PLA Air Force General News Thread:

Y-20 large transport plane to spawn several variants: chief designer
Following in the Il-76 footsteps!

On the latest upgrade of the H-6(N)...to be armed with a anti-ship ballistic missile as it's primary weapon

Even if the images posted yesterday were for the first time showing the underside of the latest H-6N bomber, these now clearly show not only the deleted bomb bay but also the semiconformal attachment for the new ballistic anti-ship missile.





https://twitter.com/RupprechtDeino/status/1176099459182338050

What it might look like armed

This BM would outrange the Kinzhal! Bad news for the USN, JMSDF, RN, & the Indian Navy!

There's plenty of room to add a large booster stage to Kinzhal. Even if the MiG-31 couldn't launch that model (because of additional weight) other platforms like the Bears, Backfires, and Blackjacks could. There's also the ASAT system:



Capable of launching it's payload in to orbit giving it unlimited range. Adding additional retro rockets and it becomes a FOBS bomb, with a 160kg warhead which is large enough to house a large tactical thermonuclear warhead.

Cyberspec wrote:

What it might look like armed

Certainly not the second, it is an icbm, it will never take off, they will never be able to put it under the bomber and it is right under the gears.

it is an icbm

no, its S/IRBM. For an ICBM, a C-5/An-124 is needed.

According to the Americans, the missile might have a range of up to 3000km range and they've designated it CH-AS-X-13. It's a 2 stage rocket, believed to be based on the DF-21

Something from 2018
https://thediplomat.com/2018/04/revealed-chinas-nuclear-capable-air-launched-ballistic-missile/

and a new article on the the Drive
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29975/new-photos-point-to-chinese-bomber-being-able-to-carry-huge-anti-ship-ballistic-missiles

That is really optimistic... that weapon is enormous and full of fuel would be enormously heavy... two D-30 engines wouldn't get it off the ground even if the undercarriage still could reach the ground...

no, its S/IRBM. For an ICBM, a C-5/An-124 is needed.

The artists impression shown makes it look like a seriously big ICBM rather than an IRBM or SLBM... it is enormous.

According to the Americans, the missile might have a range of up to 3000km rang...

Sounds like a 750 billion per year budget is not enough and they need to waste more taxpayers money... it is so unfair that those evil chinese and evil russians spend so much on defence.... how can poor merica compete... without needing to spend much much more than they do now.

Tsavo Lion wrote:

it is an icbm

no, its S/IRBM. For an ICBM, a C-5/An-124 is needed.

It's impossible to launch an ICBM from a plane.

https://theaviationist.com/2015/05/10/c-5-air-launch-icbm-missile/

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/c5-galaxy-dover-museum-minuteman-missile/index.html

https://theaviationist.com/2017/07/24/watch-a-usaf-c-17-air-launch-an-intermediate-range-ballistic-missile-target-over-the-pacific-ocean-during-a-thaad-test/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air-launched_ballistic_missile

You couldn't launch a conventional liquid fuelled ICBM from airplane like that... it would snap like a twig and shower fuel over a very wide area.

There are some custom designed rockets designed to be released in flight however... I remember a mockup of a Tu-160 with a long narrow missile mounted between the engine pods, and I have read about plans to carry missiles in large cargo planes and roll them out the rear... but the former should be relatively straight forward... climb up as high as you can in a relatively low speed cruise and then release the rocket and then fire up the rocket motors... not sure whether a parachute attached to the nose could be used to slow it down and get it upright before the rocket motor is fired, or whether you could release it in a 30 degree climb and then have the aircraft turn away and the rocket motor start and thrust vectoring to change the angle of climb from 30 degrees to something like 70 or 80 degrees depending on where the target it...

With it rolling out the back of a cargo plane the bending forces on its structure would be enormous so it might need to be supported in a structure that goes out the back with the missile and then falls away allowing the missile to fire its engines...

The Burlak rocket was designed to be air launched and examples like this:

They could also modify some J-20s to carry something similar to Kinzhal.
If they get to build a few An-225s, those could launch even bigger BMs- that would keep USN & allied CSGs East of Guam & South of Diego Garcia.

They could develop the air equivalent of Sea Launch... an An-225 for instance with a large winged rocket with a low power rocket on top to overcome drag and move the rocket forward and away from the aircraft before its main engine lights up and the extra rocket and wings fall away and it accelerates up to space...


It could certainly be done... there is no doubt about it, but the design with the Tu-16 above is not a good example.

For the first time over the Tiananmen Square flew the latest multi-purpose helicopter Z-20




Z-8B




Z-19

The main airborne part of the parade was opened by the KJ-2000 long-range radar detection and control aircraft (AWACS) accompanied by J-10 fighters of the PLA "August 1" aerobatic group.






Behind them flew AWACS KJ-500, accompanied by fighters J-11B of the PLA Air Force.






Aircraft AWACS KJ-200, accompanied by fighters J-11B PLA Air Force.

Shaanxi Y-8/9 variants

Y-8T. Air command post. Accompanied by fighter aircraft J-11B PLA Air Force.




Aircraft AWACS KJ-500H. PLA Air Force




Y-8FQ Cub/GX-6. Maritime patrol aircraft. PLAN naval aviation






KJ-200H AWACS. PLAN naval aviation



Y-9JB (GX-8 ). Radio intelligence aircraft, PLAN naval aviation




Y-8JB ELINT and Y-8CB electronic warfare. PLAN naval aviation





Y-8G. Electronic warfare aircraft, Naval Aviation PLAN




Y-9 Military Transport Aircraft. PLA Air Force





Y-9G/GX-11. Electronic warfare variant. PLA Air Force






Y-9XZ/GX-10. Psychological warfare variant. PLA Air Force




Ambulance aircraft based on military transport Y-9

Y-20 Strategic military transport aircraft. PLA Air Force

Shenyang J-16 fighters




J-20, J-16 and J-10C at the airport



Combat training aircraft JL-10. For them, this was the first appearance in the parades.



Training aircraft JL-9




Completed the parade combat training aircraft JL-8

Rob Lee
@RALee85
At Valdai today, Putin said that Russia is helping China build a ballistic missile early warning system, which is quite significant. Ballistic missile tech and BMD were areas where Russia previously refused to cooperate with China

https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/6961397/amp?__twitter_impression=true


Very bad news for US (and probably for Russia too). The good point is that they will know how it works.

The US will hate this because they like the idea that they can attack anyone they like when they like and will achieve significant advantage from a surprise attack.

Russia sharing defence technology that will help China defend itself better from a US attack is a good thing for China and therefore bad for the US, which makes it good for Russia too.

Better relations between China and Russia are good for Russia and good for China and good for the rest of the world... except the west.

Inexplicable exhibit. It is reported that this is a model of the composite structure of the fuselage of a high-speed aircraft of the future vertical take-off, developed for the needs of the PLA army aviation.

China Helicopter Exposition 2019 China International Helicopter Exhibition

On October 10, 2019, the China Helicopter Exposition 2019 international helicopter exhibition opens in Tianjin, China. The exhibition has been held since 2011 every two years with the support of the Government of China. In 2019, 450 companies from more than 20 countries of the world will take part in the exhibition, on an area of ​​30,000 sq.m. More than 100 exhibits and full-scale models of helicopter equipment will be presented, the exhibition will be visited by 30,000 interested specialists and buyers. The exhibition will include a series of conferences, workshops, B2B meetings and negotiations. Helicopter demonstration flights will also take place.



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