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    Ka-226 and Kazan Ansat LUHs


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    Re: Ka-226 and Kazan Ansat LUHs

    Post  d_taddei2 on Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:22 am

    I agree of course your own engines is a better option but it seems that when they designed it they used western engines for silly reasons. But the Iran option was a way of avoiding western engines and sanctions and ad for USA complaining let them it's effectively an iranian engine regardless of origins so they can sell to who they want. And USA hasn't complained about Iran using it and they hate Iran. And don't forget that Russia is still supplying rocket engines to USA for now. I just think in future if an Russian engine isn't available an iranian one would be a safer option. But Russia is doing the sensible thing now and making most of its own parts etc

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    Re: Ka-226 and Kazan Ansat LUHs

    Post  GarryB on Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:44 am

    The reason they were forced to use western engines is because they had none of their own in that weight class.

    Medium and light helicopters were not made in the Former Soviet Union... the Mi-2 was designed by Mil but produced in a warsaw pact country.

    When that relationship stopped they could either continue to buy from what was now an unfriendly country that soon became part of NATO, or develop their own products... it was easy enough to develop new light helos, but new engines are not so easy to put together.

    They went with French and American engines simply because they were already developed and would make their products more popular on the international market. Now however it makes more sense for them to spend money and develop new engines of their own... not cheap and not fast but in the long term the best option.

    Buying engines from Iran or China is not a long term solution either.

    Note many of the similar situations involved licence production first and then domestic evolution of the product, like thermal imagers etc.

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    Re: Ka-226 and Kazan Ansat LUHs

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:39 am

    Two naval Ka-226 delivered to customer

    They don't elaborate but I assume that these two helos are for Coast Guard?

    Can anyone clarify?

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    Re: Ka-226 and Kazan Ansat LUHs

    Post  medo on Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:42 am

    Most probably they are for Coast Guard 22460 patrol ships.

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    Re: Ka-226 and Kazan Ansat LUHs

    Post  AMCXXL on Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:50 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Two naval Ka-226 delivered to customer

    They don't elaborate but I assume that these two helos are for Coast Guard?

    Can anyone clarify?

    camouflage of the Border Guard Service (Пограничной службы):
    Guard Coast is a branche of Border Guard , that handle the ships

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    Re: Ka-226 and Kazan Ansat LUHs

    Post  George1 on Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:39 pm

    The Ministry of Defense of Russia has received ten new helicopters "Ansat-U"

    As reported on December 20, 2017 by the Department of Information and Communications of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the final batch of new training helicopters Ansat-U entered the training aviation base of the Air Force Academy named after NE Zhukovsky and Yuri Gagarin, in the Saratov region. Crews Syzran branch of the Academy have completed the relocation of five helicopters from the manufacturer to the airport dislocation.

    The State Defense Order-2017 for the supply of 10 helicopters of this type is completely completed. In November, five Ansat-U helicopters were also delivered to the Air Force Academy.

    On the bmpd side, we recall that on June 5, 2017, the Russian Defense Ministry concluded another contract with PJSC Kazan Helicopter Plant (KHZ, part of the Russian Helicopters JSC) for the supply of ten Ansat-U training helicopters at a total cost of 2,075,438 billion rubles. The delivery was to be made by December 31, 2017, and was implemented on time.

    The first five Ansat-U helicopters arrived in the training aviation group at the Sokol aerodrome (Saratov region) of the Syzran branch of the Military Educational and Scientific Center of the Military Space Station "The Air Force Academy named after Professor NE Kuznetsov. Zhukovsky and Yu.A. Gagarin "on November 19, 2017. Now the remaining five helicopters are delivered. The prospective serial numbers of the helicopters delivered in 2017 from 33078 to 33087 are not yet known.

    Thus, by the present time, the Russian Defense Ministry has received 50 Ansat-U helicopters under three contracts. Under the first contract, the KVZ supplied the Russian Air Force with eight Ansat-U helicopters (serial numbers from 33028 to 33035), including six in 2009 and two in 2010. Then the Ministry of Defense on March 1, 2011 signed a contract with KVZ to supply 32 Ansat-U vehicles. The contract cost of one Ansat-U helicopter under this contract was 127.72246 million rubles without VAT. Under this contract, five Ansat-U helicopters were delivered by the Russian Air Force in 2011, six in 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015, and three in 2016 (serial numbers from 33036 to 33067).

    Of the delivered Ansat-U helicopters, the first three helicopters (28, 29 and 30 onboard numbers, coinciding with the latest figures of seriynyh numbers) were built in 2009 in the training center of army aviation in Torzhok, and the remaining 47 vehicles from 2010 the Air Force Academy named after Professor NE Zhukovsky and YA Gagarin (the side numbers of the first 37 helicopters from the " 31 "to" 67. ") In 2015, two Ansat-U helicopters were were transferred from Syzran to the 800th Special Purpose Aviation Base (now the 8th Special Aviation Division) at the Chkalovsky airfield outside Moscow, then changing the airborne numbers from "59" and "60" to "259" and "260" respectively, .

    According to the known data, as a result of the implementation of the 2017 contract for the supply of ten Ansat-U helicopters to the Ministry of Defense, and the continuing supply of Ansat helicopters with a hydro-mechanical control system (HMSS) in medical performance for State Transport Leasing Company (GTLK) , the total number of the Ansat helicopters built by the helicopter of all modifications has now reached 80 units - seven prototypes (five with EDSU and two with HMSU), 50 Ansat-U military vehicles with EDSU, 12 civilian with EMF, 11 civilian with HMSU.

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