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    Post  GarryB on Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:35 am

    Tu-204 has the payload.range and has mostly Russian systems making it a suitable platform for military roles.

    Any new aircraft will have a break even number of orders it will need to reduce costs and make full scale production viable. No plane will be competitive if you only make 2-3.

    A significant military order could make the difference and reduce costs to make it commercially viable.

    The important issue is that it is useful to the military and not just some hidden subsidy for the plane maker to make junk.

    Just looking at the figures and the types of aircraft this new aircraft can replace I think it is a very good idea for the Russian military to adopt it.

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    Post  Austin on Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:40 am

    ^^ Indeed Garry and considering they are no more developing the IL-38 and Tu-142 air frames any more and production has been closed long time back , it is just a matter of time the MOD will have to make a choice about new MPA platform.

    If they choose Tu-204 it will be export wise competitive against Boeing P-8I for future markets, eventually if Russia does not come with new platforms it will loose all export potential for MPA much like they lost the Indian MPA order.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:03 am

    The benefits are pretty clear to me... I guess it just comes down to funding.

    Here is an article I was reading recently on the subject:


    Russian Navy desperate for new planes

    Russian naval aviation is in critical condition, particularly the aviation units of the Black Sea Fleet, which may lose most of their fixed-wing aircraft and helicopters in the next five to six years.

    This problem demands a rapid solution. Otherwise the new warships ordered under the 2011-2020 state rearmament program will be useless.

    So far there are no official plans for equipping the navy with new fixed-wing aircraft and helicopters. There have been no public reports or official statements regarding the purchase of new aircraft for the navy citing specific figured or parameters, except for the announcement of the purchase of 26 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrum carrier-borne fighters.

    Off-the-record comments and articles by experts indicate that Soviet-era Ilyushin Il-38 May and Tupolev Tu-142 Bear F/J maritime patrol and anti-submarine warfare (ASW) aircraft are currently being modernized, and that the navy will receive new helicopters under a program to provide a thousand new helicopters for the Russian Armed Forces between 2011 and 2020.

    The navy has endured across-the-board cuts for the past 20 years, with naval aviation being the hardest hit. Long-range bomber units essentially no longer exist, and the number of combat-ready ASW planes has dwindled.

    The air wing of Russia's sole aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov, and helicopters deployed on cruisers, ASW ships and frigates also face major problems.

    The Black Sea Fleet is in a particularly bad state, as this was the only Soviet fleet that did not receive next-generation warships and aircraft in the 1980s before the collapse of the Soviet Union. As a result, its aviation units still operate four Beriev Be-12 Mail flying boats, which were decommissioned elsewhere long ago. The fleet operates rapidly aging Kamov Ka-27 Helix and Mil Mi-14 Haze, which are the main helicopter models in use in other fleets.

    Russia can replace these obsolete helicopters. Each year, Russia manufactures 100 helicopters for export and for its own needs. Considering the ambitious helicopter procurement plans under the above-mentioned federal rearmament program, the navy is entitled to its fair share.

    Replacing ASW aircraft is even more critical. Russia now has an estimated 40 long-range aircraft, including 26-28 Il-38s and 15 Tu-142s in use in the Pacific and Northern fleets, while the Baltic fleet lacks any long-range aircraft.

    Ground-based ASW planes have come a long way in the past few years. Owing to recent advances in airborne radio-electronic equipment, most industrialized countries have started converting these planes into multi-role maritime patrol aircraft.

    The U.S. Navy's upgraded Lockheed Martin P-3 Orion anti-submarine and surveillance aircraft, the peer of the Soviet Il-38 plane, is a classic example.

    Over the past 30 years, these planes have gained a number of new capabilies. They can attack ships with the help of new anti-ship missiles; they can function as AWACS-type early-warning aircraft; and they can patrol exclusive economic zones and territorial waters in search of smugglers and poachers.

    The Russian Navy also plans to overhaul its 40 ASW aircraft. But 40 aircraft are clearly not enough to police Russia's coast. Russia has the longest maritime border in the world, a problem compounded by the melting polar icecaps. Although the United States has 130 planes of this class, many U.S. analysts also believe their number should be increased.

    Russia cannot compete with the United States in terms of the number of naval aircraft, but it can certainly afford to make more of this class of aircraft, particularly the A-42, an advanced version of the Beriev A-40 Albatros/Mermaid flying boat, developed in the 1980s, which can fly patrol and rescue missions.

    The Russian Defense Ministry has already announced plans to purchase these aircraft. However, a 2008 plan to purchase four A-42 search-and-rescue planes, as well as their multi-role versions later on, never materialized.

    Lieutenant General Valery Uvarov, former commander of the Russian Navy's air-force and air-defense units, said the navy needs 15-20 new flying boats to meet the demand for search-and-rescue aircraft and to significantly enlarge the ASW plane fleet.

    It is impossible to replace all obsolete aircraft with A-42 flying boats because it would take about 20 years for the Taganrog plant that manufactures them, as well as the smaller Beriev Be-200 planes for the Emergencies Ministry, to fulfill the contract for at least 40 such aircraft.

    A good replacement would be the Tupolev Tu-204-P multi-mission maritime aircraft, which was developed on the basis of the Tu-204 medium-haul airliner. It resembles the state-of-the-art Boeing P-8 Poseidon, a converted B-737.

    This aircraft could be mass-produced if the Russian Navy were to order a sufficient quantity, unlike the A-42 flying boats. This would provide much-needed support to the Tu-204 program, which has essentially no commercial orders.

    It would be possible to assemble 50-60 such aircraft in the next ten years, along with a small number of A-42 search-and-rescue planes. This would alleviate the problem and form the foundation for the subsequent development of Russian naval aviation.

    The views expressed in this article are the author's and do not necessarily represent those of RIA Novosti.

    Source: http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20101021/161043453.html

    I would add that the A-42 with its ability to land on the sea surface is probably best suited to operations in the Black sea and Caspian sea (though obviously in the latter for search and rescue missions rather than anti sub missions) so there is little point in mass production in enormous numbers for that type.
    The smaller Be-200 would be better suited to fire bombing missions too.
    A replacement for the Il-38 May and the Tu-142 is needed and indeed for the various electronic intel variants of the Il-20 and Il-22 could also do with a replacement too. Using one aircraft to replace all these aircraft would be very useful to the Russian navy and would be very important components to support the expansion of the Russian Navy to a more global force that remains relatively small and compact though powerful and efficient.

    Something I have been thinking about would be the use of A-42s converted into people transports so that in certain circumstances it could be used to fly to a rendezvous point in the open ocean during a period of low sea conditions and it could be used to swap crews on Submarines on long missions. The modified Typhoon class (known in Russia as Akula class) would have enormous capacity for food stores and converting some of the swimming pools and some of the extra rooms (like the aviary) for food storage space should allow for very long deployments to the southern oceans and elsewhere. Depending upon the primary use of such vessels... whether military like a very large cruise missile carrier with potential for SAMs in vertical launch tubes as well as land attack and anti ship and anti sub missiles, or whether its purpose is for a special forces mothership that operates other submersible vessels and unmanned submersible vessels, or indeed it is used as a civilian research mothership with manned and unmanned vessels the idea of being able to fly in replacement crew or perhaps special replacement personnel when needed might be useful sometimes.

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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News

    Post  Austin on Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:38 am

    Indeed and as the rian article too says the same thing , its high time to standardise many of assets which are now taken care by different platform on to Tu-204 for standardisation,logistics and cost effectiveness.

    i just hope the military is listening

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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News

    Post  Austin on Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:50 am

    here is another latest win for Superjet

    Thai air company to buy 12 Russia planes Sukhoi Superjet-100

    This site is really interesting , click on this link and you can check out individually all the aspect of Superjet check the technology,flight deck cabin etc

    http://www.superjetinternational.com/ssj100/

    Superjet is the only 100 seater aircraft to use AFDX system after A-380 and 767


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    Post  Austin on Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:27 am

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    Post  KRON1 on Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:10 am

    The PD-14 gas turbine just achieved its first bench test. It is a long way from becoming a working jet engine. The Russians are looking at making the SaM146 the engine of choice for civil airliners.

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    Post  Austin on Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:35 am

    KRON1 wrote:The PD-14 gas turbine just achieved its first bench test. It is a long way from becoming a working jet engine. The Russians are looking at making the SaM146 the engine of choice for civil airliners.

    The PD-14 are next gen of Russian engine ( follow up to PS-90 series ) which will power next gen of civil aircraft like MS-21,MTA.

    The SaM146 are designed to power the SSJ100 and SSJ130

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    Post  Austin on Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:37 am

    Bad News for MS-21 , Airbus is coming up with A320NEO which will raise the competition bar for MS-21

    "The window of opportunity" for MS-21 closes
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:08 am

    United Engine Corporation for the first time in 20 years began to break even


    MOSCOW, December 1. (ITAR-TASS). For the first time in the past 20 years, Russian companies, members of the Association Engine Corporation (JDC), ceased to be unprofitable, said Tuesday at the International Conference "Aero Engines of XXI Century" Deputy Director General of JDC Alexander Willows.

    "The pace of output growth corporations ranging from 20 to 30 percent. Per year. Breakeven level of work with such a high rate suggests that the state can invest in this structure without the risk of a negative result," - says Willows.

    According to him, the main products of APC are now the engines for civil aircraft. The basis of their engines are a family of PS-90, in which "there is sufficient potential for development." In particular, the expert said engine PS-90A2, designed to equip the new passenger aircraft Tu-204SM.

    The most important events of the year JDC representative highlighted the establishment of the company, "Saturn" together with the French company Snecma "SaM146 engine for the aircraft Sukhoi Superjet-100, which in July for the first time in history has received European Certificate of engines on a typical design.

    The first production models SaM146 engine company has already delivered Sukhoi Civil Aircraft. " "The government made great efforts to organize its production, and we can say that this problem is solved", - stressed Alexander Willows.
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:17 am

    KRON1 wrote:The PD-14 gas turbine just achieved its first bench test. It is a long way from becoming a working jet engine. The Russians are looking at making the SaM146 the engine of choice for civil airliners.

    Sam146 is the only Russian airliner engine to achieve EASA certification. You have to have it to sell to Europe. It has been discussed putting it on all domestic made An-148. The engine is too small for aircraft like MS-21 or Il-96.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News

    Post  GarryB on Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:30 am

    Why doesn't Russia have something equivelent to EASA certification.

    They should carefully formulate a certificate to make it hard for western airliners to operate in Russia.

    Manditory cloak bay areas for passengers to put coats.

    APUs to operate in austere airfields etc etc.

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    Post  Austin on Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:50 am

    Russians do have their own certification but EASA certification would ensure wider accessibility to global market to export their product and competitive prices.

    Russian aviation market is not as large as European,US or Asian market and since Russians are the exporter they need to ensure complaince with the certification process if they have to stand a chance for export

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    Post  Austin on Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:16 pm

    Tu-154 plane crash lands , 2 dead 83 injured



    "According to the latest information, 83 people were sent to hospitals after the Tu-154 plane accident," a spokesperson for the Health Ministry said.

    The aircraft departed for the southern Russian city of Makhachkala from Moscow's Vnukovo airport at 2.07 pm Moscow Time (11.07 GMT). Several minutes after the take-off all three engines of the plane had failed and the jet made an emergency landing at Moscow's Domodedovo Airport.

    Russia's Federal Air Transport Agency, Rosaviatsia, said that along with the engines, Tu-154 also had its power sources and navigation equipment failed.

    So with all 3 engine failure they managed to glide the jet ? Shocked

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    Post  Austin on Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:18 pm

    From "International Conference "Aero Engines of the 21 st century" in Moscow gives some insight on 5th and 6th gen engine requirement and technologies link

    According to the head of CIAM, given the high competition, continuous improvement of aircraft engines, also taking into account the overall development of science and technology, there are very bold decisions for the coming years, new demands are put forward to a promising engines. In particular, the requirements on noise in 2015 will be reduced by 32% with respect to the requirements of Annex 16, Chapter 4 of ICAO in 2020 - by 42% in 2025 - up 71%. Regarding fuel consumption - engines must consumes less fuel: up to 33% in 2015, up to 50% in 2020 and up to 70% in 2025

    When creating engines 4-th generation of the total funding for the project on advanced areas of technological advance (NPOV) accounted for about 14-15%% - this was the methodology in the 70's and 80's. When you create the fifth-generation engine for about 60% of the total funding went to advanced research. "Our forecast for the sixth-generation engines - more than 70%

    According to him, when considering solutions to reduce fuel consumption discusses various options for improving the parameters of the cycle - higher efficiency units, the growth of the degree of bypass to 20, the use of open-rotor, bringing the total degree of pressure increase to over 50, as well as increasing the aerodynamic and weight to improve himself flying apparatus - the aerodynamic quality instead of 17 will increase to 24."For those professionals who deal with the prospect, search and research, these data should be as a reference", - stressed Skibin.
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    Post  Austin on Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:38 pm

    Italy to buy 'large numbers' of Russia's Superjet airliners - Putin

    "This is our first civil aircraft... which corresponds with the most recent civil aviation requirements, and our Italian partners are now ready to buy them in quite large numbers," Putin said during a United Russia party congress in the Far Eastern city of Khabarovsk.

    Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, accompanied by Putin and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, inspected a Superjet aircraft in Sochi last Friday. The plane arrived in the southern Russian city on a test flight from northern Siberia's Yakutsk.

    The Superjet 100 is a family of medium-haul passenger aircraft developed by Sukhoi in cooperation with U.S. and European aviation corporations, including Boeing, Snecma, Thales, Messier Dowty, Liebherr Aerospace and Honeywell.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:50 am

    RIP to those two that died in that air crash.

    The way the aircraft broke up I thought more would have died.

    Regarding the Italian purchase of Russian aircraft, perhaps this is a benefit of Russian interest in Italian vehicles?

    Even if it is not it is a good healthy thing.

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    Post  Austin on Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:09 am

    GarryB wrote:RIP to those two that died in that air crash.

    The way the aircraft broke up I thought more would have died.

    Indeed the aircraft was just running in single engine or no engine at all thats like just gliding , the pilot did a very good job of landing the aircraft , the pilot himself was seriously injured but survived.

    Looking at the previous crashes of Tu-204 almost crashed into the pine tree and broke up but all 6 crews were safe and the current crash where most people are safe it just makes me believe that the Russian aircraft are structurally strong or designed to take the crash impact better then most western aircraft.


    Regarding the Italian purchase of Russian aircraft, perhaps this is a benefit of Russian interest in Italian vehicles?

    Even if it is not it is a good healthy thing.

    Not really , SuperJet International is a joint venture between Italian Alenia Aeronautica with 51% stake and Russian Sukhoi Holding with 49% , so any sales that superjet does benefits Italy.

    AlItalia is right now at final stages of selecting 20 odd 100 seater for which Superjet is a strong contender.

    So Iveco and Superjet deal are not related though Italy and Russia are nice playing Tango Very Happy

    Some info on Superjet Logistics logistics
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    Tu-214 upset the president - subquality

    According to RBC daily, the Attorney General's Office began checking the KLA and the Kazan aviation plant (CAPO), a manufacturer of Tu-214, for product quality and timing of its production. Reason for the inspection came after the transfer in October of this year, Tu-214PU managing the affairs of the president: during its operation have been identified technical problems.

    Until recently, the timing of the CAPO complained only private customers. For example, the plant still can not execute a contract concluded in 1999 with the airline Transaero. To date, the carrier has received only three of the five ordered Tu-214, although Transaero interested in continuing the shipments. As previously said Alexei Fyodorov, UAC president, because of the high cost of the platform Tu-214, the company decided to no longer build commercial aircraft at the base, leaving only spetsmodifikatsii, one of which became the Tu-214PU.

    At one of these Tu-214PU, put into operation special summer squad (SLO), "Russia" in October this year, President Dmitry Medvedev has made its first flight. The aircraft is based on long-haul passenger Tu-214, but differs significantly from the production model. It has a special technique, but the interior is made to the original design. However, as the source of RBC daily, after the first flight on the aircraft revealed a minor problem in several systems, including the entertainment system.

    In the KLA yesterday declined comment.

    Traditionally, vendors are taking the time to refine the aircraft, taking into account the claims of the customer, but CAPO could no longer delay the delivery side of the Arctic Ocean. According to the sources of RBC daily, long-range Il-96, which now flies the president, at the end of this year will pass on the "fifth form of service: long-term inspection and maintenance. At the same time, with President Dmitry Medvedev appointed a lot of trips planned that the new Tu-214 will be the replacement of IL-96.

    In addition to issues of timing and quality of work, according to a source of RBC daily, close to the KLA, the prosecutor's office wondering why the contract with the administration of the president is not the developer of aircraft - Tupolev Design Bureau, and the factory cap. Board number 1 - a unique product that requires a lot of developments and solutions, the plant alone above it does not work.

    Sergei Starikov

    Possible inspection CAPO does not mean that its fleet of the first persons abandon Tu-214. In late November the administration of the president once again decided to buy Tu-214. The corresponding order is placed online procurement. According to the information value of the order is not more than 1.33 billion rubles.

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    Post  Austin on Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:40 pm

    Aircraft engine developed by PD-14 will exceed all indicators being introduced into service SaM146

    Developed in Russia, the engine 5-th generation of civil aviation DD-14 will all parameters exceed SaM146 joint Russian-French production, which is equipped with a plane Superjet-100. This was announced today during a video conference at the ITAR-Tass reporters managing director and chief designer of the Permian Aviadvigatel Alexander Inozemtsev.

    "PD-14 - a huge step forward in the theory, techniques, technologies, compared with SaM146", - said Inozemtsev. According to him, the new engine will surpass the previous generation of product reliability, resource, have a lower cost to operate, safer from the standpoint of ecology.

    A major difference lies in the fact that the PD-14 is created on the basis of uniform gas generator (GG) - a key element of the engine."The main idea is to develop a unified gas generator in a class of 7-20 tons of traction, on the basis of which you can create the appropriate technology for use in the air, on land, on water - airplanes, helicopters, gas turbines," - said Inozemtsev.
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:15 pm

    Austin wrote:Aircraft engine developed by PD-14 will exceed all indicators being introduced into service SaM146

    Of course it will. They are two different classes of engines. Whether PD-14 can attain EASA certification is another matter. SaM146 already has it.

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    Post  Austin on Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:52 am

    Confirming news , Sukhoi is building 130 - 145 seater Superjet ( Superjet NG ) as a follow on to 100 Superjet. It will have all composite wing and a new engine.

    via Air International

    Superjet-NG Part-1
    Superjet-NG Part-2


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    Post  Austin on Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:25 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:Of course it will. They are two different classes of engines. Whether PD-14 can attain EASA certification is another matter. SaM146 already has it.

    From what I have been reading on PD-14 , this engine will revolutionise the civil engine industry for Russia and will bring it on par with all the western manufacturer of modern engine like P&W ,RR , CFM etc.

    The MS-21 is to be powered by PW1400G Geared Turbo Fan engine and PD-14 is offered as an alternative to P&W with its capability equal to PW in all parameters and the Russian PD-14 will cost 15 % less then PW1400G.

    Its not a trivial task to match PW1400G engine and the fact that PD-14 is being offered as alternative to PW engine for civil airline user of MS-21 speaks for itself.

    Recently the designer of PD-14 engine mentioned that the total development cost of PD-14 will be $2.2 billion.

    PD-14 in various version will power all future civil and military aircraft of Russia namely MS-21 ,MTA , Superjet-NG and perhaps the new ones under development.

    ofcourse it will be a good replacement for PS-90 variants.

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    Post  Austin on Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:23 am

    Superjet lost an all important Alitalia deal for 20 aircraft against ERJ-190 group of Brazilian Embraer,an estimated deal worth $500 million.

    This is a big setback to Superjet , considering Italy was a partner and was favoured to win.

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    Post  Austin on Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:31 am

    Embraer Wins Alitalia Bidding

    Alitalia has opted to buy Embraer regional jets in the competition to modernize and consolidate the airline’s RJ fleet, industry officials say.

    The airline’s board of directors has authorized management to sign a preliminary agreement covering the lease of a combination of 14 Embraer 170 and 190 regional jets.

    Alitalia already operates six 170s, which first entered the fleet in 2004 and appears to have bolstered the aircraft maker’s position in competition over Bombardier and Sukhoi since the airline has a medium-term target to grow its fleet to 20 aircraft. Later expansion to 27 units is possible.

    The ten Bombardier CRJ900s also currently in service at the carrier are to be gradually retired as the new E-Jets arrive.

    According to industrial sources, the airline’s management rated the Embraer proposal as the best one, with the Sukhoi Superjet 100 coming second. The Russian bid came with aggressive financial terms to secure Alitalia as the first big-name European costumer. But management shied away in part because the Superjet 100 remains to be certified; Embraer also benefitted from the positive experience the airline has had with the 170s now in service. Bombardier, offering the CRJ900NG/1000, came last.

    Aitalia CEO Rocco Sabelli says the airline was leaning toward the Sukhoi Superjet 100, but that the repeated delays to the aircraft’s certification where an issue. “We delayed our choice by 6-12 months waiting for the Superjet and we considered the involvement in the program of an Italian company [Alenia Aeronauita] but we were still not sure about the European certification date and we were also concerned about the prospect of being, in effect, the western launch customer for the type,” he says.

    The Embraer choice also provides commonality between Alitalia and SkyTeam partner and major Alitalia shareholder Air France.

    Air France Industries will provide maintenance of the regional jet.

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