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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  franco on Sat Aug 15, 2015 12:35 am

    K-52 in the Far East;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1432337.html
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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  franco on Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:57 pm

    Some nice shots of the weapons on the K-52;
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1433191.html

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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  AttilaA on Tue Aug 25, 2015 3:56 pm

    Apparently the export contract for Ka-52 is with Egypt.

    http://alexeyvvo.livejournal.com/135596.html
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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Werewolf on Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:15 pm

    AttilaA wrote:Apparently the export contract for Ka-52 is with Egypt.

    http://alexeyvvo.livejournal.com/135596.html

    So by todays exchange rate of USD and RUB it would mean that 1x GOES-451 costs 1.45 mln USD, quite expensive but cheaper now.



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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Werewolf on Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:21 am


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    The General suggested that in these circumstances it is necessary to modernize air defense facility, one of the important elements which could use the helicopter-interceptor. The task of such a machine would be a rapid response to emerging threat posed by "unconventional" means of air attack and destruction purposes, the use for which anti-aircraft missile systems and fighters unreasonably or technically impossible.

    In this capacity, the Kamov design Bureau has proposed to use the fighter Ka-50. The interceptor was supposed to equip exclusively mass-produced systems. As a means of detecting air targets had to be set radar "Spear", was developed and implemented in a series of OJSC "Fazotron-NIIR", and opto-electronic sighting system of JSC "Geophysics-ART", similar to that installed on various versions of su-27 fighters. As a means of destruction was proposed to use guided missiles R-77 class "air–air", launchers of MANPADS "Igla" and promising multipurpose complex guided weapons "Hermes" Tula design Bureau. Helicopter-interceptor using a 30-mm gun 2A42 could effectively deal with "unconventional" means of air attack, to which S. V. Mikheev attributed primarily UAVs, light aircraft, gliders and trikes.

    The letter focuses attention was drawn to the fact that the new complex "Shark" is built on the open architecture that allowed relatively easy to integrate helicopter-interceptor in a single information field of antiaircraft defense of the country. This ensured the smooth rise and output to a district meeting for the purpose of helicopter-interceptor, and, consequently, reduced the reaction time of the defense to the emerging air threat. An important factor was the possibility of interfacing avionics Ka-50 with a flow of information from aircraft airborne early warning And-50 and held while testing radar picket helicopters Ka-35.
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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  medo on Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:47 pm

    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/69509/

    ИЖЕВСК, 23 октября. /Корр. ТАСС Евгения Самуськова/. Концерн «Калашников» поставил Минобороны РФ первую партию управляемых ракет «Вихрь-1», сообщили в пятницу в пресс-службе предприятия.

    «На сегодняшний день концерн „Калашников“ уже приступил к серийной сборке изделий, и исполнение обязательств по госконтракту на изготовление и поставку управляемых ракет „Вихрь-1“ для нужд Минобороны РФ не вызывает никаких опасений. Первая партия ракет уже успешно поставлена государственному заказчику», — заявил гендиректор концерна Алексей Криворучко, чьи слова привели в пресс-службе.

    Concern Kalashnikov deliver the first batch of Vikhr-1 missiles to Russian MoD according to contract. Ka-52 is finally getting its main armament. Maybe Vikhr-1 missiles will also find their use in Su-25SM3/UBM equipped with new SOLT targeting complex.
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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  George1 on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:36 pm

    2 new Ka-52 delivered in Eastern Military District

    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=3&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20151124/1327311686.html&usg=ALkJrhjfe7cg2EHuL-iio8ocxHzENPCMuQ


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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  George1 on Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:24 pm

    Rogozin promised to double the release of Ka-52
    Russian Aviaton » Friday December 18, 2015 16:01 MSK

    Annual production of attack helicopters Ka-52 “Alligator” will double by 2017 taking into account the release version of the machine for naval aviation. This was stated by Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said RIA Novosti .

    “Today we got acquainted with the progress of work on the ship version of our armored combat helicopter Ka-52. That was – made four helicopters in the framework of development work for our “Mistral” but we’re still going to do helicopter but at its shipyards. Therefore by 2017 production volume will increase up to 50 helicopters per year – in fact this doubling of production ” – said Rogozin.

    The factory “Progress” in Arsenyev (Primorye) which is produced helicopter Ka-52 received in 2011 a contract with the Ministry of Defense of 140 billion rubles for the supply of 143 units for the needs of the Air Force in 2020. To this must be added contract for 32 Ka-52K “Katran” deck version of the Ka-52 which was planned to be used on the amphibious assault ship of the “Mistral” and that with a high probability of be transferred Egypt who bought these ships. Egypt also ordered in 2015 an additional 50 helicopters Ka-52 in the standard version.

    According to the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies in the period from 2008 to 2011 it was collected in Arsenyev 26 Ka-52 helicopters 2 of them experienced. In 2012 and 2013 the plant gave the Air Force for 21 helicopters in 2014 – 10 helicopters. In 2015 plan Ministry of Defense to supply – 16 units.


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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  franco on Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:09 pm

    According to the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies in the period from 2008 to 2011 it was collected in Arsenyev 26 Ka-52 helicopters 2 of them experienced. In 2012 and 2013 the plant gave the Air Force for 21 helicopters in 2014 – 10 helicopters. In 2015 plan Ministry of Defense to supply – 16 units.


    That total of 26 aircraft from 2008-2011 would have to include the Ka-50's according to this blog's count;

    http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-572.html
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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  George1 on Sat Jan 16, 2016 2:03 am

    It is reported that combat helicopters Ka-52 will be transferred to Syria

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1680951.html


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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Cyrus the great on Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:28 pm

    I just read up on the Arbalet radar and it seems to be superior to the Longbow in every way except for the number of targets that it can detect. The Arbalet detects only 20 targets simultaneously.  The Longbow can apparently detect 256 targets. The Arbalet has longer range and better resolution.


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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  medo on Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:48 pm

    Cyrus the great wrote:
    I just read up on the Arbalet radar and it seems to be superior to the Longbow in every way except for the number of targets that it can detect. The Arbalets detects only 20 targets simultaneously.  The Longbow can apparently detect 256 targets. The Arbalet has longer range and better resolution.  

    Arbalet tracks 20 targets simultaneously. This is more than enough as Ka-52 doesn't have enough armament to engage this number of targets.
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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Isos on Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:33 pm

    Cyrus the great wrote:
    I just read up on the Arbalet radar and it seems to be superior to the Longbow in every way except for the number of targets that it can detect. The Arbalets detects only 20 targets simultaneously.  The Longbow can apparently detect 256 targets. The Arbalet has longer range and better resolution.  


    scratch Are you sur for the Longbow ? 256 is way too much for a helicopter radar. It's the level of a ground based big radar.

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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Cyrus the great on Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:35 pm

    medo wrote:
    Cyrus the great wrote:
    I just read up on the Arbalet radar and it seems to be superior to the Longbow in every way except for the number of targets that it can detect. The Arbalets detects only 20 targets simultaneously.  The Longbow can apparently detect 256 targets. The Arbalet has longer range and better resolution.  

    Arbalet tracks 20 targets simultaneously. This is more than enough as Ka-52 doesn't have enough armament to engage this number of targets.

    I would agree, but having a full picture of the battlefield would be preferable. The Russians can increase the detection capability of this radar. There are small AESA radars that can detect 1,000 targets.

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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Cyrus the great on Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:39 pm

    Isos wrote:
    Cyrus the great wrote:
    I just read up on the Arbalet radar and it seems to be superior to the Longbow in every way except for the number of targets that it can detect. The Arbalets detects only 20 targets simultaneously.  The Longbow can apparently detect 256 targets. The Arbalet has longer range and better resolution.  


    scratch Are you sur for the Longbow ? 256 is way too much for a helicopter radar. It's the level of a ground based big radar.

    That's what I read from multiple sources. The Israelis have a 50 kg radar that can apparently detect 1,000 targets, so it's possible.
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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  x_54_u43 on Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:10 pm

    It is 128 targets, but it prioritizes the top 16, also Longbow is 360 degrees while Arbalet only covers the front hemisphere at best.

    I would take the Arbalet any day...Especially with the rest of the Ka-52s systems.
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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Militarov on Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:19 pm

    Isos wrote:
    Cyrus the great wrote:
    I just read up on the Arbalet radar and it seems to be superior to the Longbow in every way except for the number of targets that it can detect. The Arbalets detects only 20 targets simultaneously.  The Longbow can apparently detect 256 targets. The Arbalet has longer range and better resolution.  


    scratch Are you sur for the Longbow ? 256 is way too much for a helicopter radar. It's the level of a ground based big radar.

    Its 128 i belive, but it also determines 30(ish? dont rly recall exact number, i guess it could be 32) most dangerous targets and allows you to attack 16 of them at the same time.

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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Cyrus the great on Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:34 am

    Militarov wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    Cyrus the great wrote:
    I just read up on the Arbalet radar and it seems to be superior to the Longbow in every way except for the number of targets that it can detect. The Arbalets detects only 20 targets simultaneously.  The Longbow can apparently detect 256 targets. The Arbalet has longer range and better resolution.  


    scratch Are you sur for the Longbow ? 256 is way too much for a helicopter radar. It's the level of a ground based big radar.

    Its 128 i belive, but it also determines 30(ish? dont rly recall exact number, i guess it could be 32) most dangerous targets and allows you to attack 16 of them at the same time.

    I've come across that figure as well, but Lockheed Martin itself claims that the Longbow radar can detect 256 targets simultaneously. Source: http://www.lockheedmartin.com.au/uk/what-we-do/products/LONGBOWFCRandLONGBOWHELLFIREMissile.html

    x_54_u43 wrote:It is 128 targets, but it prioritizes the top 16, also Longbow is 360 degrees while Arbalet only covers the front hemisphere at best.

    I would take the Arbalet any day...Especially with the rest of the Ka-52s systems.

    I was under the impression that the Arbalet radar was mast mounted -- without any restrictions in azimuth and elevation. I just wonder what affect coaxial rotors would have on the performance of a mast mounted radar.
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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:03 am

    Cyrus the great wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    Cyrus the great wrote:
    I just read up on the Arbalet radar and it seems to be superior to the Longbow in every way except for the number of targets that it can detect. The Arbalets detects only 20 targets simultaneously.  The Longbow can apparently detect 256 targets. The Arbalet has longer range and better resolution.  


    scratch Are you sur for the Longbow ? 256 is way too much for a helicopter radar. It's the level of a ground based big radar.

    Its 128 i belive, but it also determines 30(ish? dont rly recall exact number, i guess it could be 32) most dangerous targets and allows you to attack 16 of them at the same time.

    I've come across that figure as well, but Lockheed Martin itself claims that the Longbow radar can detect 256 targets simultaneously. Source: http://www.lockheedmartin.com.au/uk/what-we-do/products/LONGBOWFCRandLONGBOWHELLFIREMissile.html

    x_54_u43 wrote:It is 128 targets, but it prioritizes the top 16, also Longbow is 360 degrees while Arbalet only covers the front hemisphere at best.

    I would take the Arbalet any day...Especially with the rest of the Ka-52s systems.

    I was under the impression that the Arbalet radar was mast mounted -- without any restrictions in azimuth and elevation. I just wonder what affect coaxial rotors would have on the performance of a mast mounted radar.

    It makes more sense to place the radars on the side and rear of the helicopter body.
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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  medo on Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:49 am

    Cyrus the great wrote:
    medo wrote:
    Cyrus the great wrote:
    I just read up on the Arbalet radar and it seems to be superior to the Longbow in every way except for the number of targets that it can detect. The Arbalets detects only 20 targets simultaneously.  The Longbow can apparently detect 256 targets. The Arbalet has longer range and better resolution.  

    Arbalet tracks 20 targets simultaneously. This is more than enough as Ka-52 doesn't have enough armament to engage this number of targets.

    I would agree,  but having a full picture of the battlefield would be preferable. The Russians can increase the detection capability of this radar. There are small AESA radars that can detect 1,000 targets.

    Detecting and tracking targets are not the same thing. You could detect 100 targets, but simultaneously tracking 20 targets is a different capabilities. How many targets could simultaneously track Longbow radar?

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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Cyrus the great on Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:12 pm

    medo wrote:
    Cyrus the great wrote:
    medo wrote:
    Cyrus the great wrote:
    I just read up on the Arbalet radar and it seems to be superior to the Longbow in every way except for the number of targets that it can detect. The Arbalets detects only 20 targets simultaneously.  The Longbow can apparently detect 256 targets. The Arbalet has longer range and better resolution.  

    Arbalet tracks 20 targets simultaneously. This is more than enough as Ka-52 doesn't have enough armament to engage this number of targets.

    I would agree,  but having a full picture of the battlefield would be preferable. The Russians can increase the detection capability of this radar. There are small AESA radars that can detect 1,000 targets.

    Detecting and tracking targets are not the same thing. You could detect 100 targets, but simultaneously tracking 20 targets is a different capabilities. How many targets could simultaneously track Longbow radar?

    The Longbow radar can detect, simultaneously track 256 targets, prioritize the most dangerous and initiate a concerted attack with other Apaches in as little as one minute. If the Arbalet radar is limited in azimuth and elevation, then the Longbow is superior for the moment.

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    Why and how is a side or rear mounted radar superior to a mast mounted radar?
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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Feb 16, 2016 6:27 pm

    Cyrus the great wrote:
    medo wrote:
    Cyrus the great wrote:
    medo wrote:
    Cyrus the great wrote:
    I just read up on the Arbalet radar and it seems to be superior to the Longbow in every way except for the number of targets that it can detect. The Arbalets detects only 20 targets simultaneously.  The Longbow can apparently detect 256 targets. The Arbalet has longer range and better resolution.  

    Arbalet tracks 20 targets simultaneously. This is more than enough as Ka-52 doesn't have enough armament to engage this number of targets.

    I would agree,  but having a full picture of the battlefield would be preferable. The Russians can increase the detection capability of this radar. There are small AESA radars that can detect 1,000 targets.

    Detecting and tracking targets are not the same thing. You could detect 100 targets, but simultaneously tracking 20 targets is a different capabilities. How many targets could simultaneously track Longbow radar?

    The Longbow radar can detect,  simultaneously track 256 targets,  prioritize the most dangerous and initiate a concerted attack with other Apaches in as little as one minute. If the Arbalet radar is limited in azimuth and elevation,  then the Longbow is superior for the moment.

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    Why and how is a side or rear mounted radar superior to a mast mounted radar?

    Because you won't have to put unnecessary strain on the coaxial rotors.

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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Mindstorm on Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:22 pm


    From the mouth of the designer......



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    Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Cyrus the great on Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:27 pm

    How do Russia's tactical data-links compare with NATO's Link 16 and Link 22? And how do Russian mission computers compare? The AH-64E Guardian has a new mission computer with a 48 core processor -- with future growth to 80 cores. The 48 core mission computer is impressive, consuming just 25 watts. The commercial Tilera 100 core processor consumes 55 watts. I can't wait to see the kind of mission computer that will be incorporated into the Armata and other Russian platforms.

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