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    Re: Tu-160 and Tu-95MS ( Blackjack and Bears )

    Post  Militarov on Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:49 pm

    TU95MS arrived at factory "Avicor" in Samara to be overhauled







    Source: https://twitter.com/KURYERSAT/status/656507425386840065

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    Post  JohninMK on Fri Oct 30, 2015 9:38 pm

    ult wrote:
    Bit meaningless without any explanation.

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    Post  ult on Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:10 pm

    It's in the video description.

    Published on Oct 30, 2015 Tu160 bomber launches cruise missile during the scheduled training of Russian Armed Forces' control system. wrote:

    The video is self-explanatory though.

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    Post  JohninMK on Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:06 am

    ult wrote:It's in the video description.



    The video is self-explanatory though.
    Thanks, I just watched it here without going to Youtube so didn't see that.
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    Post  George1 on Fri Nov 20, 2015 4:59 pm

    Start cruise missiles with the Tu-160 on the territory of Iran

    In a video released on the Internet, there is footage of the bomb bay of Tu-160.



    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1585491.html


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    Post  George1 on Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:05 pm

    The modernized Tu-95MS "Dubna"













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    Post  franco on Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:33 am

    So the Tu-160's flew north to Murmansk and then around Scandinavia, past the British Isles (caused panic) down the Atlantic past France and Spain. Then across the Mediterranean over which they launched their ALCM's before flying over Syria, Iraq and Iran. Then up across the Caspian home arriving after 16h 20 minutes and 9500 kilometers.
    Pretty damn impressive!

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    Post  JohninMK on Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:47 am

    franco wrote:So the Tu-160's flew north to Murmansk and then around Scandinavia, past the British Isles (caused panic) down the Atlantic past France and Spain. Then across the Mediterranean over which they launched their ALCM's before flying over Syria, Iraq and Iran. Then up across the Caspian home arriving after 16h 20 minutes and 9500 kilometers.
    Pretty damn impressive!  
    By the other direct to/from runs on the Eastern route they showed the 'short' way to do the trip.

    This trip was not needed nor no accident. By running it, the RuAF certainly made the point pretty emphatically that the US is not the only one with a fully operational long range strategic bomber force.

    There must be a few analysts in the Pentagon now having to change their view as to the operational effectiveness of the Tu-160 and even the venerable Tu-95.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:20 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    franco wrote:So the Tu-160's flew north to Murmansk and then around Scandinavia, past the British Isles (caused panic) down the Atlantic past France and Spain. Then across the Mediterranean over which they launched their ALCM's before flying over Syria, Iraq and Iran. Then up across the Caspian home arriving after 16h 20 minutes and 9500 kilometers.
    Pretty damn impressive!  
    By the other direct to/from runs on the Eastern route they showed the 'short' way to do the trip.

    This trip was not needed nor no accident. By running it, the RuAF certainly made the point pretty emphatically that the US is not the only one with a fully operational long range strategic bomber force.

    There must be a few analysts in the Pentagon now having to change their view as to the operational effectiveness of the Tu-160 and even the venerable Tu-95.

    Probably the greenhorns, but the vets are having tears in their eyes and shaking their heads in joy, kinda like welcome back old friend. For many of these people the Soviet Union was the best enemy. Now all they do is crawling in the dirt trying to find Abu Al Assholi in his cave or give cookies to illiterate crime bosses and make them presidents of Utopian La La Lands.

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    Post  JohninMK on Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:30 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    franco wrote:So the Tu-160's flew north to Murmansk and then around Scandinavia, past the British Isles (caused panic) down the Atlantic past France and Spain. Then across the Mediterranean over which they launched their ALCM's before flying over Syria, Iraq and Iran. Then up across the Caspian home arriving after 16h 20 minutes and 9500 kilometers.
    Pretty damn impressive!  
    By the other direct to/from runs on the Eastern route they showed the 'short' way to do the trip.

    This trip was not needed nor no accident. By running it, the RuAF certainly made the point pretty emphatically that the US is not the only one with a fully operational long range strategic bomber force.

    There must be a few analysts in the Pentagon now having to change their view as to the operational effectiveness of the Tu-160 and even the venerable Tu-95.

    Probably the greenhorns, but the vets are having tears in their eyes and shaking their heads in joy, kinda like welcome back old friend. For many of these people the Soviet Union was the best enemy. Now all they do is crawling in the dirt trying to find Abu Al Assholi in his cave or give cookies to illiterate crime bosses and make them presidents of Utopian La La Lands.
    Those 'greenhorns' are probably in their late thirties/early forties so well up the power/experience tree. But I agree, the Soviets were a real, take seriously opponent.
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    Re: Tu-160 and Tu-95MS ( Blackjack and Bears )

    Post  franco on Sat Nov 21, 2015 3:27 am

    franco wrote:So the Tu-160's flew north to Murmansk and then around Scandinavia, past the British Isles (caused panic) down the Atlantic past France and Spain. Then across the Mediterranean over which they launched their ALCM's before flying over Syria, Iraq and Iran. Then up across the Caspian home arriving after 16h 20 minutes and 9500 kilometers.
    Pretty damn impressive!  

    EDIT: Am also seeing the flight was 13,000 kilometers.
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:07 pm

    Those 'greenhorns' are probably in their late thirties/early forties so well up the power/experience tree. But I agree, the Soviets were a real, take seriously opponent.

    I suspect what they really miss is an enemy with honour that generally played by the rules... someone they could respect on a professional level.


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    Post  George1 on Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:16 am

    Strategic aircraft with cruise missiles refueled at night



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    Post  x_54_u43 on Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:47 am

    Since we don't have a Tu-160M thread. Something I noticed on the latest ЗВЕЗДА release.



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    Re: Tu-160 and Tu-95MS ( Blackjack and Bears )

    Post  Werewolf on Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:32 am

    That is a ramming peak.

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    Post  wilhelm on Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:35 am

    I watched that video on another forum last night where that new "bump" on the LERX was also noticed.
    I assume it is an electronic warfare antenna?
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    Post  Project Canada on Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:42 pm



    Are the Tu-160s in this video New Frames? if so, they started fresh production of Tu-160s?
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    Post  franco on Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:42 pm

    Project Canada wrote:

    Are the Tu-160s in this video New Frames? if so, they started fresh production of Tu-160s?

    No production yet.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:48 am

    [quote="franco"]
    Project Canada wrote: No production yet.

    Psl correct me if I am wrong but they say about deep modernization in this video - 8:20 journalist is saying about "first Tu-22 with label M" like minute before that only missiles no bombs anymore and only external looks remains.

    So a bit confusing indeed. Especially in the light of news below:

    KRET: avionics for Tu-160M2 will create by 2020
    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2484527
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:33 am

    Sounds like you are confusing the new M upgrades with new model Blackjacks.

    The Tu-22M3 is being upgraded to the Tu-22M3M level, while the Tu-160 is being upgraded to the Tu-160M and the standard Bear is going from Tu-95MS16 to the Tu-95MSM.

    From 2020 and later they might put the new production Tu-160M models into production and they will likely be called Tu-160M2.

    the purpose of the M upgrades is a unification of existing missiles (Kh-32, Kh-101/102 etc etc) and the ability to use a range of precision guided bombs and missiles including satellite guided bombs.

    Actually before the M upgrades to all these platforms most couldn't even drop a bomb on a point target... previously they were used to drop masses of bombs on area targets, so the aircraft being used in Syria will have had some form of upgrade already.


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    Post  Militarov on Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:18 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    franco wrote:
    Project Canada wrote: No production yet.

    Psl correct me if I am wrong but they say about deep modernization in this video - 8:20 journalist is saying about "first Tu-22 with label M"  like minute before that only missiles no bombs anymore and only external looks remains.

    So a bit confusing indeed. Especially in the light of news below:

    KRET: avionics for Tu-160M2 will create by 2020
    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2484527

    M2 is future upgrate project/new production version. M is update being underway atm, well starting now.
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    Post  franco on Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:51 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    franco wrote:
    Project Canada wrote: No production yet.

    Psl correct me if I am wrong but they say about deep modernization in this video - 8:20 journalist is saying about "first Tu-22 with label M"  like minute before that only missiles no bombs anymore and only external looks remains.

    So a bit confusing indeed. Especially in the light of news below:

    KRET: avionics for Tu-160M2 will create by 2020
    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2484527

    M2 is future upgrate project/new production version. M is update being underway atm, well starting now.

    franco wrote??
    when and where?
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    Post  George1 on Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:59 am

    Russia successfully tests new cruise missile launch system for strategic bombers

    YEKATERINBURG, December 4. /TASS/. Russia has successfully tested a system to launch long-range cruise missiles directly from strategic aircraft's weapons bays, the defense contractor Start, part of state hi-tech corporation Rostec, told TASS on Friday. "The [b]9A-829K3 multi-position launcher[/b] is designed for suspending, transporting and launching long-range cruise missiles directly from a plane’s weapons bays," the defense contractor said. wrote:


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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:37 am





    Militarov wrote: M2 is future upgrate project/new production version. M is update being underway atm, well starting now.

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    GarryB wrote:the purpose of the M upgrades is a unification of existing missiles (Kh-32, Kh-101/102 etc etc) and the ability to use a range of precision guided bombs and missiles including satellite guided bombs.

    Actually before the M upgrades to all these platforms most couldn't even drop a bomb on a point target... previously they were used to drop masses of bombs on area targets, so the aircraft being used in Syria will have had some form of upgrade already.

    program host is actually stating that up to now Tu160 could use bombs and missiles and new one (i.e. M) will use only missiles 7:75


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