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    Tu-95MS "Bear"

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    Post  nemrod Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:15 am

    zepia wrote:According to the news, It's tu-95 not pakfa.
    Indeed, after verification it seems to be TU-95 and not PAK-FA, nevertheless US used to lie in this kind of incidents. But let's say that in this time they seems to be right, untill...we discover the truth.
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:19 pm

    Russia have more Accidents with military and planes that all other world nations combined..
    today ANOTHER.. yes ANother plane crash.. this time a TU-95 bear..  lets see this year alone..
    and in many of them with casualties on the pilots..


    Su-24 in Khabarovsk region 6th of July 2015
    MIG29 in Krasnodar region 3rd of July 2015
    MIG29 in Astrakhan region 4th of
    June 2015
    Su 34 in Voronezh region 4th of June 2015
    Tu-95 in Amur region 8th of June 2015

    and now this
    Tu 95 today....


    http://rt.com/news/273520-tu95-bomber-crash-russia/

    IF this is a case of the world Major incompetence ever seen ?
    It looks like Russia have lost more planes than Ukraine since early 2014 ,and Russia is not at war.  My bet this have to do with the Terrible state of Russia defense Industry ,when it comes
    to quality controls.. A revolution will be required ,reorganization . This is not embarrassing..
    this already surpassed anything unthinkable.. and this is not counting the casualties on soldiers
    on the ground.. that they are neither safe.. buildings also collapse..  Im just without words..
    Something needs to change and people kicked , turn the whole defense industry in a very profitable agency ,where people are paid well ,so they do a better job.. perhaps reduce the size
    of the army ,navy and airforce and have a smaller one but better paid soldiers and mechanics ,with modern facilities..

    When the next crash will be? can we hope to get a full month without an accident in Russia?
    in the military ?what you think? because it seems as if every 2-3 weeks someone is killed or
    have an accident in the armed forces in Russia.
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    Post  ExBeobachter1987 Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:29 pm

    Vann7 wrote:Russia have more Accidents with military and planes that all other world nations combined..

    Oh really?
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    Post  Honesroc Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:34 pm

    Vann7 wrote:Russia have more Accidents with military and planes that all other world nations combined..
    today ANOTHER.. yes ANother plane crash.. this time a TU-95 bear..  lets see this year alone..
    and in many of them with casualties on the pilots..


    Su-24 in Khabarovsk region 6th of July 2015
    MIG29 in Krasnodar region 3rd of July 2015
    MIG29 in Astrakhan region 4th of
    June 2015
    Su 34 in Voronezh region 4th of June 2015
    Tu-95 in Amur region 8th of June 2015

    and now this
    Tu 95 today....


    http://rt.com/news/273520-tu95-bomber-crash-russia/

    IF this is a case of the world Major incompetence ever seen ?
    It looks like Russia have lost more planes than Ukraine since early 2014 ,and Russia is not at war.  My bet this have to do with the Terrible state of Russia defense Industry ,when it comes
    to quality controls.. A revolution will be required ,reorganization . This is not embarrassing..
    this already surpassed anything unthinkable.. and this is not counting the casualties on soldiers
    on the ground.. that they are neither safe.. buildings also collapse..  Im just without words..
    Something needs to change and people kicked , turn the whole defense industry in a very profitable agency ,where people are paid well ,so they do a better job.. perhaps reduce the size
    of the army ,navy and airforce and have a smaller one but better paid soldiers and mechanics ,with modern facilities..

    When the next crash will be? can we hope to get a full month without an accident in Russia?
    in the military ?what you think?  because it seems as if every 2-3 weeks someone is killed or
    have an accident in the armed forces in Russia.


    Regarding the recent TU crash: it's pretty remote that all four engines would fail at the same time, regardless of who the manufacturer is. Speculation on my part, but this could be the result of poor-quality fuel. I heard the entire crew bailed out, any news on their condition?
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    Post  Honesroc Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:39 pm

    "However, according to a TASS source, “Preliminary data shows that a fuel valve collapsed and as a result all four engines failed.” -RT News

    Ah, there it is.
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:41 pm

    Honesroc wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:Russia have more Accidents with military and planes that all other world nations combined..
    today ANOTHER.. yes ANother plane crash.. this time a TU-95 bear..  lets see this year alone..
    and in many of them with casualties on the pilots..


    Su-24 in Khabarovsk region 6th of July 2015
    MIG29 in Krasnodar region 3rd of July 2015
    MIG29 in Astrakhan region 4th of
    June 2015
    Su 34 in Voronezh region 4th of June 2015
    Tu-95 in Amur region 8th of June 2015

    and now this
    Tu 95 today....


    http://rt.com/news/273520-tu95-bomber-crash-russia/

    IF this is a case of the world Major incompetence ever seen ?
    It looks like Russia have lost more planes than Ukraine since early 2014 ,and Russia is not at war.  My bet this have to do with the Terrible state of Russia defense Industry ,when it comes
    to quality controls.. A revolution will be required ,reorganization . This is not embarrassing..
    this already surpassed anything unthinkable.. and this is not counting the casualties on soldiers
    on the ground.. that they are neither safe.. buildings also collapse..  Im just without words..
    Something needs to change and people kicked , turn the whole defense industry in a very profitable agency ,where people are paid well ,so they do a better job.. perhaps reduce the size
    of the army ,navy and airforce and have a smaller one but better paid soldiers and mechanics ,with modern facilities..

    When the next crash will be? can we hope to get a full month without an accident in Russia?
    in the military ?what you think?  because it seems as if every 2-3 weeks someone is killed or
    have an accident in the armed forces in Russia.


    Regarding the recent TU crash: it's pretty remote that all four engines would fail at the same time, regardless of who the manufacturer is. Speculation on my part, but this could be the result of poor-quality fuel. I heard the entire crew bailed out, any news on their condition?
    Here you are

    MOSCOW, July 14 /TASS/. Two pilots of Russia's Tu-95MS strategic bomber that crashed in the far eastern Khabarovsk Territory, died, a Russian Defense Ministry source told TASS on Tuesday.

    "A search and rescue group of the Eastern Military District has discovered the points of impact of the two crewmen of the Tu-95MS strike aircraft. Both pilots died. Reports from the crash site said the pilots had died while landing," the Russian Defense Ministry said.

    It was earlier reported that the other five crewmembers of the aircraft had been delivered to the Khabarovsk aerodrome and their lives and health were not in danger.

    The aircraft crashed in the Khabarovsk Territory in the Russian Far East during a training flight on Tuesday morning.

    The flight was performed without an ammunition allowance. The plane crashed in a deserted area and there is no destruction on the ground.
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    Post  Firebird Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:01 am

    Very sad. We had near enough 2 yrs or so without a major post on this thread.
    Obviously the RuAF is seeing much higher flight hours these days. Sometimes with outdated planes. Hopefully the replacements with new/updated planes will continue or accelerate even. Ultimately a world power like Russia shouldnt have such a "bad run".

    I wonder if the change from cold/mild to hot weather is an issue. Probably yes.

    Altho note that America and others also have crashes.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:01 pm

    Honesroc wrote:"However, according to a TASS source, “Preliminary data shows that a fuel valve collapsed and as a result all four engines failed.” -RT News

    Ah, there it is.
    That sounds bogus. I cannot accept that the fuel supply system on a 4-engined military aircraft would include a single-point-of-failure whose mis-operation would result in total loss of fuel supply. Tankage and flow-lines would be redundant to isolate any single failure to no more than 2 engines.

    Dirty fuel however is a definite possibility.
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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:46 am



    In the last few weeks seven Russian military planes have crashed, including two Tupolev heavy bombers, which are part of Russia's air fleet of the nuclear bomb carriers.

    That many planes in such a short period of time? What is going on?
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    Post  Guest Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:49 pm

    TU95MS arrived at factory "Avicor" in Samara to be overhauled

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    Source: https://twitter.com/KURYERSAT/status/656507425386840065
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    Post  George1 Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:05 pm

    The modernized Tu-95MS "Dubna"

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    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1587607.html
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    Post  George1 Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:16 am

    Strategic aircraft with cruise missiles refueled at night

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    Post  George1 Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:44 am

    Video of the explosion and fire on take-off of a strategic bomber Tu-95MS of Russian Air Force (hull number "05 Red", registration number of the RF-94181) on the airfield Ukrainka (Amur region) late evening June 8, 2015.

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    Post  Firebird Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:50 pm

    George1 wrote:Video of the explosion and fire on take-off of a strategic bomber Tu-95MS of Russian Air Force (hull number "05 Red", registration number of the RF-94181) on the airfield Ukrainka (Amur region) late evening June 8, 2015.


    Wasnt this caused by contaminated fuel acc to the RuAF?
    Just looking at the name "Ukrainka".
    I dont believe in "coincidences".
    I wonder if it was a terror attack?
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    Post  George1 Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:19 pm

    VKS got a modernized Tu-95MS strategic bomber

    https://t.co/aRz7xRxLnt
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    Post  George1 Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:28 am

    Russian Aerospace Forces get another upgraded strategic bomber

    The plane was handed over to the Aerospace Forces on April 4

    MOSCOW, April 5. /TASS/. Another Tupolev Tu-95MS missile carrying strategic bomber was transferred to the Russian Aerospace Forces after upgrading, the press service of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) reported on Tuesday.

    "The plane has been upgraded within the framework of the state contract. Experts of the Tupolev joint stock company constantly carry out the work to maintain combat efficiency of the Russian Aerospace Forces’ Long-Range Aviation planes in part of the aircraft’s upgrading with more efficient and advanced systems," the report says.

    According to the UAC press service, the plane was handed over to the Aerospace Forces on April 4.

    UAC reported previously that the Russian industry in 2015-2016 would modernize more than 10 strategic bombers Tu-95MS. Now the Russian Aerospace Forces have a few tens of Tu-95MS the main armament of which are the X-55 strategic cruise missiles. It is one of the world’s most well-known turboprop strategic missile carrying bombers that have been in service for more than 50 years.


    More:
    http://tass.ru/en/defense/867440
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    Post  George1 Sun Aug 21, 2016 6:27 am

    Tu-95MS bombers with cruise missiles X-101

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    Post  George1 Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:25 am

    Another Tu-95MS caught fire



    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2197142.html

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    Post  AlfaT8 Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:47 pm

    Ok guys, i have been wondering if it's true that the Tu-95MSM can only launch 8 missiles, since the MSM is an upgrade from the MS-16 there would be no reason to remove the rotary launcher, yet i haven't found a source that could confirm this, they all mention the the 8 under-wing pylons, but no mention of whether the rotary launcher are still there, so can anyone clarify this issue?
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    Post  Guest Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:59 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:Ok guys, i have been wondering if it's true that the Tu-95MSM can only launch 8 missiles, since the MSM is an upgrade from the MS-16 there would be no reason to remove the rotary launcher, yet i haven't found a source that could confirm this, they all mention the the 8 under-wing pylons, but no mention of whether the rotary launcher are still there, so can anyone clarify this issue?

    Rotary launcher is still there.

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    Post  franco Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:09 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:Ok guys, i have been wondering if it's true that the Tu-95MSM can only launch 8 missiles, since the MSM is an upgrade from the MS-16 there would be no reason to remove the rotary launcher, yet i haven't found a source that could confirm this, they all mention the the 8 under-wing pylons, but no mention of whether the rotary launcher are still there, so can anyone clarify this issue?

    Rotary launcher is still there.

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    Have been wondering the same thing, the rotary launcher is still there but can it mount the new Kh101/102 as they are 1.4 meters longer then the Kh-55.

    EDIT: from this article it would seem the bomb bay is not large enough for the Kh101 http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-440.html


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    Post  Guest Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:13 pm

    franco wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:Ok guys, i have been wondering if it's true that the Tu-95MSM can only launch 8 missiles, since the MSM is an upgrade from the MS-16 there would be no reason to remove the rotary launcher, yet i haven't found a source that could confirm this, they all mention the the 8 under-wing pylons, but no mention of whether the rotary launcher are still there, so can anyone clarify this issue?

    Rotary launcher is still there.

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    Have been wondering the same thing, the rotary launcher is still there but can it mount the new Kh101/102 as they are 1.4 meters longer then the Kh-55.

    Well, it is still there, but it might be kept to use KH-55 rather than KH-101. But that is just my personal belief.

    So they use KH-101/2 on external rackets and rotary launcher for KH-55.
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:43 pm

    By shear coincidence we have this video and writeup

    https://southfront.org/russias-tu-95ms-bear-strategic-bomber-and-missile-carrier/
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    Post  AlfaT8 Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:55 am

    JohninMK wrote:By shear coincidence we have this video and writeup

    https://southfront.org/russias-tu-95ms-bear-strategic-bomber-and-missile-carrier/

    Not a coincidence, i brought up this question up after noticing this issue in there report, i have yet to find a source that can clarify.
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    Post  franco Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:00 am

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:By shear coincidence we have this video and writeup

    https://southfront.org/russias-tu-95ms-bear-strategic-bomber-and-missile-carrier/

    Not a coincidence, i brought up this question up after noticing this issue in there report, i have yet to find a source that can clarify.

    Did you read my link.

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