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    Post  George1 Thu May 29, 2014 8:54 pm

    According to wikipedia page Russian commando frogmen number about 800 men.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_commando_frogmen
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    Post  George1 Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:59 am

    Some equipment of Russian commando frogmen

    IDA71 military and naval rebreather

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    APS underwater rifle

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    Protei-5 Russian diver propulsion vehicle


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    Post  Werewolf Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:37 pm

    Cool pics thanks for posting.
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    Post  George1 Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:53 pm

    Wetsuit "Amphora" make underwater invisible naval commandos

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    Post  George1 Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:39 pm

    Unveiling of Russian Rifle-Amphibious ADS to Be Held at IDEX-2015

    Scientific and Production Association “High-Precision Complexes” for the first time will present overseas a rifle for naval commandos ADS at the Defence Industry Exhibition IDEX-2015, which will be held from 22 to 26 February 2015 in Abu Dhabi (United Arab Emirates), the press service of Scientific and Production Association told reporters on Friday.

    According to the report, due to its unique performance characteristics, ADS is the first rifle in the world, capable of firing equally effective both in water and on land.

    “The purpose of the development of the machine was to replace the APS rifle (automatic underwater special) as a combat weapon of special units of the Russian Navy. On land the shooting of a machine gun is effectuated by the caliber 5.45×39 and using the underbarrel grenade launcher with VOG-25 and VOG- 25P. Underwater the fire is effectuated with new cartridges designed specifically for ADS,” was said in a statement.

    https://rostechnologiesblog.wordpress.com/2015/02/02/unveiling-of-russian-rifle-amphibious-ads-to-be-held-at-idex-2015/
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    Post  GarryB Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:14 am

    Cool... but they said the ADS was adopted this year by the naval infantry and some units of the VDV...

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    Post  George1 Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:17 am

    State tests of the underwater vehicle "Marlin 350"

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    Post  Cyberspec Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:47 am

    Project 21310 "Triton-NN"
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    Very little info on this vessel apart from a few bits and pieces. The tender for a submersible speed boat was back in 2000. It's likely only one sample was produced for tests, although the Swedes reported it's "presence" in the Swedish archipelago in Oct 2014 (report was never confirmed after a media frenzy). The Triton-NN reportedly has 3 modes of operation:

    1. above surface as normal speed boat
    2. semi-submerged
    3. fully submerged.

    More pics and info (rus):

    Arrow http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1271455.html

    Arrow http://www.deepstorm.ru/DeepStorm.files/on_1992/21310/list.htm
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    Post  George1 Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:25 am

    Russian Frogmen Hold Training in Country's Far East

    Fully-equipped frogmen practiced one-on-one and group combat, as well as live fire.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Russian frogmen from the Pacific Fleet have conducted two days of military tactical live fire drills on the Kamchatka Peninsula, the Russian Defense Ministry’s Eastern Military District’s press service said Friday.

    “On the first stage of exercises, the fully-equipped frogmen completed exercises underwater at different times of the day and used cold weapons in one-on-one combat as well as in groups,” the press service said in a statement.

    Live fire drills were also employed.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150424/1021314598.html#ixzz3YDGbl4DL
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    Post  George1 Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:09 pm

    Russian Navy Creates Spetsnaz Units to Hunt for Enemy Saboteurs

    Two special units are being created as a part of Russia's Naval Fleet which are designed to detect the enemy saboteurs in Russia's coastal and littoral waters as well as undertake reconnaissance in an enemy-controlled territory, izvestia.ru reported.

    The newly created military units are being equipped with "Raptor" boats which can be used during the storm and develop speed up to 80 km/h. The soldiers will also use unmanned flying machines "Tachyon" which can detect the enemy at the depth of several meters.

    "There are two new units being created now. One in the Pacific, the second in Crimea," a representative of the Russian Defense Ministry told the newspaper.

    According to the spokesman, both squads are experimental, with their main task being to protect the coast from the enemy sabotage and deploy reconnaissance groups in an enemy-controlled territory.

    As director of the Center for Strategic Study Ivan Konovalov told the newspaper, coastal and littoral waters have long been actively used by special forces around the world.

    "To protect the entire coast is very difficult, so it is quite convenient to deploy unnoticed reconnaissance and sabotage groups to the territory controlled by the enemy and raid its coastal facilities," Konovalov said.

    According to the expert, there are three similar groups in the US Navy equipped with special boats for operations in coastal and littoral zones. The UK armed forces also have so called SBS boat groups (Special Boat Service) which operate at the shore and undertake covert reconnaissance, intelligence gathering and other activities.

    http://sputniknews.com/military/20160725/1043591417/russian-navy-spetsnaz.html
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    Post  franco Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:26 pm

    Kalashnikov Begins Delivery of Assault Landing Boats to Russian Forces

    Kalashnikov Concern, part of the state corporation Rostec, began serial deliveries of assault landing boats for the special forces of the Russian Defense Ministry, according to official statement.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Russia’s famed small arms maker, the Kalashnikov Concern, which is actively expanding into new market segments, on Wednesday began it first deliveries of the BK-10 assault landing boat and the BK-16 multipurpose amphibious boat to Russia's Special Purpose Military Units (Spetsnaz).

    The multipurpose amphibious assault boats, developed by the concern's subsidiary — "Rybinsk Shipyard" —  were showcased for the first time at the International Maritime Defense Show in St. Petersburg in July 2015.

    "Kalashnikov Concern, part of the state corporation Rostec, began serial deliveries of assault landing boats for the special forces of the Russian Defense Ministry," the statement reads.

    The boats can reach speeds of up to 40 knots (about 46 mph) and have a cruising range of some 400 nautical miles. According to the manufacturer, their technical characteristics and equipment are on a par with foreign competitor while their price is much lower.

    http://sputniknews.com/military/20160706/1042507806/kalashnikov-boats-spetsnaz.html

    The BK-16 appears to be just a slightly smaller version of the Raptor.
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    Post  Guest Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:41 pm

    Seems RuNAV "specnaz" part of Naval infantry is using French Aqualung FROGS "closed-circle" rebreathers:

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    Product itself: http://www.aqualung.com/militaryandprofessional/product_information/FROGS.pdf
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:32 pm

    Militarov wrote:Seems RuNAV "specnaz" part of Naval infantry is using French Aqualung FROGS "closed-circle" rebreathers:

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    Product itself: http://www.aqualung.com/militaryandprofessional/product_information/FROGS.pdf

    Actually Amphora...from same company.
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    Post  George1 Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:03 am

    The work of Russian combat swimmers in Syria, guarding the ships of the Navy in the port and on the roads of Tartus, continues the practice of using naval special forces in the USSR to protect domestic shipping and warships in dangerous waters. About this Lente.ru reported a source in the Russian law enforcement agencies.

    According to the press, all categories of combat swimmers work in Tartus: miners, engineers, scouts. They work out a whole range of activities, ranging from anti-sabotage and mine clearance to ships, ending with the exploration of the most convenient places on the coast, where enemy combat swimmers can land.

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    Post  George1 Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:09 pm

    Russian Navy frogman w/underwater SPP-1 pistol & APS rifle on-board a ship, assumingly in Tartus, Syria or in the Med.

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    https://twitter.com/Russian_Defence/status/925322176055607296
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    Post  George1 Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:21 pm

    New "coastal" spetsnaz unit formed on the basis of Caspian Flotilla (KF) counter-sabotage unit (prob.137 OSpNB PDSS)

    https://iz.ru/644392/aleksei-ramm-evgenii-dmitriev/na-kaspii-sformirovali-pribrezhnyi-spetcnaz
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    Post  George1 Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:12 pm

    DA-21 (left) and DA-21 Mk1 re-breather by State Marine Technical University of St. Petersburg and Russian company Oceanos and of course ADS amphibious rifle by Tula armorers.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:38 am

    I should point out that the ADS rifle shown in a few videos above is better than the APS because the APS can only fire very long projectile rounds that only work effectively underwater.

    This means that when using the APS you also need a conventional AK for use above the water, while the SPS-1 four shot derenger type pistol as shown in the video above is also designed to be effective under water a normal weapon loadout for naval spetsnaz that might approach a port via water but then engage targets in the port and then leave via the water needs five firearms... a Makarov pistol and AK-74 perhaps with a GP-30 under barrel grenade launcher for use in the port above water, and an SPS-1 pistol and APS rifle for use underwater, the current diver can use the ADS which has a built in 40mm grenade launcher and can use standard 5.45mm ammo above water and special underwater ammo for firing underwater, into water or out of water, while the GSh18 pistol can fire 9x19mm underwater ammo similar to that developed for the 5.45mm rifle.

    This means not needing a spare pistol and a spare rifle for underwater use, but also meaning standard magazines can be used for all ammo, because the underwater weapons had different non standard ammo types that were not compatible with standard magazines.

    The ADS is probably more accurate than the Ak-74 and the GSh-18 is certainly better than the Makarov, though they might be using a newer pistol by now like the Udav...
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    Post  George1 Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:38 am

    Firing from a special underwater weapon - an SPP-1 pistol and an APS submachine gun - is practiced by soldiers of the PDSS detachment in Kamchatka.

    During the lesson, the combat swimmers also examined the underwater part of ships, ships and berthing facilities for possible laying of mines and explosive devices, and also practiced underwater combat using edged weapons.

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    Post  franco Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:31 pm

    From Marines to Frog People

    Counter-sabotage forces are deployed at all Russian naval bases. The combat swimmers are part of all four fleets and the Caspian military flotilla. In the Syrian Arab Republic, for example, the PDSS is responsible for the underwater and coastal protection of the logistics center in Tartous. But few people know what the underwater special forces are armed with today, what are its capabilities and tasks.

    Demand for frogmen

    Despite the presence of underwater special forces, in 2020 alone, the Marine Corps Training Center, structurally part of the Joint Training Center of the Russian Navy and located in St. Petersburg, trained about 600 marines to perform tasks as part of anti-terror groups. In fact, this can be qualified as attracting the Marines to specific tasks that were previously solved only by "frog people" - combat swimmers.

    The need for such groups on board ships and vessels of the Russian Navy, performing combat missions in the distant sea and ocean zone, did not arise by chance. Today, terrorist methods are being incorporated into the basis of their defense concepts by the states that are members of the NATO bloc.

    Following the definitions of the defense departments of the countries of the North Atlantic Alliance, the concept of "asymmetric warfare" implies fighting between adversaries, in whose military forces there is a significant imbalance. It is these strategies and tactics that have been adopted by the Finnish special forces, which are being trained in Utti, as well as by the special operations forces of Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia and Poland.
    Sharp "Tachyon"

    One cannot do without the latest examples of anti-sabotage technology when solving such complex problems. Equipping combat swimmers with boats of the "Grachonok" and "Raptor" type, capable of speeds up to 80 kilometers per hour and operating in storms, is a serious help for the quick delivery of special forces.

    Another innovation is the flying drones of the Tachyon project, which detect enemy combat swimmers at a depth of several meters, being above the sea surface. "It is almost impossible to find a special container while moving and in the process of work. And the crew of the combat swimmers serving the system can impersonate dock handlers - the smart guys are selected "

    Recently, another novelty has entered service with the Russian Navy - the DIABAS hydroacoustic anti-sabotage system. The complex consists of hydrophones (underwater microphones) and a standard container for their storage.

    The container is disguised as a regular cargo container, but it also has workplaces for operators monitoring the operational situation. Highly sensitive underwater microphones are installed at the bottom and on the quays. They find combat swimmers and underwater drones by recognizing them by sound.

    The system is completely mobile. The container is loaded onto a truck and transported to the designated area. It is almost impossible to detect it while moving and in the process of work. And the crew of the combat swimmers serving the system can impersonate dock handlers - the smart guys are selected.

    Acting for a combat swimmer is just one of the professional skills of a special forces soldier, where surprise, cunning and ingenuity play a big role.

    Our divers are tasked with protecting ships from both sea and land. Combat swimmers are formed from contract servicemen. All sailors and officers pass the most careful selection, tests for endurance, orientation on the ground, the ability to overcome psychological stress.

    So impeccable health is not the only ticket to this elite division. The advanced training course includes diving, parachute, topographic, assault, engineering and mountain training. It is combined with the simulation of force majeure situations. Such, for example, as a faulty rebreather at depth or spending the night in a cemetery during a march.

    The main task of combat swimmers is to find their “counterparts”: to catch enemy underwater saboteurs who threaten warships, coastal installations of our naval bases, including remote ones, as well as military garrisons.

    Sometimes combat swimmers also perform specific tasks to prevent enemy scouts from penetrating sunken submarines in order to reveal defensive secrets.

    Duel underwater

    The underwater special forces are armed with special small arms automatic weapons, which are intended for use not only on land, but also under water.

    These are two-medium APS submachine guns and SPP-1 pistols. Back in the USSR, a special cartridge with a needle-type bullet was developed for the APS assault rifle, effectively striking targets at depth. However, on land, the APS is not as effective. It will soon be replaced by a new ADS with a bullpup layout (when the trigger is in front of the clip). It surpasses the APS in accuracy of fire both in the air and under water. On land, he shoots special cartridges of 5.45x39 mm caliber - you just need to change the magazine.

    The swimmers also have a special anti-sabotage grenade launcher DP-61 "Duel", which also allows you to destroy saboteurs under water.

    Complex training simulators for training submarine special forces operate at the fleet bases. They simulate pressure at depth, as well as deep currents and even coastal mountain slopes. Divers undergo mountain and anti-piracy training. However, the training of operational-tactical tasks on the simulator is necessarily combined with practice at training grounds and in the water area of ​​ports.

    An important component of training is to acquire skills in sabotage work against enemy ships. A small group in numerical strength can cause significant damage to the enemy, in the shortest possible time, literally and figuratively undermining his political, economic and military potential.

    Get it everywhere

    The Russian military department, analyzing NATO's tactics, has developed a special training program to train marines for long-term service as part of anti-terrorist groups on ships performing the task of a naval presence in various regions of the World Ocean. Its implementation took time.

    The program is exclusive and includes the study of the structure, technical means and weapons of Russian warships of all ranks and classes by the marines: they must know the structure of the ship that is being protected from sabotage, the location of combat and information posts, vulnerabilities, routes of movement along the hull from deck to hold and from bow to stern.

    Particular attention is paid to the study of students of International Maritime Law on the development of practical actions on ships in the conduct of all types of protection and defense. At the forefront are the tactics of actions in the composition of inspection teams and the development of methods of disembarkation on ships when solving anti-piracy problems.

    Shooting from standard small arms at surface targets for the Marines is a familiar job. But in the conditions of a limited space of internal premises (compartments, corridors, vestibules) of ships and vessels, preparation for firing requires different skills. Any "skerry" can become a shelter for a terrorist.

    The program was developed in accordance with the instructions of the commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Nikolai Evmenov. The training process for the Marines is based on the experience gained in the course of actions against terrorists in Syria.

    The level of training passed at the Joint Training Center of the Russian Navy allowed marines from all naval fleets to acquire practical knowledge that is indispensable for countering terrorists and saboteurs.

    For several years now, Marines in anti-terror groups have already been on board every warship or support vessel of the Russian Navy, performing tasks at a distance from their permanent bases.

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    Post  George1 Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:19 am

    Size 480–800 OMRP; 650–780 PDSS
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    Naval Special Reconnaissance (OMRP):
    The first Naval Special Reconnaissance unit, the 42nd OMRP is composed of reconnaissance divers that fall under operational subordination to the Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU). There are now four OMRPs in Russia, one for each fleet: Northern Fleet, Baltic Fleet, Black Sea Fleet, Pacific Ocean Fleet, each consisting of 120–200 personnel.
    Naval Special Reconnaissance (OMRP)
    42nd Marine Reconnaissance point (Pacific Fleet)
    388th Marine Reconnaissance point (Black Sea Fleet) - reorganized from the former 431st MRP
    420th Marine Reconnaissance point (Northern Fleet)
    561st Marine Reconnaissance point (Baltic Fleet)
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    Counteraction Underwater Diversionary Forces and Facilities (PDSS)
    PDSS are special purpose (spetsnaz) unit of the Russian Navy, trained to conduct land and sea operations behind enemy lines, and to conduct underwater combat, mining and clearance diving. These units include combat swimmers tasked to protect ships and other fleet assets from enemy underwater special forces. The precise composition, activities and location of the unit are strictly classified.
    Every PDSS unit has approximately 50–60 combat swimmers.
    101st PDSS Detachment - based in Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky
    102nd PDSS Detachment - based in Sevastopol
    136th PDSS Detachment - based in Novorossiysk
    137th PDSS Detachment - based in Makhachkala
    140th PDSS Detachment - based in Vidyayevo
    152nd PDSS Detachment - based in Polyarny, Murmansk Oblast
    153rd PDSS Detachment - based in Ostrovnoy, Murmansk Oblast
    159th PDSS Detachment - based in Razboynik
    160th PDSS Detachment - based in Murmansk
    269th PDSS Detachment - based in Gadzhiyevo
    311th PDSS Detachment - based in Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky
    313rd PDSS Detachment - based in Baltiysk
    473rd PDSS Detachment - based in Kronstadt

    Documentary about Russian Combat Divers in Russian (2016):


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    Post  franco Sat Aug 21, 2021 2:38 am

    George, where did you come up with this?

    "Size 480–800 OMRP; 650–780 PDSS"

    Are these overall totals or unit sizes?
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    Post  George1 Sat Aug 21, 2021 2:57 am

    franco wrote:George, where did you come up with this?

    "Size 480–800 OMRP; 650–780 PDSS"

    Are these overall totals or unit sizes?

    i think overall

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    Post  franco Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:12 am

    From what I have gathered over time the OMRP's include 2 companies of spetsnaz and 1 company of combat divers.

    The PDSS size varies depending upon how big a naval base they are guarding and includes combat divers for underwater, a surface craft detachment including 21980, 03160 and high speed zodiac type craft plus a security unit for guard, patrol and reaction forces. A naval base may have 1-2 separate docks to 5-6 docks.

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