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    George1

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    Re: NATO/US Military Build up in Eastern Europe-Russian borders

    Post  George1 on Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:54 pm

    The NATO multinational force grouping in Poland and the Baltics



    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2829113.html
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    Post  HUNTER VZLA on Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:57 pm

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:41 pm

    George1 wrote:The NATO multinational force grouping in Poland and the Baltics



    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2829113.html


    This map is very incomplete for Poland as there is now a U.S. Army armored brigade stationed at Drawsko Pomorskie and Zagan in the western Poland since January of 2017, and there is some USAF unit(s) stationed at the Lask Air Base in central Poland since 2012.

    Have no idea why these units have not been included.

    Perhaps because they are not "multi-national"?
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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:49 pm



    The U.S. military presence in Poland is actually even greater than what I mentioned above.


    Map of the U.S. and NATO Military Presence in Poland.


    http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/kraj/wojska-nato-i-usa-w-polsce-infografika/w3rtmlr


    It is in Polish, but you might still understand some of it.
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    Re: NATO/US Military Build up in Eastern Europe-Russian borders

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:05 pm

    Gear still pouring into Rotterdam from the US, likely on its way to the east. It certainly won't stay in the Low Countries.



    https://already-happened.com/2017/10/26/us-continues-to-deploy-military-equipment-into-europe-including-apache-black-hawk-chinook-helicopters/
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    Re: NATO/US Military Build up in Eastern Europe-Russian borders

    Post  George1 on Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:19 am

    NATO Launches Massive, 20,000-Strong Exercise in Eastern Europe Citing 'Russian Threat'


    Meanwhile the German daily Die Welt reports that NATO is preparing to deploy a 30,000-strong reserve force, plus hundreds of warplanes and vessels for quick deployment ostensibly on fears of Russia invasion

    A massive U.S.-led military war drill with more than 18,000 soldiers from 19 NATO member states, has begun across Poland and the three Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania.

    The U.S. Army Europe said Monday that Saber Strike 18 exercise has commenced, and "brings full-scale battle simulations for the service members involved to enhance their real-world military occupations and deployment logistics strategies.

    The war drill will take place in the Baltic states from June 03-15 as “a demonstration of the commitment and solidarity of the Alliance" at a time when Russia’s military is "increasingly threatening NATO members."



    https://russia-insider.com/en/politics/nato-launches-massive-20000-strong-exercise-eastern-europe-citing-russian-threat/ri23714
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    Post  Airbornewolf on Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:10 am

    George1 wrote:

    NATO Launches Massive, 20,000-Strong Exercise in Eastern Europe Citing 'Russian Threat'



    Meanwhile the German daily Die Welt reports that NATO is preparing to deploy a 30,000-strong reserve force, plus hundreds of warplanes and vessels for quick deployment ostensibly on fears of Russia invasion

    A massive U.S.-led military war drill with more than 18,000 soldiers from 19 NATO member states, has begun across Poland and the three Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania.

    The U.S. Army Europe said Monday that Saber Strike 18 exercise has commenced, and "brings full-scale battle simulations for the service members involved to enhance their real-world military occupations and deployment logistics strategies.

    The war drill will take place in the Baltic states from June 03-15 as “a demonstration of the commitment and solidarity of the Alliance" at a time when Russia’s military is "increasingly threatening NATO members."



    https://russia-insider.com/en/politics/nato-launches-massive-20000-strong-exercise-eastern-europe-citing-russian-threat/ri23714

    From what i heard the only war the NATO forces where fighting where with the local population and going-out establishments. Americans urinating on local monuments, throwing fights. Even some Dutch troops where send home after "disturbances" and "violating the no-drink protocol" and where discharged from service.

    These exercises are getting rediculous shows of pure window dressing for the media. Rarely anything works as it should and logistical structure behind the exercise almost does not excist. if something gets broken and they require spare parts, first thing they get told if is "oh well, just drag it down to the train depot and it will be shipped back when the exercise is over".

    American Hardware is not doing any better, they just painted the vehicles with fresh paint so it looks good after it came back from other warzones. Meanwhile it crews rightfully so complain that most vehicles themselves need some serious overhaul to get them suitable for combat. ranging from electical failures, mechanical wear and tear and likely faults in armor after enduring expose to the elements for long periods of time and weapon impacts during deployments.

    Every time i read the headlines here in the West of "NATO exercise to show Russia our Teeth" and hearing what really the sorry state is of the forces participating in them. i just shake my head and hope the Russians know and get a good laugh out of it.
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    Re: NATO/US Military Build up in Eastern Europe-Russian borders

    Post  TheArmenian on Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:57 pm

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    Post  andalusia on Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:31 pm

    I was watching a show called GPS on CNN and it was saying that Eastern European countries like Poland, Romania and a few Baltic State countries I think either Estonia or Lithuania are increasing their military budget and doing military exercises in response to Russia. This program cited that Russia doing military exercises near the border and that such exercises always followed a land grab such as in Georgia and Ukraine. I want to know is this propaganda and what is the truth. It painted Russia and Putin in a negative light and that the US should support these countries.
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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:07 pm






    In Poland there is no money for the disabled and handicap people and their families, or for the homeless, but there is always money for Ukrainians and the U.S. military (recently the Polish government actually offered to pay for stationing of the U.S. troops in Poland, by comparison in the much richer  U.K., Italy, Germany, and other countries in Europe it is the U.S. military that pays a rent for using the bases in these countries).


    The Polish military is rabble, like the whole country, you need connections to join it, there is no longer conscription. It is not what you know, but who you know. Lots of physically strong people get rejected, but many weaklings are accepted because they have connections. Similar with the Polish Police.


    Poland has an extremely low civilian gun ownership rate, one of the lowest in the world. Many people in Poland do not like that, they would like to legally obtain guns, but the government is not doing anything about it. If someone decides to invade Poland, Poles will have nothing to defend themselves with. Also, the German-Ukrainian mafia "Civic Platform" government sold out at very low prices all the "untouchable" reserves of armaments during 2010-2015.


    They tried to create a "Territorial Defence" recently, but apparently its creation is currently suspended.


    So this sorts of sums up Poland.

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