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HMS Queen Elizabeth: Leak forces aircraft carrier to abandon sea trials

Just reading that headline, I wondered what she had said about Trump in confidential emails leaked to UK papers...

British Type 31 frigates will be built by Babcock

On September 12, 2019, the British Babcock International Group announced that it had been selected by the UK government to build five new Royal 31 type frigates. Thus, the Babcock Team 31 consortium led by Babcock, which also includes the BMT British design and industrial group, the Danish company Odense Maritime Technology (OMT) and the Thales group, won the tender for the design and construction of five promising British Type 31 frigates.

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The new British aircraft carrier Prince of Wales went to sea

On September 19, 2019, the second completed aircraft for the Royal Navy of the United Kingdom, type Queen Elizabeth, was launched from the British shipbuilding company Abcock Marine in Rosayte to the sea to start factory tests. During the first embarkation at sea, upon completion of the first stage of factory sea trials, the ship will transfer to Portsmouth, where it will be based during the period of subsequent trials.








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The British fleet received the second aircraft carrier R 09 Prince of Wales

On December 10, 2019, in Portsmouth, the official ceremony of handing over to the Royal Navy the second aircraft carrier R 09 Prince of Wales of the Queen Elizabeth type built for him took place. A British naval flag was hoisted on the ship. The ceremony was attended by Prince of Wales Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall.



Two new British aircraft carriers R 08 Queen Elizabeth (right) and R 09 Prince of Wales (left) in Portsmouth, 12/03/2019 (c) the British Navy


In fact, the aircraft carrier R 09 Prince of Wales is in the testing phase. The ship first went to sea to factory sea trials from the British shipbuilding company Vabcock Marine in Rosayte on September 19, 2019 (the tests actually started on September 22) and upon completion on November 22 arrived in Portsmouth, where the lead ship R 08 Queen Elizabeth, which was introduced the UK Navy on December 7, 2017. Queen Elizabeth herself arrived in Portsmouth from the next cycle of combat training and testing off the US East Coast on December 3, 2019. It is expected that the Prince of Wales trials will last throughout 2020, and the ship itself will only reach full combat readiness in 2023.

The construction of the head ship R08 Queen Elizabeth has been in Rosyte since 2009. The Queen Elizabeth Baptism Ceremony was performed on July 4, 2014, the lead aircraft carrier was removed from the dry dock of the Rosyth Shipyard on July 17, 2014 and began factory trials on June 26, 2017. The ship was officially commissioned by the British Navy on December 7, 2017. Queen Elizabeth is scheduled to be operational in 2021.

The Prince of Wales became the Royal Navy’s largest ship in history, because it is reported that due to changes and improvements to the second ship’s design, it has a total displacement of 3,000 tons more than Queen Elizabeth (the final design displacement of the latter in most sources is characterized as 70,600 tons).
















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JohninMK wrote:We might have two carriers but without the ships to defend them what use are they? I know carriers have few functions nowadays.

Tom Newton Dunn
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Excl: The Royal Navy will be smaller than Italy’s for the first time because new warships have been delayed. Fleet to shrink to just 15 frigates and destroyers after MoD admission.

They can't sustain 2 carriers. They should have known that.

Sea Skua in service since 1972?

I remember during the Falklands war they were talking about rushing it into service with quick tests so they could use it in 1982... perhaps they were just trying to hype a weapon already in stocks but it sounded like an experimental weapon rushed into service at the time because of need.

They did but they couldn't cancel as there were assembled in Gordon Brown's constituency and 5000+ would have lost their jobs. Plus it would have stoked the Scottish independence fire. The UK's MoD learning to spread work around like the Pentagon to reduce the risk of cancellations.

That brilliant idea never seems to work out in anyones favour... I think a bean counter came up with it.

Ironically it would be brilliant if it forced the government and military to buy something that was really useful that they don't normally like spending money on... like CAS aircraft and body armour...

Nice video... but I notice a few interesting things.

First the cover for the lifting fan also acts as a big airbrake... now seeing as they clearly are using the ski jump for take off and are using the main engine in horizontal thrust position until the aircraft has cleared the ski jump to get max speed and then vector it down at 45 degrees or more to maintain height and continue flying forward... the problem of course is that the fan cover is acting like and airbrake at a time you really don't want to be using an air brake.

Having two panels split down the middle that open sideways like two half size vertical fins would allow much better acceleration during takeoff while still using the lifting fan.

Also it only landed vertically... no much more efficient rolling landings that offset the the amount of power needed to hold the aircraft in a hover by using the wings.

Notice that black patch of tarmac where the main engine is when the aircraft lands... and also not on every landing the instant the wheels hit the deck the engine shuts down immediately... no running the main engine with the nozzle pointed at the deck it seems... on landing or take off.

The Harrier they used to angle all four nozzles at 45 degrees and give it the juice... they normally got airborne well before they ran out of deck... up up and away...

I suspect what they have found with this aircraft is that full AB damages the deck so engine pointing down and hovering over the deck is limited to essential time only...

I wonder if they would not just be better without the lift fan at takeoff and using thrust vectoring to manouver into a vertical climb using the ski ramp with full AB in horizontal mode to gather the most speed energy and then as it leaves the top of the ramp angle the nozzle up to kick the nose up further at a 30 degree angle and then drop the nozzle down perhaps at a 20 degree angle down which together with full AB and the 30 odd degree upwards pitch of the nose would equate to an engine powered climb... but we know they can't run the engine in full AB for more than 90 seconds or the tail loses its stealthy coating and warps...

Really strange to see an aircraft taking off from a carrier with what appears to be a dorsal air brake deployed...

Tsavo Lion wrote:'Global Britain' takes aim at China in South China Sea

Could you stop spoiling the forum with a same link all day ? We already saw it two times and you were already told to put your links directly and not hide them behind some hypertext. You also have to comment about what it is talking.

You are becoming annoying. The orange square on the front page redirect to your shit because you spoil the forum. We miss some real things because of that.

They did but they couldn't cancel as there were assembled in Gordon Brown's constituency and 5000+ would have lost their jobs. Plus it would have stoked the Scottish independence fire. The UK's MoD learning to spread work around like the Pentagon to reduce the risk of cancellations.

If they don't have enough destroyers and frigates to support two carriers I would think the sensible thing to do would be to cancel one of the carriers and then use the workforce then freed up and the funding then freed up to build more destroyers and frigates to better support the one carrier you do have and also create more surface ships to allow more jobs around the place to be dealt with with the extra ships.

No need for anyone to lose their jobs... but continue with the extra carrier support stuff which could then be also used by the existing carrier so it has more support resources than it was intended to have.

So USA wants to contain Russia, UK the Chinese and what about France??