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    Re: NATO/US Military Build up in Eastern Europe-Russian borders

    Post  Militarov on Tue May 31, 2016 6:31 pm



    Czech Republic and NATO convoy. Sadly only few guys

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    Post  AlfaT8 on Tue May 31, 2016 8:35 pm

    Romanian President Backs Decision to Host NATO Missile Defense System

    "The latest Russian statements concerning the anti-missile system are wrong in their essence, the system has nothing to do with Russia. They cannot intimidate us. Unfounded threats yet again confirm that our approach toward strengthening NATO security, considering Russia's position in the Black Sea, is the right one," Iohannis said as quoted by the Mediafax outlet.

    http://sputniknews.com/politics/20160531/1040558257/romania-nato-missiles.html

    Oxy"moron" much. Rolling Eyes

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    Post  max steel on Tue May 31, 2016 9:31 pm

    Belgium shows off Russian plane intercepts



    The Russian planes intercepted by the Belgians included a Su-27 Flanker, a Tu-134AK, an Il-76, an An-72 and an An-12PPS.

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    Post  JohninMK on Tue May 31, 2016 9:33 pm

    max steel wrote:Belgium shows off Russian plane intercepts



    The Russian planes intercepted by the Belgians included a Su-27 Flanker, a Tu-134AK, an Il-76, an An-72 and an An-12PPS.
    Photos already in the photo thread thumbsup

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    Post  max steel on Tue May 31, 2016 9:56 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Photos already in the photo thread thumbsup

    What thread?

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    Post  JohninMK on Tue May 31, 2016 10:06 pm

    max steel wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    Photos already in the photo thread thumbsup

    What thread?
    Post 196

    http://www.russiadefence.net/t5140p175-russian-military-photos-and-videos-4

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    Post  JohninMK on Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:34 am

    One of the more sobering articles I have read for a while. These are the first paragraphs and part of the last, I respectfully suggest you all read the whole thing. This is not good, I somehow doubt Putin is crying wolf this time.

    First there was the red-line announcement. On Friday in Athens there was the cross-hairs statement. By the month of October, the month before the US presidential election, there will be the trigger point.

    The US and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) allies are going to war with Russia, accelerating the inevitability that Russia will strike in self-defence. This is what the first and second statements by President Vladimir Putin warn. There will be no statement of warning when the trigger point arrives.

    At his press conference in Athens on Friday, Putin warned that the installation of an Aegis anti-missile base in Romania, operational this month, and the rush to do the same in Poland, are hostile acts, just short of casus belli — cause of war.

    To make this clear, Putin used a vivid phrase — быть под прицелом. It refers to gunsights or cross-hairs for targeting army artillery, airforce cannon, or naval torpedoes.

    Putin was translated by Reuters as saying: “If yesterday in those areas of Romania people simply did not know what it means to be in the cross-hairs, then today we will be forced to carry out certain measures to ensure our security,’ Putin told a joint news conference in Athens with Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras. ‘It will be the same case with Poland,’ he said.” Read the Reuters report in full.

    .........................................................................

    In Anglo-American policymaking the syndrome is called Going Native. Putin himself has suffered from the syndrome; his enemies, not his friends, have cured him.


    http://johnhelmer.net/?p=15751

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    Re: NATO/US Military Build up in Eastern Europe-Russian borders

    Post  GarryB on Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:41 am

    I don't think the result of AEGIS systems all over europe will be war.

    I rather suspect it will be either the withdrawal from the INF treaty or the new Start treaty or both rapidly followed by mass production of land based cruise missiles and IRBMs to be stationed in western Russia.


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    Post  higurashihougi on Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:27 pm

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    http://americanews.ru/en/h54/28045.html

    Poland intends to place within its borders only one battalion of NATO, however, these forces should be enough to “deter Russian aggression,” Defence Minister Antony Macherevich said in an interview with Defense News.

    http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/international/europe/2016/05/31/polish-official-battalion-enough-deter-russia/85207426/

    As it gears up to host a major NATO meeting in July, Poland is keeping its request relatively low — roughly a battalion’s worth of rotational troops inside its borders, which the country’s defense minister says will be enough to deter Russian aggression.

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    Re: NATO/US Military Build up in Eastern Europe-Russian borders

    Post  Militarov on Wed Jun 08, 2016 4:23 pm



    "Exercise Anakonda 2016 (AN16) is one of U.S. Army Europe’s premier multinational training events. AN16 is a Polish national exercise that seeks to train, exercise and integrate Polish national command and force structures into an allied, joint, multinational environment.

    This exercise further supports assurance and deterrence measures by demonstrating allied defense capabilities to deploy, mass and sustain combat power.

    This exercise will involve more than 31,000 participants from 24 nations, including Albania, Bulgaria, Canada, Croatia, Czech Republic, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Turkey, the United Kingdom and the United States."

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    Post  KiloGolf on Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:46 pm

    "Hunter 2016" exercise patch in Lithuania. Laughing


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    Post  OminousSpudd on Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:59 pm

    How do the personnel go about reconciling what they are doing? Do they have US officers glaring over their shoulders reminding them how their st*onk NATO alliance is the only thing that is stopping teh Russian Aggression? Or do they just not talk about the elephant in the room at all?

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    Post  George1 on Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:21 am

    For the first time US has deployed HIMARS rocket system to Estonia

    Two US M124 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS) were delivered to Estonia on Tuesday to participate in the ongoing Saber Strike military drills, the Estonian Defense Forces said.

    A C-17 Globemaster III from the 164th Airlift Wing, Tennessee Air National Guard, arrived at Tallinn Airport, Estonia, June 14, 2016. The C-17 Globemaster III brought High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) vehicles and Soldiers from B Battery, 1-181st Field Artillery, Tennessee Army National Guard to participate in exercise Saber Strike 16.

    Saber Strike is a long-standing U.S. Army Europe-led cooperative training exercise designed to improve joint interoperability through a range of missions that prepare the 14 participating nations to support multinational contingency operations.

    The M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) is a U.S. light multiple rocket launcher mounted on a standard Army Medium Tactical Vehicle (MTV) truck frame. The HIMARS carries six rockets or one MGM-140 ATACMS missile on the U.S. Army’s new Family of Medium Tactical Vehicles (FMTV) five-ton truck, and can launch the entire Multiple Launch Rocket System Family of Munitions (MFOM). HIMARS is interchangeable with the MLRS M270A1, carrying half the rocket load.

    http://defence-blog.com/news/for-the-first-time-us-deploys-himars-rocket-system-to-estonia.html


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    Post  Erk on Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:54 am

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8VP0vb9mP0

    Professor Stephen Cohen talks about the NATO buildup


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    Post  George1 on Sun Jun 19, 2016 5:01 pm

    Bulgaria Rejects NATO Fleet in the Black Sea, Romania Hurriedly Backs Off

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/world/20160619/1041590077/bulgaria-romania-nato-fleet.html#ixzz4C2OzrIqD


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    Post  KiloGolf on Sun Jun 19, 2016 6:33 pm

    OminousSpudd wrote:How do the personnel go about reconciling what they are doing? Do they have US officers glaring over their shoulders reminding them how their st*onk NATO alliance is the only thing that is stopping teh Russian Aggression? Or do they just not talk about the elephant in the room at all?

    They are jealous they have no MBTs of their own whatsoever.
    NATO had/has no business in the Baltics, they are more of a burden and food for our Altanticist hawks.

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    Post  KiloGolf on Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:21 am

    Sabre Strike



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    Post  higurashihougi on Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:29 am

    A bit old news. NATO activities in Eastern Europe were repeatedly blasted by German political figure.

    https://www.rt.com/news/347258-steinmeier-nato-drills-warmongering/

    ‘Saber-rattling & warmongering’: German FM blasts NATO military drills in Eastern Europe

    https://www.rt.com/news/347317-schroeder-russia-germany-nato-relations/

    Russia won’t be invading NATO countries, Germany shouldn’t help start a new arms race – Schroeder

    It is unknown whether Germany will do anything stronger than pure words, but it is a sign that NATO's prestige (if any) and influence are in a sharp decline.

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:43 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:





    Deranged claims:

    They claim that the military exercise was "Polish-led" but out of 31 000 troops that participated 14 000 were American; besides these there were many other troops from many other countries.

    What is a German flag doing on that assembled bridge? The last time there were German flags flying in Poland by German troops was during the Second World War.


    And for the stupid poster above, no Poland does not "eye Galicia."

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    Post  KiloGolf on Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:23 pm

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:They claim that the military exercise was "Polish-led" but out of 31 000 troops that participated 14 000 were American

    The exercise is their largest in Poland, it's Polish. They just decided this year to invite NATO allies.
    US and Polish participation was roughly the same (14k vs 12k).


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    Post  KiloGolf on Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:37 pm

    Some ''Anakonda 16'' pics


















































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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:41 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    Odin of Ossetia wrote:They claim that the military exercise was "Polish-led" but out of 31 000 troops that participated 14 000 were American

    The exercise is their largest in Poland, it's Polish. They just decided this year to invite NATO allies.
    US and Polish participation was roughly the same (14k vs 12k).



    The U.S. is using Poland as a military training ground, and you insinuate that Poland runs the whole show.


    That is very misleading.

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    Post  KiloGolf on Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:14 pm

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:
    Odin of Ossetia wrote:They claim that the military exercise was "Polish-led" but out of 31 000 troops that participated 14 000 were American

    The exercise is their largest in Poland, it's Polish. They just decided this year to invite NATO allies.
    US and Polish participation was roughly the same (14k vs 12k).



    The U.S. is using Poland as a military training ground, and you insinuate that Poland runs the whole show.


    That is very misleading.

    The Baltics are most definitely a training and more importantly a staging ground for NATO. They have no military.
    But Poland is a capable military power of its own, across the board. I wouldn't call them training ground, rather a US partner.

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