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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  ali.a.r on Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:00 pm

    Do the Russian naval infantry or naval spetsnaz guys or anyone else use ekranoplans, like the A-90?
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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  GarryB on Sun Sep 30, 2012 1:23 am

    Do the Russian naval infantry or naval spetsnaz guys or anyone else use ekranoplans, like the A-90?

    Not AFAIK.

    There were plans for using them as troop transports, and as anti ship missile carriers, but work ended a while ago.

    More recently there has been some renewed interest but it is early days yet.


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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  George1 on Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:06 am

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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  George1 on Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:56 am

    Russian Commandos to Adopt New Underwater Assault Rifles

    MOSCOW, October 22 (RIA Novosti) – Russia’s army is set to adopt a new assault rifle that performs effectively both on the ground and underwater.

    The ADS assault rifle, currently being showcased by the Tula-based KBP design bureau at the Interpolitex 2013 arms show in Moscow, can fire standard-issue 5.45-mm cartridges when above the water with accuracy and effectiveness similar to that of AK-74s.

    When submerged and loaded with special 5.45-mm PSP ammunition, the ADS outperforms the service-issue, Soviet-designed APS underwater assault rifle in terms of accuracy and ease of handling.

    The new rifle is fitted with an integral 40-mm grenade launcher and adjustable iron sights. Its carrying handle is provided with a bracket to mount various types of optical sights.

    “These rifles will soon enter service with special combat units of the Russian army,” a spokesman for KBP design bureau said Tuesday.

    For several decades, Soviet and later Russian combat divers and naval commando units were armed with special weapons for underwater combat. These included the SPP-1 pistol and APS underwater assault rifle, which performed poorly on the surface.

    The ADS proved its effectiveness and reliability during extensive field trials by Russian naval commando units, according to a KBP design bureau official.

    It will replace APS underwater weapons and, possibly, some AK-74M general issue assault rifles in service with Russian special forces units.

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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  Vann7 on Sat Oct 26, 2013 5:04 pm

    Navy spetsnaz new toy.. with video...

    "Russian arms manufacturers have unveiled a new technological marvel – the world’s first ever assault rifle capable of
    shooting standard size cartridges both underwater and on land."


    http://rt.com/news/underwater-gun-russia-debut-627/

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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  Cpt Caz on Sat Oct 26, 2013 5:40 pm

    Can anybody more knowledgeable on firearms than I explain to me the reason behind the placement of the fire selector on the ADS? It just seems really awkward compared to the selector on other bullpup rifles like the ASh-12.7 which can be manipulated with a quick flick of the index finger.





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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  GarryB on Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:04 am




    Most of the time you don't change from full auto to semi or back very often... for the vast majority of the time you will fire single shot, with certain times when burst fire is needed.

    The trigger clearly has a built in safety so the lever above the magazine well is only for selecting semi or full auto. The positioning likely allows simpler internal design... having the trigger and pistol grip forward of the magazine means a long connector bar from the trigger to where the hammer is... to have the fire selector forward of where the actual mechanism is would require more extension bars. Where it is located it likely just blocks the auxiliary sear (a hook that holds the hammer back after the first shot to stop the weapon firing). If the auxiliary sear is not blocked then the weapon will continue to fire till the ammo is all gone. If it is blocked the trigger needs to be released and then pulled again to fire repeat shots.


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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  Cpt Caz on Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:12 pm

    Thanks for the answer Garry.
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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  George1 on Thu May 29, 2014 8:54 pm

    According to wikipedia page Russian commando frogmen number about 800 men.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_commando_frogmen
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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  George1 on Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:28 pm

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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  George1 on Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:59 am

    Some equipment of Russian commando frogmen

    IDA71 military and naval rebreather






    APS underwater rifle






    Protei-5 Russian diver propulsion vehicle


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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  Werewolf on Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:37 pm

    Cool pics thanks for posting.
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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  George1 on Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:53 pm

    Wetsuit "Amphora" make underwater invisible naval commandos
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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  George1 on Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:39 pm

    Unveiling of Russian Rifle-Amphibious ADS to Be Held at IDEX-2015

    Scientific and Production Association “High-Precision Complexes” for the first time will present overseas a rifle for naval commandos ADS at the Defence Industry Exhibition IDEX-2015, which will be held from 22 to 26 February 2015 in Abu Dhabi (United Arab Emirates), the press service of Scientific and Production Association told reporters on Friday.

    According to the report, due to its unique performance characteristics, ADS is the first rifle in the world, capable of firing equally effective both in water and on land.

    “The purpose of the development of the machine was to replace the APS rifle (automatic underwater special) as a combat weapon of special units of the Russian Navy. On land the shooting of a machine gun is effectuated by the caliber 5.45×39 and using the underbarrel grenade launcher with VOG-25 and VOG- 25P. Underwater the fire is effectuated with new cartridges designed specifically for ADS,” was said in a statement.

    https://rostechnologiesblog.wordpress.com/2015/02/02/unveiling-of-russian-rifle-amphibious-ads-to-be-held-at-idex-2015/
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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  GarryB on Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:14 am

    Cool... but they said the ADS was adopted this year by the naval infantry and some units of the VDV...



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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  Cyberspec on Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:47 am

    Project 21310 "Triton-NN"
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    Very little info on this vessel apart from a few bits and pieces. The tender for a submersible speed boat was back in 2000. It's likely only one sample was produced for tests, although the Swedes reported it's "presence" in the Swedish archipelago in Oct 2014 (report was never confirmed after a media frenzy). The Triton-NN reportedly has 3 modes of operation:

    1. above surface as normal speed boat
    2. semi-submerged
    3. fully submerged.

    More pics and info (rus):

    Arrow http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1271455.html

    Arrow http://www.deepstorm.ru/DeepStorm.files/on_1992/21310/list.htm
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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  George1 on Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:25 am

    Russian Frogmen Hold Training in Country's Far East

    Fully-equipped frogmen practiced one-on-one and group combat, as well as live fire.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Russian frogmen from the Pacific Fleet have conducted two days of military tactical live fire drills on the Kamchatka Peninsula, the Russian Defense Ministry’s Eastern Military District’s press service said Friday.

    “On the first stage of exercises, the fully-equipped frogmen completed exercises underwater at different times of the day and used cold weapons in one-on-one combat as well as in groups,” the press service said in a statement.

    Live fire drills were also employed.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150424/1021314598.html#ixzz3YDGbl4DL
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    frogman sub

    Post  Book. on Sun Jul 12, 2015 6:06 pm

    Russia bringing back Cold War mini-subs, report says
    By James RogersPublished July 11, 2015


    Russia is reportedly bringing back a fleet of Cold War-era mini-submarines, a move that could ramp up tensions with the West.

    Moscow is set to bring back the Cold War-era Piranha-class midget subs as part of a $350 million military spending spree, according to the U.K.’s Daily Express. An unnamed source told the newspaper that Russian leader Vladimir Putin is “breathing life into many old programmes and thinks subs are an effective way of getting what he wants militarily.”

    Relations between Russia and the West have sunk to post-Cold War lows after Moscow's annexation of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula and its support for a pro-Russian insurgency in eastern Ukraine.

    Amid these simmering tensions, Russian submarine activities are under close scrutiny, particularly in the Baltic. Last year the Swedish military launched a major hunt for a suspected underwater intruder in the Stockholm archipelago, its largest anti-sub operation since the end of the Cold War. Defense experts cited Russia as the likely culprit, although Moscow denied its involvement.

    The incident nonetheless prompted speculation that a Russian Piranha sub was involved.

    Described as virtually undetectable, the covert subs can lay mines and fire torpedoes. The diesel-electric submarines displace a mere 390 tons when submerged and can carry nine crew and six combat divers, according to the U.S. Naval Institute.

    The Piranha submarines could pose a “significant threat” to the U.K. if they enter British waters, according to the source interviewed by the Daily Express.

    However, Dmitry Gorenburg, an analyst at naval research specialist CNA, is skeptical about the prospect of Piranha subs resurfacing in Russia's military. "The two remaining subs of this class have been out of service for more than 15 years," he told FoxNews.com, in an e-mail, adding that it would be a major task to refurbish them. "The subs were originally withdrawn because they were seen as difficult to use and too large for their purpose," he added.

    Gorenburg believes that Russia is more likely to build new midget subs at some point in the future, rather then revamping old ones.

    Washington has been keeping a close eye on Moscow’s military moves. On Thursday President Obama's nominee to lead the military's Joint Chiefs of Staff warned that Russia poses the world's greatest threat to U.S. national security. "If you want to talk about a nation that could pose an existential threat to the United States, I'd have to point to Russia. And if you look at their behavior, it's nothing short of alarming," Marine Gen. Joseph Dunford told senators at his confirmation hearing.

    Other senior military figures have voiced their concerns about Russia. In April Adm. William Gortney, head of U.S. Northern Command, warned that Russia’s modern military is now “far more capable” than that of the Soviet Union, saying Moscow is “messaging” the United States that “they’re a global power.” Gortney disclosed to Congress in March that Russian heavy bombers flew more "out-of-area patrols" last year than in any year "since the Cold War." The following month, he affirmed that Russia’s “long-range” flights are rising – and occurring in places they haven’t before, like near Canada, Alaska and the English Channel.

    On July 4 two pairs of Russian bombers flew off the coast of California and Alaska -- forcing the Air Force to scramble fighter jets to intercept both flights, defense officials told Fox News.

    The Russian Embassy in Washington D.C. has not yet responded to a request for comment on this story from FoxNews.com.

    http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/07/11/russia-bringing-back-cold-war-mini-subs-report-says/



    Undated photo of the Soviet-era Project 865 Piranha-class submarine. (U.S. Naval Institute)

    New frogman sub

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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  Book. on Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:14 am

    Projek 865 Piranha class

    6 frog men. 400 mi



    The type was designed at the famous Malachite design bureau by Chief designer Chief Designer L.V.Chernopyatov in the 1970s and entered limited service in the late 1980s. Of classic Soviet double-hull construction, the inner hulls were built from Titanium. After protracted development the two units built were in and out of service during the 1990s. Victims of the defense cuts of the 1990s both hulls were decommissioned and scrapped.

    Specifications
    Length: 28.2 meters
    Beam: 4.74m meter
    Displacement: 218 tons surfaced, 287tns submerged
    Speed: Maximum 6.28 kts surfaced, 6.5kts submerged
    Operating depth: 180m (200m max)
    Endurance : 10 days, 603nm at cruising speed of 4kts surfaced, 260nm at 4kts submerged
    Armament: (inner tubes) 2 x 533mm (21") torpedo tubes for sub-size 400mm Latouche anti-ship torpedoes which swim out.
    SDVs: (outer tubes) 2 x Sirena-UM Swimmer Delivery Vehicles, or 6-8 'Proton' diver propulsion devices
    Crew: 3
    Special Forces: 6

    http://www.hisutton.com/Piranha%20Special%20Forces%20submarine.html
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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  GarryB on Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:08 pm



    The piranha family of coastal mini subs...



    Piranha-T (above) looks more modern than the older one (below):



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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  AlfaT8 on Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:57 pm

    GarryB wrote:

    The piranha family of coastal mini subs...



    Piranha-T (above) looks more modern than the older one (below):

    So is there a market for these subs or not?? scratch
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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  GarryB on Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:30 pm

    Not a huge market I suppose... AFAIK the Soviets had about 2 of the original Piranha class subs, while the other models are just models AFAIK because they are very specialised designs and the users are a quiet bunch who don't like getting their photo taken.

    I also suspect there are a large number of governments that would love them but can't afford the price.


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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  flamming_python on Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:14 am

    These sorts of subs might actually be right up Iran's, Cuba's, Venezuela's, Saudi Arabia's, Egypt's, India's, Indonesia's and China's alleys actually.

    Countries which either have strategic narrow waterways, gulfs or bays where a lot of damage can be done by naval commandos and special operations; or those which have large enough defence budgets to be able to afford such specialized vessels anyway.
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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  GarryB on Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:37 am

    Good point FP... and these mini subs don't have the main weakness of normal mini subs... they carry full sized torpedoes in full sized torpedo tubes... making them rather potent and not reliant on mines or sabotage frogmen... and they can also do that too... Twisted Evil


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    Re: Russian Navy Spetsnaz

    Post  George1 on Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:22 pm

    Some recent Naval Spetsnaz photos form MoD official FB page













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