really, it could be. Such design work carried out, and found it inappropriate to develop these works due to the fact that in terms of survivability, compared with moving ground complexes, it is the same," - said Solomon at a press conference in RIA Novosti.

    US violated INF Treaty by creating test target missile

    The Americans went a long way: they held a flight tests with the missile" Hera "- is virtually medium-range missiles, but formally they can not grasp the hand, because they used it as a launch target when developing the ABM treaty and apply to missiles ground-to-earth. "Nevertheless, they have tested this missile," - he said.

    He explained that despite the fact that, theoretically, "Hera" is a rocket cash "ground-to-air missiles, to modify it to ground-to-earth" is not difficult. "Because after we flew in an active plot to fly to land on a ballistic trajectory of the mind do not need much" - said the designer.

    Rearmament of the Russian Federation on the Topol-M will end by 2012

    "By 2012, the task will be fully completed. Deploying runs parallel to, somewhere will put missiles yars, and somewhere to be," Topol-M. This task will be completed by 2012 "- Solomon said at a press conference in RIA Novosti "Strategic Weapon: today and tomorrow."

    Solomon noted that the single-warhead Topol-M has a more powerful warhead that could destroy the well-protected targets.

    At the same time, he said, the rocket yars "with multiple head units are capable of destroying not one but many goals.

    Armaments program of the Russian Federation provides for the creation of a new heavy missiles

    "The government program of weapons of work on the creation of heavy missiles are fixed, but I think it necessary to confine it sketch design work, so that in 2012-2013 could be taken collectively, that is, with the participation of experts, decide on further work to build such missiles, "- said Solomon.

    He considers it essential that such a complex and important issue as the establishment of a new type of strategic weapons, not to be taken exclusively by the Ministry of National Defense.

    "This issue goes beyond the competence of the Ministry of Defence. It's a question state" - said Solomon.

    According to Solomon, the effort spent on developing new heavy missiles, would not reduce the technological gap with other countries, in particular with the United States.Moreover, "this is (the development of heavy missiles), which makes the technological lead irreparable."

    Russia plans in 2011 to carry out 5-4 launches Bulava

    "We are planning for next year to spend four or five launches for producing statistics," - said Solomon.
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    Post  Andy_Wiz on Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:26 am



    I edited this vid, sorry no sound... Im new to video editing Rolling Eyes
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    Some updates from today Yuri Solomonov press conference ( rian )

    Post  GarryB on Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:47 am

    Thanks for the info and the vid.

    BTW the coughing and heavy breathing on the vid... are you a smoker? Twisted Evil

    The lack of a rail launched version is no real surprise, and at the end of the day although it would be neat to have them on the Russian Rail network I think silo and truck based versions would be enough to manage from a security point of view.

    I wonder if they will try to unify the design of the new heavy missile with a new satellite launcher platform... the SS-18 has been popular as a satellite launch platform as a method of disposal of the missiles... I just think it is nice to know they are used for something practical rather than just destroyed when their life span expires.

    Of course there may be issues with verification where the US could accuse them of making too many "missiles".

    Of course the current START treaty seems to be about deployed warheads and deployed launch platforms because the US is not destroying the warheads it is removing from its missiles and weapons, it is storing them for potential use.

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    Post  Austin on Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:28 pm

    Some new details have emerged on the new Signal system being upgrade to 4th Gen Standards used by SRF .link

    The new Signal system looks like all digital system with triple redundancy in communication but reliability seems to be a issue with only 99.999 % reliable

    SRF moving to a new automated control system
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    The Russian Strategic Rocket Forces (SRF) are implementing the automated control system (ACS), the fourth generation with triple redundant communication channels, said the commander of the Strategic Missile Forces, Lieutenant General Sergei Karakayev.

    Currently, the SRF is the introduction of ACS units of the fourth generation. In each set of control equipment is provided triple redundancy," - said the commander in a report released Thursday interview with " Izvestiya ".

    He noted that at a time when increasing the importance of each launcher and warheads, and significantly increases the role of the management of strategic nuclear forces. "All this is achieved by continuous collection of reports in the management of the Strategic Rocket Forces, as well as high dependability of its equipment parts management", - said Karakayev.

    Troubleshooting equipment located up to a model element to be replaced, he said. "The implementation of works on creation and introduction of latest technology of communication and automation management, competitive with the best foreign counterparts, will not only maintain the existing level of reliability management Strategic Rocket Forces, said rocketeer" three nines after the decimal point( 99.999 %) but also greatly enhance the sustainability of the SMF in all conditions of the situation "- added the commander of the Strategic Missile Forces.

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    Post  Austin on Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:29 pm

    Oh I am a late entrant to this thread but this is my favourite topic , I have mentioned this on another board , they are developing a new charge (TN) and new RV.

    So what they will get is a lighter warhead with same or better yeald and a new RV , the new RV will be an autonomous one , which carries small fuel , control surface ( most likely jet control surfaces ), guidance and warhead.

    Most of the manouvering are done in space , any manouvering done in atmosphere will slow it down and it will impart tremendous G on the warhead , so any atmospheric manouvering is at best non existant , the only manouvering if it will every do will be to correct its terminal accuracy , for which it does not need much.

    These warhead are autonomous and have guidance of their own making it far accurate then the free fall provided by bus ejected passive RV.

    Most of the anti-ABM manouvering will take in space as most percentage of ABM are space based , one the small RV is gravitating towards the earth is it coming at a speed of Mach 18-22 and any terminal interceptor has a very tight job to intercept it , considering RV are small target and Russians have developed decoys that falls along with RV into atmosphere without slowing down , which means any ABM has to track the RV from Decoys which is almost impossible , so a terminal interceptor has to hit all the RV and Decoys thinking its the real warhead.

    All in all I was expecting this would come eventually and its very much doable.

    Plans are to refit the entire current range of Ballistic Missile SS-18,19,Topol with the new charge and RV and they are testing this currently on a modified Topol.

    check this http://russianforces.org/blog/2010/12/topol_launch_from_kapustin_yar.shtml
    http://vpk.name/news/48901_v_rossii_razrabotali_unikalnyie_yadernyie_boegolovki_neuyazvimyie_dlya_lyuboi_pro.html

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    Post  Pervius on Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:12 pm

    Sounds like they figured out THAAD would hit the bus so they designed something to split up into many self guided objects to nullify THAAD missile defense? Well the US had to see that coming. Looks like THAAD's not going to get much done.
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:01 am

    Just based on what THAAD stands for I would suggest it was not designed to intercept ICBMs.

    Its purpose is to intercept theatre based BMs like Scud et al.
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    Post  nightcrawler on Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:58 am

    Austin wrote:Oh I am a late entrant to this thread but this is my favourite topic , I have mentioned this on another board , they are developing a new charge (TN) and new RV.

    So what they will get is a lighter warhead with same or better yeald and a new RV , the new RV will be an autonomous one , which carries small fuel , control surface ( most likely jet control surfaces ), guidance and warhead.

    Most of the manouvering are done in space , any manouvering done in atmosphere will slow it down and it will impart tremendous G on the warhead , so any atmospheric manouvering is at best non existant , the only manouvering if it will every do will be to correct its terminal accuracy , for which it does not need much.



    Rules of the game are changing with Airborne Lasers [no out-manoeuvring needed]. The next generation will use a solid state or FEL laser. The current one is a chemical laser that uses large tanks of extremely toxic chemicals.

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    Post  Austin on Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:07 pm

    nightcrawler wrote:Rules of the game are changing with Airborne Lasers [no out-manoeuvring needed]. The next generation will use a solid state or FEL laser. The current one is a chemical laser that uses large tanks of extremely toxic chemicals.

    Airborne laser can only hit targets in low atmosphere not space , and laser for ABM is as hyped today as it was during Regan Era Star Wars
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    Russian military to buy 36 ICBMs, 2 missile subs in 2011

    Post  Russian Patriot on Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:41 pm


    Russian military to buy 36 ICBMs, 2 missile subs in 2011

    RIA Novosti

    14:16 18/03/2011 MOSCOW, March 18 (RIA Novosti) - The Russian Defense Ministry will buy 36 strategic ballistic missiles, two strategic missile submarines and 20 strategic cruise missiles this year, Minister Anatoly Serdyukov said on Friday.

    Over 19 trillion rubles ($665 billion) has been set aside for the state arms procurement program, Serdyukov told a military board meeting attended by Russian President Dmitry Medvedev.

    The budget will also cover spacecraft (5), warplanes (35), helicopters (109), missile defense systems (21), multirole nuclear powered submarines (3) and a surface warship, he said.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/russia/2011/russia-110318-rianovosti01.htm
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:39 am

    I saw a surgical laser about 12 years ago that impressed the heck out of me.
    It was a hand held laser like a huge pen, but it had an arm attached to it like a dentists drill that led back to a large box the size of a small suitcase for the power.
    The laser was very powerful... as a demonstration the guy showing it pressed the laser to one side of a fairly thick telephone book and the time between when he pressed the button and when the laser burst through was a fraction of a second.

    Anyway... he described a new type of heart surgery to help with a condition where the muscle had enlarged and the thick walls were over working and the small internal volume meant lots of work for the muscle but little blood was actually being pushed around the body. The solution was to briefly stop the heart and place the laser on the outer muscle and fire short bursts. The laser burst through the heart tissue like it was tissue paper but the blood inside the heart actually stopped the laser going right through... the beam energy couldn't pass through the blood so it heated it up instead of continuing through as an intense beam. Due to the intense heat of the laser on the surface of the heart the hole cauterised itself but the inner muscle was burnt away and as the muscle contracted the inner muscle came together. This meant that for each hole burned into the heart a new area for more blood was created. After doing it a dozen times the internal volume for blood had more than doubled despite not actually cutting out tissue and when restarted it worked normally.

    Without the laser treatment that patient would have needed a heart donor or a pine box.

    Anyway what I am saying is that the performance of a laser is very strongly determined by the target it is hitting and lots of different materials can be used to either block a laser beam or dissipate its energy to defeat it.

    To be able to hit Russian ICBMs with ABLs you will need to find some way of getting large easy flying targets inside Russian airspace... by the time they are over the north pole they will be free flying missile warheads and decoys... that is the purpose of the TOPOL-M with its high energy fast burning boosters that only burn a few minutes to reduce the time to intercept them, and the purpose of new warheads.

    It should also be pointed out that anything you can put in a plane or in a satellite in space, you can put on the ground and supply with hundreds or thousands of times more power... to shoot down enemy platforms with lasers on them.
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    Post  nightcrawler on Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:40 pm

    Also plane is to fly 24hrs a day or a brigade of it continuing 24/7 like a plant engineer
    costly...

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